(pics) new toy for the car..
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 5436 Registered: Nov-05 |  .. left slack in the lines/wiring so it could be moved later when i finish up installing the rest of my audio equipment back not sure how i want it laid out yet big difference though    |
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Bronze Member Username: LoudnproudPost Number: 69 Registered: Jul-08 | so...this is one of those kits that makes your car run off of water, right? How much did it cost, and how hard was it to install? |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 5437 Registered: Nov-05 | no it don't make your car run off water.. right now its a 40/60% mix of alcohol/water the water helps cool the intake charge/motor where as the alcohol helps boost the octane my mix + 93oct should be close to 113oct its tuned to come in at 10psi.. this is like a good version of NOS but for a turboed/supercharged car.. runs cooler and produces a lot more power with the spray im running and mixture.. its good for about 40/50WHP |
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Gold Member Username: JtownTexas Post Number: 3151 Registered: Mar-07 | so, purely for power? not mileage, right? |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 5438 Registered: Nov-05 | doesn't effect my fuel mileage since it itself is fuel basically boost octane/lowers intake and motor temp/allows higher boost |
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Gold Member Username: JtownTexas Post Number: 3153 Registered: Mar-07 | and is this only a benefit for turbo and supercharged vehicles? |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 22186 Registered: Oct-05 | nice kev. |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 5439 Registered: Nov-05 | its what you need chad and to buy my old turbo hehe |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 22189 Registered: Oct-05 | lol no turbo til january. just wondering, is there a button you push? like nos? |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 5440 Registered: Nov-05 | nope, starts spraying at 10psi.. once i hit 10psi and it sprays.. it don't even take 1second for it to jump to 23psi |
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Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rI compensate... Post Number: 8652 Registered: Jul-06 | Make sure you've got a good tune. |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 5441 Registered: Nov-05 | already covered.. 20 passes and many datalogs later.. |
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Gold Member Username: Loc_outSOCAL2 RE 15 XXX Post Number: 2426 Registered: Feb-05 | I like that kevin.. |
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Gold Member Username: JtownTexas Post Number: 3159 Registered: Mar-07 | would this work well on a turbo diesel? |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 5442 Registered: Nov-05 | yes |
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Gold Member Username: JtownTexas Post Number: 3160 Registered: Mar-07 | kevin, you know alot about engines? I have some questions if so, about a diesel vs 351 for a f150 in particular. |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 5443 Registered: Nov-05 | you can make more power out of that diesel.. itll cost you more since youll have to mess with ECU tuning and turbo parts 351s are easy to build and cheaper.. won't have turbo lag but if you know how to brake boost that would not be an issue anyway but why use a 351 if you want a gas motor? start off with a bigger block, 455 and build that if this is going to be a daily driver i would probably go the diesel route.. just a car to drive and race i'd build a big block or buy a crate motor |
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Gold Member Username: Van_manBoston South, MA Post Number: 4251 Registered: Mar-06 | interesting. |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 22196 Registered: Oct-05 | when i'm ready for turbo or supercharger, i will be bothering the sh!t out of you kev. |
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Silver Member Username: KingtutusLincoln, Nebraska U.s.a Post Number: 401 Registered: Dec-07 | dont buy a crate motor |
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Gold Member Username: JtownTexas Post Number: 3162 Registered: Mar-07 | I'd get the 351 cause they are easy to build according to what I've read (besides what you just told me, lol) and there are parts easily available. a 455 would be a bit too much a waste of gas, which is why I asked about the diesel, and yeah it would be a daily driver |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 5447 Registered: Nov-05 | once you start modding a motor gas should not be an issue.. even the highly modded hondas don't get great mileage lol the diesel setup has a bigger potential .. how about a motorswap out of a newer f350.. do some banks turbo equipment and propane injection if your not too knowledgable and will be doing the work yourself.. stick to a non-boosted car.. in your case the 351.. or better yet a 391 if you can find one and want to stick to a smallblock chad, thats ok haha |
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Bronze Member Username: BrewskyPrince george, British colu... Canada Post Number: 45 Registered: Aug-08 | i wanna buy a turbo and intercooler for my 240sx |
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Gold Member Username: JtownTexas Post Number: 3163 Registered: Mar-07 | well what I wanted to eventually do is modify the diesel to bio diesel and then turbo charge it. (go green with power). I don't really intend to "build" the actual engine, just add on performance parts to it. if I went with the 351 I would prob leave it uncharged. |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 5449 Registered: Nov-05 | doing a diesel swap might be more of a hassle than its worth.. ever consider selling the truck and getting one thats already a diesel? otherwise i'd stick with your 351 idea |
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Gold Member Username: JtownTexas Post Number: 3164 Registered: Mar-07 | don't have the truck yet, but definitely have been thinking about buying a 250 with the diesel already in it. although I'm not familiar with what engine(s) came in the 250 and up. |
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Gold Member Username: JtownTexas Post Number: 3166 Registered: Mar-07 | bump |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 22208 Registered: Oct-05 | kev after reading and researching, i think SC is the way to go for me. if i had the 4cyl accord then i can get good turbo kits but for v6 its hard. most everyone with a v6 accord is running the comptech SC. i think its the safest way to go. it won't provid alot of boost but i can still get close to 300 at the wheels. started to put money aside for it. i should have something by christmas. its a big commitment so i have to take my time. |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 22209 Registered: Oct-05 | oh and speaking of AEM, last week i installed the aem v2 cold air intake and i can feel an improvement over my previous injen cold air. also i just bought new J pipe and test pipe. taking my car in this saturday to have it changed. i was gonna do it myself but the nuts are on there too tight. |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 22210 Registered: Oct-05 | i could of gotten a nice HU or sub for the price i paid for this pipe. lol.  |
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Gold Member Username: JtownTexas Post Number: 3168 Registered: Mar-07 | better not lower that accord any further, don't want to scrape or pinch that pipe it'd be a waste on that illegal mod..lol |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 22211 Registered: Oct-05 | lol it ain't illegal if you believe that it ain't. besides the accord has 3 cats. i will be removing the 3rd cat which don't have the o2 sensor. its mainly there to reduce the exhaust sound. |
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Gold Member Username: JtownTexas Post Number: 3169 Registered: Mar-07 | if that's the case, I don't see how it is illegal, even though I'm pretty sure it is, lol... btw, what's the age limit(for cars/trucks) that you no longer have to have cats, and can just run straight pipes...i.e. don't have to pass emissions tests? |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 5452 Registered: Nov-05 | SC motors are good for power down low but a turboed motor will always pull stronger up top i'd still do a turbo.. more efficient |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 22212 Registered: Oct-05 | i don't know though kev. i know the turbo will give me better results but i have to get it custom for my car. lots of tuning on the dyno to get it right. but with the SC it basically bolts right on and give me instant power. lol. ok its not that easy but you know what i mean. comptech has superchargers made for my car and comes complete with a kit. so its alot less work. oh and i can still get a blow off valve for the supercharger. |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 22213 Registered: Oct-05 | i can't wait. either the SC or turbo. lol. i mean just look at these pics. also kev, post some pics of your engine again.   |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 5453 Registered: Nov-05 | well do you want to be like everyone else or custom :P nothing special with my motor picture wise..   |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 5454 Registered: Nov-05 | ... of course its always changing under there.. ima add some spice to it and redo some of the lines.. make it a lot cleaner |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 22214 Registered: Oct-05 | nice. have you dynoed your ride yet? what are you getting at the wheels? |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 5455 Registered: Nov-05 | not dynoed yet.. currently as it sits.. est 350WHP - 420CHP ...from the tuner.. he made the calculations lower than it showed on the pc since its an auto so on the pc it ready more than that |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 22215 Registered: Oct-05 | thats good power. i just want somewhere in the 300whp. |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 5456 Registered: Nov-05 | 300whp would put you ahead of some stock v8 cars and close to some modded |
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Gold Member Username: JtownTexas Post Number: 3170 Registered: Mar-07 | I'm thinking either 6.9L or 7.3L turbo diesel, any better suggestions Kev? Hoping it get 18 city if possible, before turbo |
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Gold Member Username: JtownTexas Post Number: 3171 Registered: Mar-07 | also, should I go fuel injected or carb? |
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Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rI compensate... Post Number: 8663 Registered: Jul-06 | "SC motors are good for power down low but a turboed motor will always pull stronger up top i'd still do a turbo.. more efficient" Yep, also, a properly sized turbo can actually put down better power down low versus a super charged engine. |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 5457 Registered: Nov-05 | thieves go with fuel injected.. either the 6.9L or 7,3L .. check banks power.. they have packages for either one of those motors |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 22216 Registered: Oct-05 | alright for the turbo looks like this is what i need. Rods- Paulter Pistons- CP Headgaskets- Cometic Headstuds- ARP (H23/F23 head studs work well for us, just need two sets) Other engine componets- Honda Oil Cooler- PermaCool Radiator- Absolute Thermostat/Switch- Mugen Plumbing- Earl's Performance/Aeromotive Turbo- Garrett GT35Rs Wastegate- Going to inspect the Tial unit we have. BOV- TBD Exhaust- Greddy Evo2 Piping- Type S Engineering Engine Management- AEM (Also investigating new Haltec unit) Axels- The Drive Shaft Shop |
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Gold Member Username: Crayola0Portage, Wisconsin Post Number: 2489 Registered: Jun-06 | wow thats a lot of stuff |
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Gold Member Username: Hittin1Lake Charles, La. United States Post Number: 1180 Registered: May-07 | big bucks... sounds nice though. |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 22217 Registered: Oct-05 | well i already have the exhaust so that will save me $900. |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 5458 Registered: Nov-05 | Damn I didn't even pay $900 for my exhaust.. $100 for my Invidia up-pipe .. $200 COBB 4" downpipe .. $165 3" exhaust all the way back .. $100 for the magnaflow tips $565 total.. and I've got a lot more to my exhaust :P ... I just snag deals so a GT35R? You do know that turbo is rated at 640hp right? if thats what you want go for it.. but on the lighter note of just 300whp.. downsize and you won't need axels/motor build.. unless you plan on running more than 8psi your bottom end should be fine the radiator and oil cooler is not needed but extra cooling is always a plus |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 5459 Registered: Nov-05 | thats another idea.. smaller turbo and add meth injection.. motor runs cooler and produces more power.. all from a cheaper setup.. you can get that AEM off ebay for $350.. im tuned off rubbing alcohol 40/60 mix so its a cheat power |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 22218 Registered: Oct-05 | well this dude in the accord forum is starting his build and those are the stuff he will be putting on his car. i was thinking, i only got one shot at this. i want to do it right the first time.   |
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Bronze Member Username: BrewskyPrince george, British colu... Canada Post Number: 71 Registered: Aug-08 | jack,chad thos are some nice rides |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 5460 Registered: Nov-05 | thats if you want to go BIG that turbo on a legacy pulled 480whp on pump gas and meth.. 540-550whp on race gas.. this is a 2.5L motor you should see similar gain but to do a GT35R on a n/a car.. its a complete rebuild of the block it would be worth it but add in your cost of labor and the smaller turbo will be a better option especially since your only seeking 300whp |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 22219 Registered: Oct-05 | alright man. i think this guy is over doing it. ima get on aim sometime and talk to you about it. bruce i wish that turboed or supercharged accord was mine lol. mine will look like that soon enough though. |
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Bronze Member Username: BrewskyPrince george, British colu... Canada Post Number: 72 Registered: Aug-08 | oh haha i wanna import something i dont know what tho i think a mercadies 500sl amg would be decent i can get the 94's-96's for under 9 grand cash under 50,000 miles my next car if not tuner done up lux with just nice clean stereo and rims and a b*tch tirebiter is automatic though the car is standard :P |
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Gold Member Username: JtownTexas Post Number: 3172 Registered: Mar-07 | Kev, could I use a similar injection kit, in addition to the turbo (and programmer, depending on the year) from banks to push 500rwhp out of that 7.3L and still use it as a reasonable daily driver? |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 5461 Registered: Nov-05 | i don't see why not.. and bruce.. get a lexus sc300 with the 1jz supra motor.. build that.. ive seen some look like street cars pulling 9sec quarters |
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Bronze Member Username: BrewskyPrince george, British colu... Canada Post Number: 73 Registered: Aug-08 | i cant find a site that has any of them but fucck there are some cheap supras skylines and rx7's tho already with thousands into motors (grulling)lol |
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Gold Member Username: JtownTexas Post Number: 3173 Registered: Mar-07 | you know what I'd like more Chad....lol |
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Silver Member Username: VisitorMiddleofnowhere, Minnesota USA Post Number: 282 Registered: Jul-07 | "Kev, could I use a similar injection kit, in addition to the turbo (and programmer, depending on the year) from banks to push 500rwhp out of that 7.3L and still use it as a reasonable daily driver?" YES. you can im getting a ford 450.. ex railroad truck, few banks bolt ons.. i freaking LOVE those truck's |
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Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rI compensate... Post Number: 8665 Registered: Jul-06 | " Rods- Paulter Pistons- CP Headgaskets- Cometic Headstuds- ARP (H23/F23 head studs work well for us, just need two sets) Other engine componets- Honda Oil Cooler- PermaCool Radiator- Absolute Thermostat/Switch- Mugen Plumbing- Earl's Performance/Aeromotive Turbo- Garrett GT35Rs Wastegate- Going to inspect the Tial unit we have. BOV- TBD Exhaust- Greddy Evo2 Piping- Type S Engineering Engine Management- AEM (Also investigating new Haltec unit) Axels- The Drive Shaft Shop " Chad, that's basically a full engine build on the bottom end. That's going to cost you a lot of money FYI. Oh and it's Pauter rods not "Paulter". http://www.pauter.com/ |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 5463 Registered: Nov-05 | ^^ thats what I was saying.. hence the suggestion of a smaller size turbo and running max 8psi i couldn't run 8psi.. just love the effect of hitting 10psi then meth kicks in and jumps to 23psi.. until i get a bigger intake i can't run any more boost a full engine build and that turbo would be a dangerous car to mess with for sure.. just lots of monies |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 5464 Registered: Nov-05 | chad this is for you..  |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 22220 Registered: Oct-05 | nice. did you just get those? also how do you adjust the damper on those? is it easy to get to? like do you have to remove the wheels to do it? |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 5465 Registered: Nov-05 | No clue.. paid for them yes.. guy is trading in his LGT.. hes local but still a good 1-2hr drive so I've yet to pick them up I saw him last weekend at the big subie part while my meth was getting tuned my car might be too low on max height settings |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 22221 Registered: Oct-05 | "my car might be too low on max height settings :-(" slam that bish. slammed ftw!!!! btw your car is awd right? |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 5466 Registered: Nov-05 | yes, every subie made is awd unless altered for me to slam my car i'd have to get some wheels with less offset or tow it in nasty i might rub with it set on max.. k-sports can really drop a car |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 22222 Registered: Oct-05 | yeah k sport dumps your car like nothing man. that is why i want those. i am so jealous now. run some neg camber. i know the tires will wear faster and uneven but around corners it will handle better. |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 5467 Registered: Nov-05 | heres a stocker with some ks.. not sure how far he has it adjusted http://a941.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/52/l_9161f3db9a327ea79e82825148717 7b4.jpg |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 22223 Registered: Oct-05 | i'd slam it more. lol. it looks good though. |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 5468 Registered: Nov-05 | roads are too rough in texas |
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Gold Member Username: JtownTexas Post Number: 3174 Registered: Mar-07 | especially in dallas neighborhoods |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 5469 Registered: Nov-05 | yea.. since i live in the DFW and go to dallas sometimes.. slamming would be a bad idea lol fort worth roads suck too |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 22224 Registered: Oct-05 | kev check out this guy's accord. i kinda think he over-did it. http://gen7accord.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8619 |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 5472 Registered: Nov-05 | not really overkill.. seems like he just wanted to build a show car now if its a daily driver, yeah thats dumb but my mod list grows and grows so idk its just an addiction it is funny how hes got all that done and he goes to school with no money? |
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Gold Member Username: JtownTexas Post Number: 3175 Registered: Mar-07 | I think I will do coil overs, thanks chad, I just have to find out who carries them for a 94-97 f250/350 |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 22230 Registered: Oct-05 | i can't decide kevin. lol. supercharger or turbo lol. just listen to the sound. whine vs spool. they both have awesome sound. SUPERCHARGER. TURBO |
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Gold Member Username: JtownTexas Post Number: 3189 Registered: Mar-07 | I'd have to say the accord sounds better with the turbo, IMO |
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Gold Member Username: JtownTexas Post Number: 3191 Registered: Mar-07 | btw, still waiting on those pics of your SCRATCHED test pipe |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 22232 Registered: Oct-05 | it ain't scratched. i was just gonna take pics of how low it was to the ground. lol also i kinda like the whine sound better. it sounds like a formula one car. lol. |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 5487 Registered: Nov-05 | meh.. that turbo vid is lame your not going to get the sound until it create boost and well thats not until there is a load on the motor.. not in N besides you get the nice spool/flutter from a turbo :P |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 22233 Registered: Oct-05 | that is sick man. damn. |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 22234 Registered: Oct-05 | ok this is the turbo that the guy is doing the group buy for. it sounds nice. http://s154.photobucket.com/albums/s262/joe80055/Chief%20Turbo%20Install%203/?ac tion=view¤t=Picture001-1.flv |
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Gold Member Username: JtownTexas Post Number: 3193 Registered: Mar-07 | turbo chad!!! |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 5488 Registered: Nov-05 | i should record my car for you chadly :P |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 22236 Registered: Oct-05 | do it. man but that sc whine is just too sick. really sounds like a formula one car driving down the street. post a vid of your car driving by. |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 5489 Registered: Nov-05 | tomorrow ill get the wife to shoot it |
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