I need to upgrade my car performance
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindLos Angeles, CA USA Post Number: 20649 Registered: Oct-05 | i really want to get direct port nitrous injection with stand alone fuel management. |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1323 Registered: Apr-07 | Go for it! I really want to get dual exhaust and a new tune. More for fuel mileage reasons than the added hp/torque. Nitrous can be nice if it's done good  |
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Silver Member Username: Dsmith07NC Http://com4.... Post Number: 793 Registered: Jun-06 | go for it!!! u got the v6 accord correct? |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindLos Angeles, CA USA Post Number: 20650 Registered: Oct-05 | yeah its v6 6speed manual transmission. |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinResonant Engineering..., Fort Worth... Email Post Number: 4989 Registered: Nov-05 | nos will shorten the life of your engine best bet is turbo/supercharge with a proper tune |
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Gold Member Username: Loc_outSanta Ana, Ca Resonant Eng... Post Number: 2044 Registered: Feb-05 | I second kevin. Troy get dual on your car you will love them. |
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Gold Member Username: ShortysetniesRock Vegas, NC US Post Number: 2522 Registered: Mar-06 | yeah, turbo IMO but they are both good. |
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Gold Member Username: ShortysetniesRock Vegas, NC US Post Number: 2523 Registered: Mar-06 | plus nitrous is illegal on the streets, you have to refill the tank and unless you wanna run a wide open throttle switch, you have to push a button when you want it. With a turbo you put it in and no buttons, no refilling, no legal issues plus a blow off valve just sounds so cool... |
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Gold Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 9102 Registered: Jun-04 | If I understand it right the super charger will use alot of gas and a turbo wont (as long as your not heavy on the pedal)...if thats correct turbo gets my vote and nitrous is hard on the engine I thought as well |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindLos Angeles, CA USA Post Number: 20651 Registered: Oct-05 | i want to make my accord a 10second car. |
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Gold Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 9103 Registered: Jun-04 | there's a honda crx here local thats at least 11 seconds ...hes got whatever the best motor swap is for those cars and a turbo and nitrous as well I think...but I hear he breaks stuff on the car alot |
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Silver Member Username: Hurricanebr1anWestern Burbs of Chicago, IL Usa Post Number: 478 Registered: Sep-07 | "i want to make my accord a 10second car." Setup the NOS then... |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindLos Angeles, CA USA Post Number: 20653 Registered: Oct-05 | ima be racing for pinks. |
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Gold Member Username: JkidderWorlds gunna end, In 2012 Post Number: 3510 Registered: Nov-05 | chad no way will that accord be a 10 second car. ill bet... the cisco kid |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinResonant Engineering..., Fort Worth... Email Post Number: 4991 Registered: Nov-05 | youll have to loose your car audio to make that a 10 second car.. as well as your interior and sheetmetal.. not to mention drop more under the hood than you paid for the car turbos do not use less than a supercharger on the gas question if you run the same size injectors and are running the same psi and have a GOOD tune you should see the same fuel mileage if you want to build a drag car use nos.. if you want a daily driver boost it my neighbor has a civic hatch that runs 10.7 in the quarter on slicks and 11.8 on street tires he is running a B16 boosted on 28psi.. was his daily driver for 2yrs until he dropped a valve recently.. hes now building a B18 wit ha B16 head with a larger turbo.. going to run about half the psi and expect around 600WHP.. he was making 425WHP car performance is a lot of money chad and a lot of time.. youll easily spend more on performance parts than your whole system cost you.. dyno tunes are no where near cheap .. and parts keep going up because of material costs rising |
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Gold Member Username: LoudonPost Number: 2407 Registered: Jun-04 | sounds like ur trying to live ur life through fast and the furious hahah stand alone fuel management system , not a bad way to spend 10,000 dollars - vin diesel aka dom |
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Gold Member Username: Nyyfan1315 MAG USA Post Number: 9490 Registered: Jul-06 | Almost had me? You never had me, you never had your car. |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinResonant Engineering..., Fort Worth... Email Post Number: 4992 Registered: Nov-05 |  |
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Gold Member Username: 04redmach1Lagrange, GA USA Post Number: 1843 Registered: Mar-06 | I personally like nitrous + turbo But, nitrous will not shorten the life of your engine any worse than any power adder. As long as your compression isn't high and you tune car safe, you can run her forever. Of course I am talking based on american rods. I did have a civic blow up on my dyno with nitrous, but it happens when you keep hot plugs in there lol. Oh, and turbo's are more efficient than a supercharger If you have the same car, but one with supercharger and oter with turbo wth same boost, turbo car will always win. >> My hero lol.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T3RZCI0KPo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-mASQxP0Qc&feature=related That is Tim lynch. He lives about 1 1/2 north of me. Good guys and he owns the 10.5 record. That is street legal tires he runs on. Steve Petty built and tuned his engine. Steve is the GOD of turbo stangs, maybe turbo cars period. Kevin |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindLos Angeles, CA USA Post Number: 20671 Registered: Oct-05 | lol mike i was wondering when someone was gonna catch that. lol. after i made the thread, fast and the furious came to mind. lol. nice to both kevins. lol. |
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Gold Member Username: 04redmach1Lagrange, GA USA Post Number: 1845 Registered: Mar-06 | Here is another piece of eye candy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z99ATnN_q5E Notice the turbo cobra spinning, that's why it took a second Kevin |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindLos Angeles, CA USA Post Number: 20673 Registered: Oct-05 | that is insane. i want a fricking turbo so badly now. if i was to get a turbo kit for my car, what other upgrades do i need to do to my engine to support it? |
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Gold Member Username: 04redmach1Lagrange, GA USA Post Number: 1846 Registered: Mar-06 | Bigger injectors, fuel rail, tune (piggy back like an AEM), and that should be fine. Just make sure your fuel system can support what you want. First thing though, check out the compression on your car. You NEED to know that. Then find out your fuel system. Let me know what they are, and I will help set you up with what you need. Kevin |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindLos Angeles, CA USA Post Number: 20675 Registered: Oct-05 | how do i find the compression of my car? |
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Gold Member Username: Big_edge_headMilwaukee, Wisconsin Post Number: 2046 Registered: Mar-07 | lol. what is that supposed to mean? |
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Gold Member Username: 04redmach1Lagrange, GA USA Post Number: 1847 Registered: Mar-06 | LOL!! You must be a weird looking fella with injector(s) lol. I bet you get all the women Kevin |
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Gold Member Username: Big_edge_headMilwaukee, Wisconsin Post Number: 2048 Registered: Mar-07 | Did you edit your post or something Chad lol. |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindLos Angeles, CA USA Post Number: 20676 Registered: Oct-05 | you can edit now? wow that's new to me. anyways steve, i am using the kx250.2 for the rear 6x9 right now and it sounds awesome. |
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Gold Member Username: Big_edge_headMilwaukee, Wisconsin Post Number: 2049 Registered: Mar-07 | nice. glad you could use it. |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindLos Angeles, CA USA Post Number: 20678 Registered: Oct-05 | yeah. at first i had it running off my hu but the sq wasn't good. as soon as i hooked up the kicker, the speakers came alive. i think ima get a dls a2 amp later though. i want all matching amps. |
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Gold Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 9112 Registered: Jun-04 | that cobra video is awesome...and the Tim lynch video...that car just hooked up and flew down the track |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinResonant Engineering..., Fort Worth... Email Post Number: 5002 Registered: Nov-05 | depends on what homes in the kit.. if your compression is too high you may want to get some thicker head gaskets to drop it a bit or run low boost you would probably be safe to run 8psi on your n/a motor.. check around and see what people are running for turbo setups on your car and read up on what they did or needed and fine out how much psi are running with what supporting mods about the fuel system, youll most likely need a higher flowing fuel pump along with what kevin said and a boost controller if the kit don't come with one.. also a fmic kit .. again unless the kit came with it.. im pretty sure theres more i just can't think about it.. been busy trying to buy a house so my mind is frazzled  oh yeah, 1 step colder spark plugs :P |
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Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rI compensate... Post Number: 7986 Registered: Jul-06 | "But, nitrous will not shorten the life of your engine any worse than any power adder." That's funny because that's exactly what I was going to post but then I read that. One really good thing to do to gain performance is what lil' Kevin mentioned and that's weight reduction. Rip apart and out the entire interior. Another good place to cut weight is on the driver to be honest. I hate having another person in my car because the extra 150-200 pounds makes me think I'm losing a lot of performance haha. Chad, you should first max out your car on bolt ons and then if you really need more power run either a supercharger or a turbo. Either form of forced induction will sometimes require an upgraded fuel delivery system, injectors, fuel rail, fuel pump and you'll need to get a chip or have your current one re-mapped. You should ditch the 19'' wheels too for some light-weight ones and maybe a carbon fiber hood and trunk? Don't forget that 60-0 is important too Upgrade those brakes! |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindLos Angeles, CA USA Post Number: 20679 Registered: Oct-05 | rob i don't got the 19inch rims anymore. i have my stock 17s back on there now. when i get new rims next month, it will be 18s so i can have more tire.   |
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Gold Member Username: 04redmach1Lagrange, GA USA Post Number: 1848 Registered: Mar-06 | If you have a 2006 3.0 V6, you have a 10 compression engine. I would recommend no more than 8 psi on stock engine with no gasket upgrades. Hopefully you have a 255 lph fuel pump. If not, you need to grab that. Try to find out what size your fuel pump is. From there you can tell if you need upgraed fuel rails. When we turbo or s/c a stang, we add fuel pump, 42 lb injectors, tune it, and let it ride. Thats with no more than 12 psi of course. Kevin |
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Gold Member Username: Sinful_systems7015 INCH WANG... Post Number: 1274 Registered: Nov-06 | I personally wouln't run nitrous, turbo, or supercharger unless there was a fully forged rotating assembly with a very good gasket designed for turbo or supercharger applications. Could get pretty pricy though, we have a V6 from a Talon in the shop right now and we just got an estemate from J&E on the pistons and they want over $1100 just for the pistons and rings. Felpro wants $270 for their best turbo gasket made for this engine. If it were me, I would look into it because the factory equipment is not meant to handle any forced induction, unless it came factory. I would also not run a turbo since I think "turbo lag" sucks and there is none with a supercharger that is run off the crank. But there is a downfall to the supercharger running off the crank meaning it will drag/slow the engine rotation but since there is no lag in power/boost, you won't even notice... Its your choice but I prefer the supercharger over turbo. I stay away from the gas/nitrous since bottle refilling or buying is a pain and expensive after a while. Stay with a turbo or supercharger after you put some work into the engine first. all-time power vs burst of power. And yes, Kevin is correct, with any power adder you need to add more fuel to the mix since you are forcing alot more air into the combustion chamber. Got to keep the air/fuel ratio correct so you don't burn it up. JMO This is what happens when you put forced induction on a stock rotating assembly http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9159219187195043576&q=mustang%20engine% 20blow%20up&hl=en |
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Gold Member Username: Sinful_systems7015 INCH WANG... Post Number: 1275 Registered: Nov-06 | "Here is another piece of eye candy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z99ATnN_q5E Notice the turbo cobra spinning, that's why it took a second Kevin" I believe that is the "turbo lag" and the reason the turbo was behind at first. I also noticed the supercharged cobra driver has a problem shifting. That car is too nice for that driver. LOL. Both were nice cars!! JMO |
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Gold Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 9125 Registered: Jun-04 | check this car out 1700 hp mild settings 8.76 1/4 mile http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IOpuGVoyCk&NR=1 1900 hp 7.99 seconds 1/4 mile world record http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBEeo6l3a6s&feature=related then this mitsubishi eclipse at a 6.94 1/4 mile http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdwCQo54kiM&feature=related |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinResonant Engineering..., Fort Worth... Email Post Number: 5008 Registered: Nov-05 | chad you should not have a big issue with turbo lag unless you use a huge turbo.. you've got a v6 so spool time should not be too bad besides the lag, anything you gain over stock is better than stock.. 7-8psi on a stock motor should be fine on the internals as long as your tune is correct your car would pull like stock until you started to boost so just imagine v-tech kicking in around 2500-3000rpm but with a lot more dramatic pull from part of my log.. RPM||PSI 1832||-10.74 1830||-10.74 1796||-10.74 1843||-5.95 2034||0.29 2258||1.74 2557||3.77 2778||7.4 3110||13.06 3519||18.14 3596||18.28 |
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Bronze Member Username: Dirtrider125Post Number: 73 Registered: Apr-07 | what r u doin with the 19s r u tryin to sell em i might grab them from u |
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Gold Member Username: 04redmach1Lagrange, GA USA Post Number: 1851 Registered: Mar-06 | Sinful, the turbos of today don't have much of a lag if you tune them right The ball bearing turbo like the T-03/04 hybrid is a nasty beech with little or no lag. As for s/c, they do have some lag as well. Go ride in a saleen or shelby, in 2nd gear when you hit 2300 rpms, she hits hard and breaks loose. It's kinda a win loose with s/c though. You can run a twin screw which is nice on bottom end but on top end will lack some, an brings ALOT of heat to the top of the engine. Centrifigul (sp) have more of a lag than any turbo tuned or not, and can not stand them. But for efficiency/power turbo will always win. As for cobras in vid, listen close on 2nd run, you will hear the tires Kevin |
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Gold Member Username: Sinful_systems7015 INCH WANG... Post Number: 1276 Registered: Nov-06 | Kevin, If you have ever driven a mustang before, you would know that in second gear on a pull, you would never get as low as 2300 RPM. If you drive it right, the rpm will never drop below 3000 which is the start of the power curve in these ford engines. I still prefer superchargers so oil lines are not necessary ike the "ball bearing turbo" you listed above. |
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Gold Member Username: Sinful_systems7015 INCH WANG... Post Number: 1277 Registered: Nov-06 | Sorry "like" not "ike" |
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Gold Member Username: 04redmach1Lagrange, GA USA Post Number: 1853 Registered: Mar-06 | I have owned ALOT of mustangs and my performance shop specialized in them Where I live we start from a dead stop at the strip though, not 2nd gear In the centrifigul supercharges as the Pro Charger P1-SC, it houses oil on the inside and needs to be changed every other oil change. As for Novi, they like for you to tap into your oil pan and run a line. I perfer running a line so every time the oil is changed, so is the s/c As for stangs I have owned: 04 Mach (my fav), 88 coupe with 408(yates heads $4K worth), 01 Saleen, couple GT's, and wifey had a few 6'ers. Ford is my game bro. Off topic but funny, we had a 06 F-250 running low 12's in the 1/4 lol. Kevin |
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