well if you get some other subs, you might have to go ahead and build another box. why not step your game up and get 2 15s, that off the same power will be louder. just kinda depends on what sound you want really and if you have enough room for the 15s
With a $2000 budget, I'd go bigger, meaning more power! I think trying to find something that would be louder off 2200w would be tough without sacrificing SQ if staying with the same sub size.
You could always try a design by Pete from team toxic bass using your current subwoofers and amp. Are the lights getting dim just at idle or while driving down the road too?
well u can move up in power if you move to a more efficient amp like RD. im pretty sure you could run a 3250.1 on a 200 amp alt and kevin is having is bit RD amp sale. idk just a thought hah.
but a triple 12 set up would be good. are you looking to add another SX or would u wanna still do different subs? what about 3 12" Sonances? im pretty sure they would murder on ~2200rms
my headlights dimm while at idle and while driving. some songs at full tilt the subwoofer amp goes into protect, for low voltage i think.
sometimes you can hear the subs bottoming out, even on notes that are definitely above tuning. not sure if this is due to clipping or simply to much power but just before you can hear it bottom out it sounds clean. i think it could be because my box is slightly larger than reccomended.
Who built your alt and what kind of battery bank? If you are having those kind of issues with a 200 amp alt, something is wrong on only 2200 rms. What amp as well? What kind of car?
dude if u got 2000 for a new set of subs get 2 tc 3k's get anouther amp and like maybe 2 kinetic batteries or one gooood one i donno u should have more then enough with 2 grand dude and for size and what not you should beable to fit 15's if u can get 12's try different positions for them? facing up and what not just an idea
you cant get 3 subs to wire at 1 ohm. however kevin shouted out the 4 10" sonances... i would have to agree with that or do the 3 12" sonances. either way it will sound amazing while still getting plenty loud.
Mark, when your ready to go crazy I'll do my 4 15's AND Memphis 4kw for $2k. Theres not much hope for me being allowed to actually hook it up in the truck, so I'm going to have to unload them .
im prob gonna try 4 10's sealed or ported or 4 12's sealed what do you thin would be louder? i kinda wanna go 4 12's sealed and get some kappa perfects agian. but i dont know if it will be louder than my current setup espichally in the lowend
either that or just swap out my sx's for some q's
i suppose i could fit a single 18 but it would have to be mounted flat and i could not point the driver into the vehicle. same for 15's except i dont think i have enough trunk space all together for 2 15's without going into fiber glass
That alot of money just to get you louder and sound better when you already have a good set of subs. I would suggest as I did above you give Pete from team toxic bass a try. He charges like $60 for a design. He will know how to get you louder with what you already own and youll sound better.
i may actually have room for a ported 18 or 2 15's , i can possibly come up with 13 gross cubic feet (including the exterior of the box) but it will be tough. is it even worth trying or am i pretty much maxed out with my power limitations.
o btw i think i figured my electrical problem i was looking at how another guy did the big three and it showed on his pictures a small flat stranded wire that goes from the engine block to another peice of metal (I think that might be the "Ground").
i have my alt grounded to the engine block but i think i need to move it directly to that other metal peice, could that be the problem why my voltage drops so low or is my alternator just simply not large enough?
It could be a mixture of a number of things, including that. And with out being there at your vehicle with a DMM, no one can tell you for sure. I still suggest strongly saving some money and try a new box after you get the electrical issue fixed and upgraded.
pete still does designs people. i don't where you heard he doesn't. if anyone wants i can give out his PH number so you can call him and ask for a design. or checkout his forum a lot of smart people over there that don't try and sell their product in every thread.
i ditched the zx a while ago because i was just wasting that 5th sub channel. i am now running a sound magus cp91 its rated for 110x4 rms
yea i guess i could try a new box but what should i try. is fisher going to design me a box too be loud in my specific vehicle? i tried facing my box backwards into the trunk but it is louder forwards. port and subs into cabin
fisher makes nice boxes for a good price but i don't think he design them himself. pete designs the box to get what you want from it he takes into account cabin gain and cabin geometry to get the best out of every design.
yea thats the route im gonna go then thanks a lot guys.
just out of curiosity's, since i plan on having my sx's till they blow would it be ok to simply swap them out for q's in the future and simply drop then into my existing enclosure or are the parameters of the woofers to different.
"out for q's in the future and simply drop then into my existing enclosure or are the parameters of the woofers to different." depends on th box if its a quasi 8th order BP then no probally not a good idea but if its a regular ported then it would probally work out. if you do have pete design your box just ask him and see what he says.
Qs would not get louder than those SXs.. you have a 300M .. you can fit 15"s if you build the box right
I'd up to a bigger size.. or if it is a height issue drop in two more SX 12"s and double your power.. Ever consider a new box.. tuning higher towards 35hz? Not many songs peak on lower notes.. mostly in the high 30s through mids 40s
We've run a SS 6500D on two SX 12"s with no issues.. box might be a tad big if they are bottoming out.. either or your port area is too large not creating enough backpressure
What are the exact box specs? Everyone I've known to run the SX has never said they were not loud enough.. Sound quality wise.. run 4 SE 12"s ... SEs really wang and sound great.
the external dimensions of the box are 13.5x32x30 the net internal volume is 5 cubic feet. the port is 4.875x12 (58.5 in^2) not sure on the length i would measure if i had my car with me at school, but it tunes to 32 hz i beleive.
so even by running that much more power, by putting them in a slightly smaller enclosure they shouldnt bottom out?
yea its a slot port. i dont remember how long it is exactly but the inside wall might be something like 22". i remember it was supposed to tune to 32 hz though.
the dimensions i gave you include the port. that is the total external size of the box.
the subsonic is set to around 30 hz judging by its position its in. not sure how to know for sure.
actually in gonna go ahead and make that a confirmation on the 22 inch port length because by my calculations i get almost exactly 5 cubes accounting or bracing.
will that make it louder? i thought that bigger boxes generally meant more output?
my main problem here is lack of output i do not care so much as that my subs are bottoming out but that they are doing so and not producing enough output.
the bottoming out also occurs on some notes that definitely are not below my port tuning so im pretty sure the subsonic is not the issue.
your box is simply tuned to low if you just want output.. like i said before more songs peak on higher notes.. retune to 40hz and drop the size down to 4^3ft after displacement of subs/port
you can throw more power.. 2200rms on 2 SXs is nothing
so ive heard. before i bought tmy sx's i heard claims of them taking 1300 rms daily.
i really dont want to lower the tuning that is only going to make the subs bottom out more isint it? plus i like the way my system handles the really low notes they just make everything in the car go crazy. will the tuning really give me that muhc of an appreciable difference in output. i think if anything i would be able to notice the reduction in lowend bass over the increase in the other frequencies.
dont get my wrong my system is extremely loud i would guess around 130 db but i feel i should be able to get more out of this setup. you would think my system would destroy a pair of sealed 200 watt pioneer subs but my friends system can kind of keep up. it makes my ears hurt almost as much as my system does.
From what I thought I read others say about this type of driver I dont think they produce much output wise much above 50 hz. If thats correct moving your tuning up to 40 hz will improve the output some if your box needs help around that range. Which with your vehicle id guess it does naturally well in the low hz range but if you really want more of an idea what to do id still suggest Pete from team toxic bass I believe the guy has a degree in acoustic engineering.
im supposed to be getting a call from him some time to talk to him about sh1t.
i have somr 8" mid bass drivers that i could uses to pick up from 50hz. but i can only give them 90 watts a piece since my amp wont do 2 ohms bridged. would that be a good i deal or no.
would i be able to run my 6x9's off of my HU since i would be stealing the amp to them for the midbass drivers.
i know i should just get rid of the 6x9's all together but i like for people in the back to be able to hear the midrange a little bit.
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... SEs really wang and sound great.