6 15's in a Caprice Wagon?
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Bronze Member Username: Boston_splHighland, CA United States Post Number: 28 Registered: Nov-08 | I want to try to run maybe 6 AudioQue HDC315's, ported, in a '96 Chevy Caprice Wagon, geared toward SQL. Would I have sufficient space to do this? I will also probably run 3 AudioQue 2200D's as well. I might need to upgrade the stock electrical system too...maybe. Lol. Any suggestions? Thanks! |
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Gold Member Username: SouthernrebelMonroe, Louisiana Team Audible... Post Number: 7156 Registered: Mar-04 | Wall. |
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Platinum Member Username: WingmanaliveA pic is worth 1000 posts!! Post Number: 19281 Registered: Jun-06 | Cut 6 15" holes in the roof of the wagon and invert the subs to fire into the cabin. Port out the window(s). I dare ya.  |
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Bronze Member Username: Boston_splHighland, CA United States Post Number: 29 Registered: Nov-08 | Lol. Yea, actually I never considered a wall. How much volume does each HDC315 require per enclosure for ported, max, for SPL? |
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Gold Member Username: Hittin1Lake Charles, La. United States Post Number: 1852 Registered: May-07 | "I will also probably run 3 AudioQue 2200D's as well. I might need to upgrade the stock electrical system too...maybe. " No maybe about it, you will need to upgrade your stock electrical. |
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Gold Member Username: Livin_loudCOD4 Addict Post Number: 2789 Registered: Jan-06 | you can run 4.5cuft per sub pretty much, but 6 is a different story... not sure what size for strict spl though. i have mine at 4.3cuft and it sounds good |
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Bronze Member Username: Boston_splHighland, CA United States Post Number: 31 Registered: Nov-08 | Yea, it's kind of obvious that I can't run 6000w+ of power w/o a serious electrical upgrade, hence the "LOL" after I said that. |
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Bronze Member Username: Boston_splHighland, CA United States Post Number: 32 Registered: Nov-08 | Yea Eric, 4.5cu.ft. actually sounds good since I'm actually goin' for more of an SQL setup. |
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Silver Member Username: WinterfreshpimpChisago, MN America Post Number: 664 Registered: Mar-06 | I wish i was that rich$$$$$ lol. |
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Bronze Member Username: Boston_splHighland, CA United States Post Number: 33 Registered: Nov-08 | Me too. Lol. I'm not buying everything at once, though I wish I could. I'll probably build this system over several months. |
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Silver Member Username: WinterfreshpimpChisago, MN America Post Number: 665 Registered: Mar-06 | yeah all i have left to get is my h.o. alt. and batt. im excited. but your system just sounds like madness.... |
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Gold Member Username: Surferdude9371Get loud or go home.... Post Number: 1562 Registered: Mar-07 | how about walling 4 18s instead |
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Silver Member Username: BumpndatrunkMilwaukee, WI Post Number: 268 Registered: Mar-07 | 6 15s man thats gonna be krazy but is it a bubble caprice or a box |
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Gold Member Username: Killerzracing71Post Number: 2345 Registered: Aug-05 | No you wont have the space. First thing first How the hell do you plan on fitting all that sh*t in there Your gonna have to do alot of work Only way you can even think of fitting 6 15s in your car is taking out the Rear seat and Im not talking about the 3rd row. Second. a wall of 18s? not gonna happen them cars arent that big. prolly a wall of 4 10s is possible and its a 96 its a bubble Monster Last but not least where did you find a 96 wagon? How much you pay? |
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Gold Member Username: RedlinerWilmington, Ma Post Number: 4779 Registered: Jun-05 | first off u wouldnt b able to afford it lol. just the electrical would be more than im sure u wanna spend 6600 watts i dont c it happening |
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Bronze Member Username: Boston_splHighland, CA United States Post Number: 34 Registered: Nov-08 | First off, you don't know me or my financial situation, or how willing I am to invest in a system. Secondly, I have talked with an employee at my local car audio shop, who own's an Astro Van with 4 Treo CSX 18's (not walled off), and he's assured me that given the volume of the space behind the B-pillar, 6 15's is very possible. (I'll need roughly 27cu.ft. I have that much and then some. Also, considering 6 HDC315's will only run me about $1500 and 3 AQ2200D's will run about $1170, I will have offset the cost of the necessary electrical upgrades, by buying from AudioQue who's equipment is relatively cheap. (As opposed to Fi, Treo, RE Audio, etc..) Thus, the fact that you "don't c it happening" is ultimately irrelevant. BTW, I never said I plan on building a wall, but rather that I hadn't ever considered it. And I'm sorry, but a WALL of 4 10's is just dumb. I mostly just started this thread to get educated second opinions, not random posts from those who don't know what they're talking about. |
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Gold Member Username: DeadrabitMarionville, MO Post Number: 1113 Registered: Jun-07 | 20cuft . that is a min! you need more i would think. if u r going to get those. u really should get some more power. get 3 of the 3500s! with all that sub it would be a shame to under power them. but that is just imo. even with that it will be CRAZY loud! |
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Silver Member Username: DuckaHoughton and/or Macomb, MI United States Post Number: 854 Registered: Jan-08 | Hey Chris I'm almost positive that Biggie Smalls owns a similar wagon with something massive in the back... So if he says you won't have the space... You might not. But yeah I think you're going to need a ton of room. 4.5cuft per sub plus port and sub displacement. Things could get messy. Best of luck to you though, and I hope it works out for you. |
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Silver Member Username: DuckaHoughton and/or Macomb, MI United States Post Number: 855 Registered: Jan-08 | Ohh yeah dont forget you need somewhere to put all of the amps and batteries too. |
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Gold Member Username: Killerzracing71Post Number: 2348 Registered: Aug-05 | Yeah I have a 92 Caprice wagon with 2 18s My orignal Intent was 4, but i didnt want to wait anymore. Im running 12 cubes the box is 47" wide and thats a little too wide. its 22" tall total and 30" long Caprices wagons behind the Rear seat have a Max useable space of 47x47x 23 and that PUSHING IT. Unless you plan on sincking the box down where the Thrid Row is, (still not gonna give you much and Just complicate everything, then you will have No room for amps. I can fit 20 Cubic Feet no problem, but it would be tough, the box that I have its too close IMO to the roof, and its about 17" away from the rear. and If you did the box I had and tried to fit 6 15s it wouldnt work either http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f92/RyanM923/RandomBoxDesigns/?action=view&cur rent=QuadMach5MZs18ft3at28hz.png subs would be back to back and its a total of 45" and with 24" from Rear Cargo area to roof, thats about the only setup you could Fit 4 10s walled with enigh room to spare, With all that being said. You will have to Delete the 2nd rode Seat. then you can do it. Is that what you plan on doing? heres my Wagon http://www.impalassforum.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?t=211290&highlight=Shackin %27 |
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Gold Member Username: RedlinerWilmington, Ma Post Number: 4786 Registered: Jun-05 | lol well enjoy doing it if u have the money i was just saying ppl always come in here saying there going to do things like this then 2 months later its okay 2 15's. but if u want like they said ull need 27 cuft. plus ull also need room for the 3 amps and dont forget that you will also need to buy some front stage and some amps for those. so they dont get overpowered by the subs. |
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Bronze Member Username: Boston_splHighland, CA United States Post Number: 36 Registered: Nov-08 | All good points, and yes I plan on removing the rear seats if needed. I'm also pretty sure that giving each 1000w rms sub, 1100w each isn't under powering them. Worst case scenario, I do run out of room I can always go 4 15's, which would probably still be plenty loud, and maybe even allow me to keep my rear seats. I dunno we'll see, I still have more planning to do. BTW, Dr. Cool Kid nice wagon. I would've gotten a '92 but I hate how the pre '94 interiors look. |
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Silver Member Username: Kingandsons07TEAM REVOLUTION Lincoln,NE Post Number: 357 Registered: Aug-08 | I might need to upgrade the stock electrical system too...maybe. WOW that got me there  "IF" u got the money for all that u can do better then audio Q!!!!!!!!! |
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Gold Member Username: Killerzracing71Post Number: 2350 Registered: Aug-05 | I wasnt a fan of the 92 Dashes, (which is basicaaly the biggest dif. and Door panels sorta) Before I didndt even care for caprices till I saw this guys wagon layed out on 20s Looked soooo good I want to get a Olds Custom Cruiser Dash and Instrument Cluster and some Bonnivile seats. Go for it take the seats out the back and you can most likely fit the box One thing you might need to do is Dynamat the hell out the rear, they need it bad. I have Fender FLares on my wagon (the rear skirts are cut out like the 93+ Caprices,) and its not comolete, Welds Broke on the fender to Wheel well and It Flexes that Panel HARDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD I put some dampening on it helped quite a bit but its still loud. Broke the seam sealer on the flares too LOL |
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Bronze Member Username: Boston_splHighland, CA United States Post Number: 39 Registered: Nov-08 | Quentin, what would you recommend over AudioQue? Keep in mind, I'd like to stay under $500 per sub (15's or 18's). Thanks. |
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Gold Member Username: Snowball123West Allis, WI Post Number: 1830 Registered: Oct-07 | he'll prolly recommend RD cause he rides their dic* hard. |
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Gold Member Username: Killerzracing71Post Number: 2351 Registered: Aug-05 | Mach 5 audio IXL 18s |
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Silver Member Username: DuckaHoughton and/or Macomb, MI United States Post Number: 865 Registered: Jan-08 | Lol at snow for being an azzhole all day. |
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Bronze Member Username: Boston_splHighland, CA United States Post Number: 40 Registered: Nov-08 | Same here Smalls, about 4yrs. ago, parked outside a Tweeter store I saw a '95 Caprice Wagon, bagged on 22's (though I'm normally not a fan of the "big rim" craze) laying frame, shaved. I fell in love immediately. The owner was one of the dept. managers & he was cool enough to open it up and show me the inside. It had six Xtant 12's in medium sized sealed enclosures, with plenty of room to spare (though I don't really care for Xtant). Anyway, I've wanted one ever since. Plus, I'm 6'4" so small (import type) cars never really appealed to me, especially with that ridiculous high pitched "4 cylinder whine" at high RPM's. Not to mention I like torque. Lol. Oh, and I will definitely Dynamat the hell out of the whole thing. |
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Gold Member Username: Snowball123West Allis, WI Post Number: 1833 Registered: Oct-07 | |
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Gold Member Username: Killerzracing71Post Number: 2352 Registered: Aug-05 | Well join ISSF www.impalassforum.com We would love to see this build and B/D bodies in general |
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Bronze Member Username: Boston_splHighland, CA United States Post Number: 41 Registered: Nov-08 | It kinda seems like RD Audio is in a bit of a different price range than AudioQue. Is the difference in quality that big as well? |
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Gold Member Username: Livin_loudCOD4 Addict Post Number: 2799 Registered: Jan-06 | AQ is one of the top brands out right now... they sh!t quality for breakfast. sure there's better but you won't beat them dollar for dollar. |
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Bronze Member Username: Boston_splHighland, CA United States Post Number: 42 Registered: Nov-08 | Gotcha. Stupid question here, but two AQ HDC315's will hit more dB's than one Treo SSX 15, assuming they're in similar enclosures correct? I already know the answer is yes, I guess I'm just double checking. Granted two 15's will take up more room than one, but then again luckily space isn't much of an issue right now. If this question seems kind of random, I only ask because two AQ HDC315's will run me exactly the same as one SSX 15 (at least at the shop I went to, and they said that $500 for one SSX 15 was a steal. I don't know if this is true but,..) |
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Gold Member Username: Snowball123West Allis, WI Post Number: 1842 Registered: Oct-07 | depends on the install man. cant just come up with a score just by looking at your equipment. I dont think that's a "steal" either. |
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Silver Member Username: DuckaHoughton and/or Macomb, MI United States Post Number: 885 Registered: Jan-08 | I would say that most of the time it would be easier to make the 2 AQs louder than the 1 treo, but like snow said its all in the install. |
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Gold Member Username: •cam•BC Canada Post Number: 2552 Registered: Nov-06 | If you're going to go to all that trouble and spend all that money, talk to Peter Kulicki. http://www.pwkdesigns.com/index.html |
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Gold Member Username: BonhamdPost Number: 1579 Registered: Nov-07 | ^x2 - definately get a good box designed and built if you cannot build yourself |
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Silver Member Username: DuckaHoughton and/or Macomb, MI United States Post Number: 887 Registered: Jan-08 | Uhh the shipping on a box for 6 15"s would be insane... like shipping a Vdub bug. |
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