Wire Question
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 6496 Registered: Nov-05 | Not sure who will know.. but heres the question. Wire size VS Wire strand count Which will flow better? 3/0 (1615 strands of 30awg) -or- 1/0 (4000+ strands) Basically in relation, how does wire size vs strand count effect current flow? |
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Gold Member Username: Drant19DUB-C, TX Post Number: 1590 Registered: Aug-07 | i checked on bcae1.com and glasswolfs site, but to no luck...sorry kevo |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 6497 Registered: Nov-05 | I know, I had no luck finding a true answer |
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Diamond Member Username: WingmanaliveWww.stainles... .ecrater.com Post Number: 20421 Registered: Jun-06 | I've heard the more strands equals more surface area, meaning more efficient flow. Polo knows about this more than me. In fact I believe that's who I remember reading it from. If it were me and the ga was sufficient I'd go with more strands. |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 6498 Registered: Nov-05 | Well it is basically down to the two.. 3/0 welding cable or 1/0 kicker flex |
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Gold Member Username: Drant19DUB-C, TX Post Number: 1591 Registered: Aug-07 | i would def go with the kicker flex...have you looked at knukoncepts? maybe you could send them an email askin them, they would know more about that subject than most... x2 what paul said, somehow i remember polo talking about this |
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Diamond Member Username: WingmanaliveWww.stainles... .ecrater.com Post Number: 20422 Registered: Jun-06 | Will the kicker wire properly handle the power? Are you getting a deal on the welding cable? |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 6499 Registered: Nov-05 | welding cable is cheap.. you can get 25' of 3/0 for a little less than the kicker 1/0 kit amp is a SS XXX6500d.. 0.5ohm for burps and 2.0ohm daily |
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Diamond Member Username: WingmanaliveWww.stainles... .ecrater.com Post Number: 20423 Registered: Jun-06 | If anything the 3/0 will disperse less heat for sure. |
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Gold Member Username: Drant19DUB-C, TX Post Number: 1593 Registered: Aug-07 | if it were me, i would spend the extra cash for the wire that is made to run car audio. i would be weary about using the 3/0 welding cable, thats just cause i dont know much about cables. but of course thats just my .02 |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 6501 Registered: Nov-05 | well welding cable deals with very high amperage/voltage draw .. i mean look at the applications they use 3/0 for |
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Diamond Member Username: WingmanaliveWww.stainles... .ecrater.com Post Number: 20425 Registered: Jun-06 | Yeah but how many welders are concerned with power flow efficiency? I think most couldn't care less how much power they lose as long as they get their job done. We may be splitting hairs on loss but in car audio any loss in power is measurable and usually noticeable by connoisseurs like yourself. My $.02.  |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 6502 Registered: Nov-05 | Hence why i ask which would differ from using the two.. does one really outweigh the other and why |
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Bronze Member Username: DangerangerOhio United States Post Number: 48 Registered: Mar-09 | alright i may be wrong but i have almost completed my degree with telecommunications and I've always been told that the tighter the twist and more strands is more efficient and can carry more information and which means more power and waves and be sent through. if that is even relevant to the question lol |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 6503 Registered: Nov-05 | well that is kind of obvious.. but there has to be some kind of formula to calculate efficiency and capacity of X size wire strands and X amounts of strands in relation to the actual size of the wire (1/0, 2/0, 3/0, 4/0) |
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Gold Member Username: SouthernrebelMonroe, Louisiana Team Audible... Post Number: 7438 Registered: Mar-04 | w/ 12V DC its all about resistance. Copper mass per foot and purity. |
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Gold Member Username: SouthernrebelMonroe, Louisiana Team Audible... Post Number: 7439 Registered: Mar-04 | Also, higher stand count means more actual copper per foot. That is why 4k wire count 1/0 is better than 2k. The smaller wires can be packed together tighter, so you get more copper in a given diameter. Ex: Fill a cup w/ sand vs. fill a cup w/ marbles. |
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Bronze Member Username: DangerangerOhio United States Post Number: 49 Registered: Mar-09 | would taking how much power it can handle minus resistance be it? or is that information not available |
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Bronze Member Username: DangerangerOhio United States Post Number: 50 Registered: Mar-09 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_wire_gauge there is a chart about a quarter of the way down that gives some pretty neat information regarding number of turns and how much resistance etc... might be helpful. |
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Bronze Member Username: DangerangerOhio United States Post Number: 51 Registered: Mar-09 | didnt see canaans post. but that's what i was thinking about subtracting resistance |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 6504 Registered: Nov-05 | guess ill just stick to the kicker 1/0 unless someone can show me a better complete kit for under $90 shipped |
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