Silver Member Username: Pbplayer05Omaha/council bluffs, Iowa Post Number: 796 Registered: May-07 | just got my system put into day and as of right now not to impressed with the performance of the sub doesnt seem to be anywhere near as loud as my last setup and im running more power the sytem is an alpha 15 and a 1750 idk what im doing wrong |
Silver Member Username: Basebalz13Moneta, Va Usa Post Number: 880 Registered: Aug-07 | install, even though you upgraded you system if the box is bad or anything related install wise it will hurt the peformance |
Gold Member Username: RenegadesrunLafayette, IN US Post Number: 1017 Registered: Oct-04 | Sounds like you forgot the stickers. Stickers make it louder. I wouldnt fret about it, its a common noob error. |
Gold Member Username: Goodie_goopMid town, Texas U.S. Post Number: 1107 Registered: Oct-06 | whats the size/tuning of the box? |
Gold Member Username: Crayola0Portage, Wisconsin Post Number: 2556 Registered: Jun-06 | lol you forgot stickers and a capacitor for when ur really bumpin the cap will add like 10 dbs |
Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 23192 Registered: Oct-05 | what was your last setup? |
Gold Member Username: RedlinerWilmington, Ma Post Number: 4866 Registered: Jun-05 | what kind of box do u have the alpha in?? |
Platinum Member Username: Nyyfan13Northern VA Post Number: 10995 Registered: Jul-06 | Are you sure everything is wired correctly? Box specs? |
Silver Member Username: Pbplayer05Omaha/council bluffs, Iowa Post Number: 797 Registered: May-07 | haha funny and the specs are like 4 cubes tuned to 35hz and yes everything is wired right my last setup i had two twelve bm's on an md2d but i only had the amp at a little over a thousand watts set by dmm to it only likes a few songs and even the ones with good bass it wont play for anything and my friend just has a single type r and it sound louder on alot of the songs |
Gold Member Username: RedlinerWilmington, Ma Post Number: 4867 Registered: Jun-05 | thats pretty weird cause i have an alpha and it outperforms everything else ive ever had. So there must be something wrong or maybe the sub has something wrong with it idk |
Silver Member Username: Pbplayer05Omaha/council bluffs, Iowa Post Number: 798 Registered: May-07 | yah ive heard nothing but great things about it but it just doesnt do it but my friend assembled the box and moved the port to the outside of the baffle so i think that it might have a lower tuning how do you find out what the box is tuned to |
Silver Member Username: Pbplayer05Omaha/council bluffs, Iowa Post Number: 799 Registered: May-07 | ? |
Gold Member Username: Hittin1TEAM REVOLUTIONLake Charles... Post Number: 2243 Registered: May-07 | my guess is the enclosure is not a very good one and not to specs(actually-not on paper because they ones you mentioned sound fine) enclosure and install sound like the culprit to me. I take it that the Alpha is dual 2 ohm and is wired in parallel to the amp, right? |
Silver Member Username: Pbplayer05Omaha/council bluffs, Iowa Post Number: 800 Registered: May-07 | i wired the sub each coil going to one sideof the amp and for the box it might not be perfect but its solid and made to spec but im wandering about how to check the tuning because i think the port was put in wrong but im not sure |
Silver Member Username: Pbplayer05Omaha/council bluffs, Iowa Post Number: 801 Registered: May-07 | is there anyway to find the tuning |
Gold Member Username: Hittin1TEAM REVOLUTIONLake Charles... Post Number: 2252 Registered: May-07 | use a box calculator(BassBox Pro 6,ect), enter parameters, there ya go. For a free BC... try subwoofertools.com. I have figured out tuning with BBP6 before... never tried subwoofer tools though so... |
Gold Member Username: SomedonniedudeIllinois Braaap MX Post Number: 2285 Registered: May-07 | Maybe it needs to break in a bit, but even then it should still be somewhat wangin right out of the box. Your using aero port(s)? What size and how many? |
Gold Member Username: RedlinerWilmington, Ma Post Number: 4870 Registered: Jun-05 | http://www.the12volt.com/caraudio/woofer_configurations.asp?Q=1&I=22 which way did u wire it because these are the 2 normal ways. im kinda confused by the way u described it up above. what ohm are u running it at right now |
Silver Member Username: Pbplayer05Omaha/council bluffs, Iowa Post Number: 802 Registered: May-07 | no im not using aeros its a slot port and i didnt wire it either of those ways i wired both coils to the amp such as the positive and negaive on one coil to one side of the amp and the positive and negative of the other coil wired to the other side of the amp one of my friends said it would be ok and i figured it has an internal crossover so it would work |
Gold Member Username: 04redmach1Es DEALER, GA USA Post Number: 2483 Registered: Mar-06 | Whoa, I didn't notice this thread until now. This is the first time I have heard this from an Alpha user. Check your exact box dimensions and port dimensions. Let me know what box is. Kevin se_rdaudio@yahoo.com |
Silver Member Username: Pbplayer05Omaha/council bluffs, Iowa Post Number: 803 Registered: May-07 | these are the dimensions i was given from someone who made me a design a bit bigger 16"h x 32" w x 22"d 4.021 cubes of airspace after port and sub displacement tuned to 35hz 5.055 cubes total Top and Bottom: 32" x 22" Front Baffles 2: 28.25" x 14.5" Back: 32" x 14.5" Left Side: 21.25" x 14.5" Right Side: 19.75" x 14.5" Port Piece 1: 16.75" x 14.5" Port Piece 2: 5/8" x 14.5" i think the port my have been moved from where it was suppose to be which was behind the double baffle to the side of it so that might be my problem the tuning might be set low but im not sure |
Silver Member Username: TeamrevolutionATLANTA, GA USA Post Number: 505 Registered: May-07 | Do you want me to see what i can get one of my dealers in Iowa to build you a box? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DqRJ5y-w2o that is a 1750/alpha 15 with an extra battery. If the port is not lined up correctly it can throw the tuning off and possibly damage the subwoofer. Why did you use 5/8 wood? |
Silver Member Username: TeamrevolutionATLANTA, GA USA Post Number: 506 Registered: May-07 | Otherwise i am sure i can get BJ at fisher customer to give you a good deal. |
Silver Member Username: Pbplayer05Omaha/council bluffs, Iowa Post Number: 804 Registered: May-07 | that would be great steve thanks let e know what you find out about getting one built and no i used 3/4 thats just the weird piece for the port |
Silver Member Username: TeamrevolutionATLANTA, GA USA Post Number: 507 Registered: May-07 | I sent BJ an email as soon as he gets back to me i will let you know. |
Silver Member Username: Pbplayer05Omaha/council bluffs, Iowa Post Number: 805 Registered: May-07 | sounds good or if you do happen to know anyone around here would be good to thanks for the help |
Gold Member Username: 04redmach1Es DEALER, GA USA Post Number: 2484 Registered: Mar-06 | BJ said $215 shipped for the box Kevin |
Bronze Member Username: M0nstarToledo, OH U.S. Post Number: 81 Registered: Dec-08 | is the box that you have right now, the volume (internal) right? are u sure u didn't make a classic noob error (along with the capacitor? lol) and used outside dimensions to find the internal volume? because if u did that could REALLY fu<k up a ported box. I've done it. |
Silver Member Username: Pbplayer05Omaha/council bluffs, Iowa Post Number: 806 Registered: May-07 | i wish i could but that is above what i can spend at the moment i wish i could find someone around here besides a shop that just overprices everything but im not from here so its hard no i had someone actually make the design for me from caco and its like around five cubes before displacement |
Silver Member Username: KingtutusLincoln, Nebraska U.s.a Post Number: 554 Registered: Dec-07 | with my pass info on alpha and boxes (Quentin). sounds to me that the box is to big for the alpha. |
Silver Member Username: Pbplayer05Omaha/council bluffs, Iowa Post Number: 807 Registered: May-07 | idk i was told 4 cubes was a good sized box |
Gold Member Username: 04redmach1Es DEALER, GA USA Post Number: 2487 Registered: Mar-06 | If I find someone in your area I will let you know. It is tough to find a shop that doesn't want $400 or more for a custom box Kevin |
Silver Member Username: TeamrevolutionATLANTA, GA USA Post Number: 512 Registered: May-07 | OK man i found you a deal. I have to go pick it up myself if you want one of my guys to build it. 75.00 + ship so around 115-125.00 but i have to actually get the amount after fees because this is exactly what it costs me. If you want to do this i need you LxWxH you can use and if you get back to me soon i can pick it up today. |
Silver Member Username: Pbplayer05Omaha/council bluffs, Iowa Post Number: 808 Registered: May-07 | i'm interested in this steve my max dimensions are 32wide 22deep 16high and i'm using it daily but i plan on competing this summer in midwest spl so whatever you would recommend for that let me know when i can pay you? |
Silver Member Username: Pbplayer05Omaha/council bluffs, Iowa Post Number: 809 Registered: May-07 | i'm interested in this steve my max dimensions are 32wide 22deep 16high and i'm using it daily but i plan on competing this summer in midwest spl so whatever you would recommend for that let me know when i can pay you? |
Silver Member Username: Pbplayer05Omaha/council bluffs, Iowa Post Number: 810 Registered: May-07 | if it can be made smaller that would be better but thats as large as it can go |
Silver Member Username: TeamrevolutionATLANTA, GA USA Post Number: 515 Registered: May-07 | ok i will design a box tuned to 38hz. that should do well and still sound good. I am going to get this knocked out tomarrow so i can ship monday or tues. Call me monday. what kind of vehicle was it again? |
Silver Member Username: TeamrevolutionATLANTA, GA USA Post Number: 516 Registered: May-07 | oh if it doesnt sound right now please do not continue to play it so it doesnt get damaged. |
Silver Member Username: Pbplayer05Omaha/council bluffs, Iowa Post Number: 811 Registered: May-07 | its a 2005 grand prix gt2 ok ill give yah a call monday thanks for the help |