**Calling out Steve Miller & RD Audio**
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New member Username: AlzeroPost Number: 1 Registered: Oct-09 | Steve, we've already seen quite a bit from you about the fact that you have stayed with the same buildhouse as your v1 amps and that the quality has actually increased overall - readers, please reference Steve's post on CA.com for this information. Lies #1 and #2 right there. You're not with Zenon anymore. You decreased cost and went with a lower quality buildhouse in China. For Christ's sake, your boxes say Made in China on them. Puhhhlease? I'm not going to be the total @$$hole and give up the buildhouse you're working with now. BUT COULD YOU STOP LYING TO US ALREADY?!? On October 10th you launched your presale for the 2200v2's over on CACO. See: http://www.caraudioclassifieds.org/forum/showthread.php?t=19489 In your presale post, you claim your amps do over TWO THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED WATTS AT 14.4 - spelled out for emphasis. Folks, thats 2800+ w RMS at 1 ohm a 14.4v that is being claimed. Steve, your own freaking buildhouse even states the following: RMS @ 1 Ohm(<1% DISTORTION) 2300W Here's where you're going to claim I'm full of crap. So let's just get down to it shall we? I'm not. I know exactly where your amp is coming from, who is building it, etc. It's a stock design - you didn't even purchase your own heatsink tooling. Just used what they had - perfectly fine. But stated for the purpose of...I know what I'm talking about. The following is what your buildhouse states. Of all parties involved, they have every reason to overstate their claims in an attempt to improve their sales. They still state the following though: RMS @ 1 Ohm(<1% DISTORTION) 2300W RMS @ 2 Ohm(<1% DISTORTION) 1600W RMS @ 4 Ohm(<1% DISTORTION) 904W Frequency Response 15Hz~270Hz S/N Ratio >80dB THD <0.15% Input Level 0.2-6V LPF 35Hz~270Hz SUBSONIC Filter 15Hz~35Hz Bass Boost Level 0~9dB Components & PCB Double Side Board Dimension(L x W x H) 453 x 250 x 70mm So Steve, can you stop lying to us already? Please? It's getting old. I will not reveal any other info regarding your amplifiers so long as you admit the discrepancies you've stated. Your buildhouse will be kept a secret. No other info will be revealed. I won't even take this to other more-trafficked forums. Continue to lie though, and I promise you're gonna have a much larger issue on your hands - especially when some of the other forums get involved. Enough is enough. IF YOU WANT TO CLAIM 2800+w RMS - PROVE IT. Clamp your 2200v2 for all to see. If it really does the power you claim, then you'll have surprised us all and you can go show off the video to everyone from eCoustics, to CA, to CACO, etc. Lastly, if this amp does 2800+w as you claim....why the heck did you build a 3250v2? Folks, I'm not here to attack the amp. I'm sure the amp will produce output according to the buildhouse's specifications listed above. The amp is probably fine. It's the claims that Mr. Miller and RD Audio are making that I have a problem with. Stop lying Steve. |
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Silver Member Username: CozceSt. Louis ILLside, Pronounced: ... U.S.A. Post Number: 849 Registered: Mar-08 | snap |
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Silver Member Username: BoomtankRochester, NY USA Post Number: 643 Registered: Oct-06 | what was the distortion at the rated 2800watts? Maybe he was just saying at higher distortion it will produce more power, which is true isn't it? |
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New member Username: AlzeroPost Number: 2 Registered: Oct-09 | Amps aren't rated at 10%+ THD these days...they're rated at 1% or lower. But if Steve decided to rate at some abnormally high and audible level of distortion (like what you're suggesting), then his claimed power is thoroughly deceptive and cause for major concern. |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 7364 Registered: Nov-05 | I've been saying this for a while.. I just never went that into detail haha  |
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Platinum Member Username: Rovin1 15 = 152.5 DBs ...Trinidad & T... Post Number: 15561 Registered: Jul-05 | oh oh ..... |
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Gold Member Username: BonhamdTraverse City, MI Post Number: 1951 Registered: Nov-07 | SUBSONIC Filter 15Hz~35Hz is that unusual? is it usually up to 60-70 or so? or am i just a big fat noob? |
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Platinum Member Username: Rovin1 15 = 152.5 DBs ...Trinidad & T... Post Number: 15562 Registered: Jul-05 | ^u sure ur not confusing SSF with LPF ... |
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Silver Member Username: Kingandsons07TEAM NEBRASKA Lincoln,NE Post Number: 946 Registered: Aug-08 | oh wow |
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Platinum Member Username: Nyyfan13Northern VA Post Number: 11639 Registered: Jul-06 | Who are you? If you don't mind me asking. |
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Gold Member Username: BonhamdTraverse City, MI Post Number: 1952 Registered: Nov-07 | i thought that if you have a ported or BP box, you set the SS filter to the same frequency the port is tuned to, to cut off frequencies below your tuning. this stops your sub from unloading, correct? i have a box tuned to 40 hz....i know 5 hz probably isnt a big deal but i wouldnt want to run the risk of my sub blowing up im not sure though........ |
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Silver Member Username: BoomtankRochester, NY USA Post Number: 644 Registered: Oct-06 | Looks like someone was too late on the pre-order and is a little angry. Most Subsonic Filters I've every seen are 10-35hz or 15-35hz. Not sure why a SUBwoofer amplifier would need to be cutoff any higher then 35hz let alone 70hz. My 6.5's in my doors go down to 45 hz themselfs lol. |
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Silver Member Username: EricmbWaycross, Georgia United States Post Number: 202 Registered: Nov-08 | daniel, i guess that is unusual. most do go higher, but if your box isnt tuned that high, why even need a setting for that high? seems like it would be for more sq purposes or just some low tuned daily systems.. idk, i maybe be a big idiot... |
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Gold Member Username: BonhamdTraverse City, MI Post Number: 1953 Registered: Nov-07 | i thought my 3250 was 10-60 i doubt 5hz below port tuning would be a huge deal but i just thought it was odd, as i was under the impression that most amps went up to 60 or 70 |
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Gold Member Username: Philly306If youre going to give... Post Number: 1449 Registered: Apr-07 | i read that entire first post just to realize that i wasted my time and that you are b!tching over 500w. Im no fan of RD but its something else to see people feel so butthurt about things to try thier best to put together a well thoughtout post to slam a company. newsflash! RD isn't the first company to lie!  |
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Diamond Member Username: WingmanaliveWww.stainles... .ecrater.com Post Number: 21418 Registered: Jun-06 | Let the mud slinging begin? |
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Silver Member Username: TeamrevolutionATLANTA, GA USA Post Number: 800 Registered: May-07 | look at my posts bud and anyone who called about the new amps. I stated plenty it is new build house. You cant even buy zenon 3000w amps at the price i am selling them. OH and yes the 2200v2 does 28xx . The 1800.1 is the one thaT does 2300. fuuny how you create a name on a forum you think your ip cant be pulled. So please read what i wrote or told people. At 425 its not a zenon amp but it does as good. Secondly yes the 2200 does 2800 it is the 1800 that does 2300. OH thats because the 2200v2 is new from build house and we are first to use it. Please do a little more research before you run your mouth and try to call someone out. third never once said it was zenon amp and stated many times we went to diff build house to offer more affordable line. ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO KNOW? |
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Silver Member Username: TeamrevolutionATLANTA, GA USA Post Number: 801 Registered: May-07 | so can i call you out? why are you hiding behind a BS name who are you? |
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Silver Member Username: Kingandsons07TEAM NEBRASKA Lincoln,NE Post Number: 948 Registered: Aug-08 | "Thread jacking happen right here" hey Steve i take it the 3250s are in or whats happening there thanks |
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Silver Member Username: TeamrevolutionATLANTA, GA USA Post Number: 802 Registered: May-07 | yes and repaired v1 amp is at customs waiting to be released. |
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Silver Member Username: TeamrevolutionATLANTA, GA USA Post Number: 803 Registered: May-07 | LOL all our amplifiers are very under rated now. |
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Silver Member Username: TeamrevolutionATLANTA, GA USA Post Number: 804 Registered: May-07 | 1000.1 = 1350+ = rated 1000w 1750 = 1900+ = rated 1750w 1800.1 = 2300+ = rated 1800w 2200 = 2800+ = rated 2200w 3250 = 3350+ = rated 3000w d5 = 3800+ = rated 2000w d9 = 5400+ = rated 3600 w |
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Gold Member Username: 04redmach1Www.rdaudio.net, GA USA Post Number: 2620 Registered: Mar-06 | "Amps aren't rated at 10%+ THD these days...they're rated at 1% or lower. But if Steve decided to rate at some abnormally high and audible level of distortion (like what you're suggesting), then his claimed power is thoroughly deceptive and cause for major concern" Thought I would correct your statement here. Amps are rated at <1%THD, but at 4 ohm. You are comparing a 1 ohm load to a 4 ohm THD rating. Kevin |
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Silver Member Username: Kingandsons07TEAM NEBRASKA Lincoln,NE Post Number: 949 Registered: Aug-08 | thanks Steve, i kinda miss my amp |
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Gold Member Username: Hittin1TEAM REVOLUTION, La. Lake Charles... Post Number: 4024 Registered: May-07 | I'm sure some will clamp one of the v2's... Instead of acting like a pr!ck coming on a forum to talk sh_it, just buy an amp and get it tested ... The correct way, by an unbiased third-party then call him out if you are right... That way you won't come across as a whiny b!tch hiding behind a BS name... As you do now. |
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Gold Member Username: HdubbTeam Revolution Post Number: 4240 Registered: Nov-04 | blah blah blah. blah blah blah. blah blah blah. lets beat a dead horse to death. |
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Bronze Member Username: DomenicoGlendale, AZ USA Post Number: 79 Registered: Apr-09 | X2  |
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Silver Member Username: WickedbassTheWicked Post Number: 936 Registered: Jan-08 |  Anybody else want some popcorn??? I has plenty.  |
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Silver Member Username: PoprocksPost Number: 287 Registered: Mar-09 |  |
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Bronze Member Username: 813thumperTampa, FL United States Post Number: 93 Registered: Sep-09 | popcorn for me plz?? |
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Silver Member Username: WickedbassTheWicked Post Number: 939 Registered: Jan-08 | Sure.  |
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Bronze Member Username: 813thumperTampa, FL United States Post Number: 96 Registered: Sep-09 | mmmm.. popcorn. more drama on the side? |
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Silver Member Username: TeamrevolutionATLANTA, GA USA Post Number: 807 Registered: May-07 | whats good movie to go see? I was thinking of going to one tonight i seen that paranormal the other day it was ok. Anything you guys seen that is real good? |
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Bronze Member Username: 813thumperTampa, FL United States Post Number: 98 Registered: Sep-09 | Couples retreat looks funny. id go see that. |
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Silver Member Username: Mpinto19kColorado Springs/, CO Post Number: 317 Registered: Feb-09 | Zombie Land is pretty damn good, I really liked it. If you haven't seen it I'd def. suggest going |
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Diamond Member Username: WingmanaliveWww.stainles... .ecrater.com Post Number: 21433 Registered: Jun-06 | Cloudy with a chance of meatballs. Kids loved it. |
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Silver Member Username: Wackzirth88K-town, Il U.S. Post Number: 157 Registered: May-09 | yep heard zombieland kicked as$ |
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Silver Member Username: Mpinto19kColorado Springs/, CO Post Number: 318 Registered: Feb-09 | It did! I never really go to movies but going to see that was def. worth it |
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Silver Member Username: WickedbassTheWicked Post Number: 941 Registered: Jan-08 | I haven't been to the movies in forever. I might go tonight now that Im thinkin' about it. The last movie I seen in theaters was Beowulf in 3D, was a bit drunk at the time too. There were a couple of times when I thought I was about to get hit in the face with a sword/arrow.  |
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Bronze Member Username: 813thumperTampa, FL United States Post Number: 100 Registered: Sep-09 | "The Box" looks good but its not out yet. |
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Gold Member Username: Snowball123West Allis, WI Post Number: 3240 Registered: Oct-07 | really you went there drunk wicked? weird cause it's not like you drink every night... |
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Silver Member Username: Simple_smithLapeer, Michigan United States Post Number: 123 Registered: Dec-08 | yeah "The Box" looks sweet. would you press the button? P.S. if you haven't seen the previews, they get this box if they press the button they get a million dollars, but someone in the world dies (who they may or may not know). |
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Silver Member Username: Kingandsons07TEAM NEBRASKA Lincoln,NE Post Number: 951 Registered: Aug-08 | WOW haha humm about this |
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Silver Member Username: WickedbassTheWicked Post Number: 954 Registered: Jan-08 |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxxPLDZnqwA |
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Gold Member Username: Hittin1TEAM REVOLUTION, La. Lake Charles... Post Number: 4033 Registered: May-07 | I haven't seen the previews for it yet, but .... (at the risk of dating myself) There was an episode of Albert Hitchcock that was almost exactly like what was described a few post's ago... The box had a button... The proposal was a large sum of money if he pushed the button, and someone who he did not know and have never met would be killed... That button and the thought of all that money drove the guy crazy. He eventually pushed the button... He wanted that money... If you know anything about Alfred Hitchcock and how he ended the show, he ended this one by the guy who made the proposal congratulated him on the money he was gonna recieve.. Now he didn't have to stress over the decision anymore... Then as he's leaving, he says something like, "Well, I gotta go... The deed has been done and you have your money... Now you can get you some rest... I've just got to drop this button off to someone else.................Someone that you do not know...and have never met".. Then the credits rolled.. I liked that episide.. Think it was my 2nd favorite. My Favorite was a little more twisted and threw me for a loop back then.. |
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Silver Member Username: M0nstarToledo, OH U.S. Post Number: 356 Registered: Dec-08 | i took my box out for awhile and just put it back in today... i realized that "we be steady mobbin" is probably the only song that i could pull the power wire on my highs amp and listen to the whole song thru. i say this because i use an RD amp and have been since.... january? i <3 RD ...... and kevin and steve. |
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Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rI compensate... Post Number: 9424 Registered: Jul-06 | What a terrible thread right from the very start. |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 23530 Registered: Oct-05 | steve how can you watch paranormal activity. that movie is the scariest movie i've seen. i walked out of the theater after 40 minutes. i couldn't take it anymore. |
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Gold Member Username: DuckaShelby Twp., MI United States Post Number: 1267 Registered: Jan-08 | Sweet, I should go see that movie then. |
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Gold Member Username: Hittin1TEAM REVOLUTION, La. Lake Charles... Post Number: 4038 Registered: May-07 | X2^^^ lmao. Chad= Puss_y  |
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Silver Member Username: Mpinto19kColorado Springs/, CO Post Number: 321 Registered: Feb-09 | lmao at this whole thread But is that movie actually scary? Looked really stupid to me |
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Silver Member Username: QuirkySA, Texas Post Number: 377 Registered: Feb-07 | Ha Looks like the original subject took a sharp turn from a guy full out fussing about a company, to what movies are out. As Phil said, "RD isn't the first company to lie!" It should not be a huge surprise a company may bend the truth a bit. Not taking any position weather they did or did not however I would like to think RD is a respectable company. This thread would have been more productive if the op had brought the issue to our attention with a valid debate/discussion to uncover the truth, rather than a blatant attack on the company. |
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Gold Member Username: SplmonsterAkron, OH USA Post Number: 1578 Registered: May-06 | hey steve what does the 850 do? is it under rated too? |
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Silver Member Username: Msand951San jacinto, Ca Usa Post Number: 206 Registered: Mar-07 | i heard paranormal activy sucks. Its being compared to another blair witch project type film. I havent seen it but i was told not to waste my time. |
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Silver Member Username: M0nstarToledo, OH U.S. Post Number: 370 Registered: Dec-08 | anyone go to se saw VI tonight? it better not suck as much as the last 2 |
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Silver Member Username: Mpinto19kColorado Springs/, CO Post Number: 324 Registered: Feb-09 | Come on now dude of course its going to fu<king suck and more like the last 4 |
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Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rI compensate... Post Number: 9429 Registered: Jul-06 | Haha, I agree Mauricio. They are definitely some pretty terrible movies. |
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