215in l7s or 2 18 Fi Btl's
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New member Username: WhiteblasterPost Number: 1 Registered: Oct-08 | im lookin for something rediculously loud and will shake my car like crazy which is a better set up the l7s ar really loud, but sloppy and i never heard btl's b4 dint no if their TWO big? what amps should i run with either set up? |
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Silver Member Username: Basebalz13Moneta, Va Usa Post Number: 786 Registered: Aug-07 | how about some Sundown Nightshades  get redicously loud but retain the SQ lik no other |
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New member Username: WhiteblasterPost Number: 2 Registered: Oct-08 | i never heard of them, how much and where? |
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Gold Member Username: Surferdude9371Get loud or go home.... Post Number: 1360 Registered: Mar-07 | i have a single btl thats loud as hell id take one over 2 l7s any day |
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Gold Member Username: BonhamdPost Number: 1381 Registered: Nov-07 | BTLs hands down there are more things than just the sub that you might want to consider what is your total budget? do you have any wire? do you have a HU? do you have any electrical upgrades? what kind of car is this going in to? how much air space do you have / want to give up? you will definately need electrical upgrades to run either setup mentioned to its full potential |
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Silver Member Username: CozceSt. Louis ILLsideU.S.A. Post Number: 350 Registered: Mar-08 | BTL's. They should be louder due to cone area, and would more than likely sound better than the L7's. and x2 what Daniel said. |
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Gold Member Username: Livin_loudCOD4 Addict Post Number: 2703 Registered: Jan-06 | "They should be louder due to cone area" not to mention they handle over twice the power... |
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Gold Member Username: Surferdude9371Get loud or go home.... Post Number: 1361 Registered: Mar-07 | "not to mention they handle over twice the power..." And prob more than twice the build quality |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Philadelphia, PA Post Number: 8786 Registered: Jul-06 | BTLs crush L7s in build quality, power handling, just about every aspect |
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New member Username: WhiteblasterPost Number: 3 Registered: Oct-08 | well say i can get the air space and wiring and ship, but how big of an amp would i need to push em? |
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Silver Member Username: ShadeMoxee, Wa U.S. Post Number: 775 Registered: Nov-06 | they're rated at 2000rms for each one, so atleast 4k... |
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Gold Member Username: Surferdude9371Get loud or go home.... Post Number: 1364 Registered: Mar-07 | id insteade do one fully loaded btl 18 with 2500 to 4000 rms on it |
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Gold Member Username: Drant19DUB-C, TX Post Number: 1293 Registered: Aug-07 | BTLs can take 4k easy, as long as its a clean signal. |
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New member Username: WhiteblasterPost Number: 4 Registered: Oct-08 | any ideas on what amp to buy? brands , i want something that will deffinately puse these subs |
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Gold Member Username: BonhamdPost Number: 1409 Registered: Nov-07 | are you going with a BTL? AQ3500D IA40.1 RD3250 MMATS 3500.1/3500.05 kicker kx/zx2500.1 American Bass 200.1 American Bass 400.1 there are plenty more as well |
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Gold Member Username: BonhamdPost Number: 1410 Registered: Nov-07 | saz3000 |
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Platinum Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 10756 Registered: Jun-04 | If you want to save money on the amp and be within limits of your electrical id suggest two mjm 18's from mach 5 audio. You could go with an amp that gives the subs the full 1400 watts but youll probably have to turn the gain down to your electrical limits. $155.00 each http://www.mach5audio.com/zen/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=66&products_id=182 |
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New member Username: WhiteblasterPost Number: 5 Registered: Oct-08 | so would http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_6712_Kicker+ZX2500.1.html this work? i think im goin with the 2 18" btls unless someone can come up with another set up to destroy my hearing for $2,000 Im gettin a new car or suv soon, so im kinda deciding subs before the vehicle I have 2 12" brutus squares in a ported box with a 1500 watt vertigo amp, but it aint doing it for me, so thats why i need something thatll make everyone look when im driving by, Something LOUD! thanks |
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Silver Member Username: DuckaHoughton and/or Macomb, MI United States Post Number: 682 Registered: Jan-08 | I think you will be more than satisfied with 2 BTLs. A friend of mine had 2 of those brutus squares and recently got 1 BTL 18. He is a huge basshead and he complains of his ears ringing for a while after he is done listening to his new BTL. Ohhh yes, they will be LOUD. Make sure your electrical can handle it and that you have plenty of sound deadener. I think your gunna need a SUV for 2 of them badboys... They need A LOT of air. Don't worry 2 BTLs will definitely turn heads. |
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Gold Member Username: The_image_dynamicSan Diego, California Post Number: 4725 Registered: Dec-06 |
Yeah... like if you want to drive around in shame for the next few years with a piece of crap Keeker sub in your car. Fi FTW and it isn't even close. |
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New member Username: WhiteblasterPost Number: 6 Registered: Oct-08 | so would that kicker work? zx2500 well now i got my subs picked out, all i need is a car/ suv / truck choice, and a box build any ideas on vehicle, i want sumthing to bump hard with and decent gas milage,,,preferably sumthing under $8,000 used i was looking at rendezvous, but they get bad mpg i guess |
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Gold Member Username: Drant19DUB-C, TX Post Number: 1304 Registered: Aug-07 | dont buy that 18" BTL yet when you dont even know what its going in! no point in getting the 18 if you cant get a box in the trunk. get a car/suv/truck and THEN come back and ask questions. |
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New member Username: WhiteblasterPost Number: 7 Registered: Oct-08 | um dude i can get a car/ suv in no time thats not the problem, i need an amp that can push 2 BTLS thats under a grand, i am bad with watage and rms, and all that stuff, and i really dnt wanna drop 900 on subz and fry um, or fudge up my voice coils Itl be my winter project putin um into a vehicle, and makin a big box all i wana know is sites for amps 2 push 2 of em bad boyz, would this bad boy work? MA Audio HK4000D or http://www.teptronics.com/opti6000d.html |
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Gold Member Username: Surferdude9371Get loud or go home.... Post Number: 1414 Registered: Mar-07 | i run my fully loaded btl off a kx2500.1 which is same as the zx so that will be fine just get the dual 1ohm version |
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Gold Member Username: Surferdude9371Get loud or go home.... Post Number: 1415 Registered: Mar-07 | if your pushing one you will need at least a 250 amp alt 2 is gonna need even bigger id stick with one for the moment in my "ranger" im doing 145db with one off 2500rms |
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Gold Member Username: RedlinerWilmington, Ma Post Number: 4592 Registered: Jun-05 | yea just remeber your gonna need a new alt and prob some batts otherwise you will just fry them. |
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Gold Member Username: Hittin1Lake Charles, La. United States Post Number: 1557 Registered: May-07 | I would go with a different set of subs if stuck on a 2 sub setup... Especially 18's... They (BTL's) both would need a lot more than the ZX2500 will put out.. There are better choices for the amp's power/price range that you are looking into . JMHO Those BTL's are beasts. |
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Gold Member Username: Surferdude9371Get loud or go home.... Post Number: 1416 Registered: Mar-07 | "They (BTL's) both would need a lot more than the ZX2500 will put out" im doing 145 to music off the kx2500.1 so i beg to differ |
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Platinum Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 10805 Registered: Jun-04 | Like I said give a pair of those mach 5 audio mjm 18's a shot its a lot less hassle and will still be loud. |
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Gold Member Username: Hittin1Lake Charles, La. United States Post Number: 1565 Registered: May-07 | let me rephrase... 2 18" BTL's need a lot more than 2500 wrms. 1 18" BTL is a great match... |
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Gold Member Username: LoudonPost Number: 2810 Registered: Jun-04 | haha i love how these kids think there getting 4k out of an amp at 11 volts clipping like no other ... with a stock 80 amp alt and batt .. get real bro .. do things properly ... read up bcae1.com |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Philadelphia, PA Post Number: 8895 Registered: Jul-06 | The MA audio and Lanzar are both crap amps Listen to Daniel B those are all good amps And yeah tell me about it mike. It seems impossible to make noobs get it that amps DO NOT produce big power without a big electrical system. You only get out as much power as you put into the amp.... actually less. |
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New member Username: WhiteblasterPost Number: 8 Registered: Oct-08 | hey i get the whole power thing an i got yellow cappers, and all the alternators i need, but it kinda hard to buy alternators for a car you dont have yet i am fairly new to subs and systems, but im trying to learn, all i want is a subs and an amp for 2 grand thatll be loud as hell, i looked at the sundowns and a bunch of uther ones u guys recomended, and they sound like a little pu$$y system unless you got a hatchback and 4 subs the loudest system i found in my town so far is either type r,s w7's and some l7's i just want to that car you can hear before you see a long ways away my 2 12's now shake and boom pretty good for squares, but they dont hit really low, and their only loud in the car so if anyone has a better set up for under 2k please tell me, im just throwing around ideas THANX |
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Gold Member Username: Surferdude9371Get loud or go home.... Post Number: 1427 Registered: Mar-07 | "hey i get the whole power thing an i got yellow cappers, and all the alternators i need, but it kinda hard to buy alternators for a car you dont have yet" dont worry about it they werent born with that knowledge everyone has to learn sometime Btls will give you exactly what you are looking for they are ground pounders run a single 18 and im sure you will be happy you can always add on more later |
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Gold Member Username: BonhamdPost Number: 1423 Registered: Nov-07 | ^ i agree - a loaded BTL on proper power will be loud as balls daily |
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New member Username: DeuslePost Number: 1 Registered: Nov-08 | Get the 2 BTL's and 2 Hifonics BXI2006D's FI makes kickers sh!t look like paper weights... |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1604 Registered: Apr-07 | I've got a 4kw amp I'll sell you for a good price too I'd try 1 sub 1 amp, see how you like it and go from there. I've had BTL 18s for years, why don't you shoot me an email to tejcurrent@yahoo.com. |
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Gold Member Username: Surferdude9371Get loud or go home.... Post Number: 1429 Registered: Mar-07 | hifonics ftl stick with a quality amp youll hate yourself if you get a hifonics |
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Gold Member Username: LoudonPost Number: 2811 Registered: Jun-04 | lol to this kid who thinks hes got enough power to run 4k daily ... get real son |
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Gold Member Username: Surferdude9371Get loud or go home.... Post Number: 1431 Registered: Mar-07 | he said he understands that he needs an HO alt. seriously y be a jackass this is y we have no traffic on this forum you werent born with the knowledge from birth everyone has to learn sometime |
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Gold Member Username: JakeyplaysbassSt. Louis, MO / ASU Post Number: 3418 Registered: Jul-05 | You people are honestly telling him to get 2 18s and he doesnt even have a car/truck/suv picked out? ...........ugh.......... |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1605 Registered: Apr-07 | I sold my Mustang to get a Yukon so I could fit 18s. I picked my truck to fit the system I wanted, so I'm assuming he's doing the same thing. You can fit an 18 or two in most suvs available if you work on it. |
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New member Username: WhiteblasterPost Number: 9 Registered: Oct-08 | aight scratch that i found 2 15' 2008 l7's in a box and crap, for a grand thanx for you help guys how bout a new question will http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_13404_Kicker+Dual+08S15L74+Loaded+Combo.html # and http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_6712_Kicker+ZX2500.1.html this work? the sub combos are 4 ohms and the amp says 2 ohms how does that work? or is their a site to explain ohms and wattage and rms or something? is the amp 2 big or would it be perfect? |
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Gold Member Username: Surferdude9371Get loud or go home.... Post Number: 1433 Registered: Mar-07 | bud y? l7s arent gonna b as loud and sound lioke crap? |
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Gold Member Username: BonhamdPost Number: 1430 Registered: Nov-07 | you can do much better with your budget |
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New member Username: DeuslePost Number: 4 Registered: Nov-08 | they are DUAL 4 ohm voice coils (each sub) this means you can wire each sub to either 2 or 8 ohms. This is a VERY EXPENSIVE setup, try looking on ebay or craigslist. but if you insist... get the Dual 2 Ohm sub combo: http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_13345_Kicker+Dual+08S15L72+Loaded+Combo.html and wire them in series/parallel like so: http://www.the12volt.com/caraudio/woofer_configurations.asp?Q=2&I=22 You would need at least a 200 amp alt and 0/1 gauge wireing and an extra battery in the back. so realistically you would be spending ~$2500... which is WAY too much for some kickers... if your getting kickers get solo X 18s fa sho: http://cgi.ebay.com/KICKER-SOLO-X-18-S18X-10-000W-SUBWOOFER-NEW-S18X2-SUB_W0QQcm dZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a570Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksid Zp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem160293139034QQitemZ160293139034QQptZCarQ5fSubwoofers Q5fEnclosuresQQsalenotsupported if you have cash to just throw around, get 2 solo X dual 4 ohms, and 2 kicker ZX2500's. Gauranteed loudest system in your area if powered correctly. |
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Gold Member Username: BonhamdPost Number: 1434 Registered: Nov-07 | jordan - if you want to be loud you really have to commit half of your budget to electrical upgrades - on basically any car you get a single btl on 3-4K will be plently loud daily in a good install those kicker setups are way over priced i would take a single BTL over 2 L7s any day |
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Gold Member Username: Loc_outTeam RE XXX Post Number: 2646 Registered: Feb-05 | " You people are honestly telling him to get 2 18s and he doesnt even have a car/truck/suv picked out? " Jake is the only one right. What's the piont of pick sub's amp's if you dont have a car? What's going to happen when he isn't able to find a H.O alt? |
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Gold Member Username: Hittin1Lake Charles, La. United States Post Number: 1580 Registered: May-07 | wow @ this thread |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 22706 Registered: Oct-05 | can't believe i wasted 5 minutes to read this whole thread. that's 5 minutes i'll never get back. first of all, you want to go with 2 btl 18s. what front stage are you gonna have? or do you just want to drive around going boom boom boom. you can have the best subs in the world but if they over power your front stage it will sound like sh!t. also people saying L7's sounding like sh!t. obviously you guys haven't heard one in a good setup. i know i know you'll say "but chad i have heard one". nothing i can say about that. but i guess we all have different tastes. let me just remind you i have tried many subs personally so i can compare. with that said, decide on the car you want. you can always change the system with ease but changing car can be a bit pricey. |
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Gold Member Username: Surferdude9371Get loud or go home.... Post Number: 1434 Registered: Mar-07 | "also people saying L7's sounding like sh!t. obviously you guys haven't heard one in a good setup" guess not and ive heard alot bud loud but messy to me |
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Gold Member Username: Snowball123West Allis, WI Post Number: 1621 Registered: Oct-07 | I don't get why people ask for our help and then choose against what everyone said. |
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New member Username: WhiteblasterPost Number: 10 Registered: Oct-08 | because theirs mor im portant things to buy with 2 k than just subs, and acc. I really really hate the way one sub looks thats why im going with the l7's my buds ghot his in an s 10 blazer and hes shaking the inside a my car and he puts my current system to shame hardcore I understand exactly what u guys are saying about batteries and alternators but im not including them because i got a mechanic that can do stuff cheap, and i have so many batteries in my garage its not even funny, i was really hoping for the btl's but they need to much juice, and i dont wana spend my college money on subs .....i really dont care about quality as long as i can be heard, im just trying to have fun in a small town....thank you for all you guys help and where can you find 2 2008 kicker 15'' L7's NEW* because i cant find a cheaper setup, i dont buy ANYTHING used, and i like the way the squares look to....well im not ordering yet, and for all you guys who are like what car what car,,,,,i have a car budget in my head, and i have a trade in, and i am not worried about it,,,i can see spending 10k with a trade in on a car, but not over 2 k on a system |
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Gold Member Username: Hittin1Lake Charles, La. United States Post Number: 1582 Registered: May-07 | I have owned L5's, L7's, and Solo x's.. You will need plenty of rook for 2 15" L7's.. A lot of electrical upgrades, and a lot of power.. All for Huge bass and medi-ocre sound... I can and would find better subs that sound better and cost less.. |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Philadelphia, PA Post Number: 8917 Registered: Jul-06 | Way to waste everyones time, don't listen to anyone who knows anything, and buy one of the shittiest subs ever    |
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Gold Member Username: Livin_loudCOD4 Addict Post Number: 2724 Registered: Jan-06 | thank you, M.S.. |
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Bronze Member Username: WhiteblasterPost Number: 11 Registered: Oct-08 | aight i found new l7's on ebay for cheaper and found a new zx2500 and im trying to take you guys advice but when i look at my budget and what you saying, i end up with a negative budget im so confused, im trying to listen and understand all you points, but i looked at other sub/ amp options, and they all sound like crap compared to the l7's setup....idk im just going off the internet vids, nobody around heres got any good stuff cept the l7's and the jl w7 im not trying to waste YOUR time, im trying not to waste MY money "I have owned L5's, L7's, and Solo x's.. You will need plenty of rook for 2 15" L7's.. A lot of electrical upgrades, and a lot of power.. All for Huge bass and medi-ocre sound... I can and would find better subs that sound better and cost less.." than how bout you let me in on you idea of a better system ,,, so far the ony suz mentioned were the sundowns, and i didnt like how they hit,,,and the mach 5 subs looked cheap and flimsy....idk guys im sorry to be difficult, but thats what a forums for , to find out ?'s that NEWBIE Dumba$$es liike me DONT know yet Im sorry for not being all read up on subs and watts, and boxes and capacitors, and all that,,,, all i wanted was advice from people who know what their talking about, not the guy in the only audio shop in town telling me i need to buy his WAY overpriced subs |
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Gold Member Username: Snowball123West Allis, WI Post Number: 1627 Registered: Oct-07 | you can't judge a subwoofer from youtube vids... or from its looks. |
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Platinum Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 10847 Registered: Jun-04 | Get two audiopulse revo 12's for 398.00 shipped. http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=293-612 kicker 2500.1 And the rest on electrical and battery upgrades. |
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Gold Member Username: Livin_loudCOD4 Addict Post Number: 2725 Registered: Jan-06 | you will not find a better deal than those revo's. they are 10's but they will surprise the sh!t out of you properly installed |
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Platinum Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 10848 Registered: Jun-04 | opps I thought they were twelves. |
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Gold Member Username: BonhamdPost Number: 1437 Registered: Nov-07 | that would be a sick setup |
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