A spring break present to myself (pics)
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Silver Member Username: DuckaShelby Township, MI United States Post Number: 170 Registered: Jan-08 | Went out and got my new subs and amp over spring break. Paid $360 for 2 12" Type-r's, a 500rms amp, all the wire needed and a fused distibution block. I have two of the same amps now but did not have the time to install the second one. Still sounds absolutely amazing. It is louder and more clear than my friend's 2 12" Lightning audio Strikes with 1600rms(MA watts) running to them. I love the low notes they get and I cant wait to install the second amp over summer.    Comming this summer: -installing 2nd amp -custom built ported box |
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Silver Member Username: Drant19DUB-C, TX Post Number: 496 Registered: Aug-07 | thats a deal on all that equipment for $360. nice. get those R's in 4cubes @ 35hz. that should sound pretty loud |
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Silver Member Username: DuckaShelby Township, MI United States Post Number: 172 Registered: Jan-08 | Yeah, Im not really sure how the guy that sold em to me was able to sell for that low. I did lots of research before buying and he was able to go lower than any other place I could find online (even ebay). |
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Silver Member Username: DuckaShelby Township, MI United States Post Number: 174 Registered: Jan-08 | I also have some pics from Autoramma in Detroit (a big autoshow with mostly classic cars there that are fixed up really nice, also some of the cars from DUB were there). If anyone wants to see em I could throw em up. |
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Silver Member Username: DuckaShelby Township, MI United States Post Number: 175 Registered: Jan-08 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4HJW0BCpG0 video |
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Gold Member Username: SomedonniedudeIllinois United States Post Number: 1203 Registered: May-07 | Congrats on new equipment. Are those dual 2 or dual 4 ohm subs? The reason I ask is you might get the same power with one amp as you will with both amps. Just trying to save you some more dough, nice price tho on everything. |
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Silver Member Username: DuckaShelby Township, MI United States Post Number: 176 Registered: Jan-08 | they are dual 4ohm. Hope that means i WONT get the same power with both amps. |
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Silver Member Username: CashbyPost Number: 625 Registered: Oct-06 | does the amp do 500rms at 1 or 2 ohm..Hopefully 2 ohms, then that way you can run 500rms to each sub |
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Gold Member Username: SomedonniedudeIllinois United States Post Number: 1213 Registered: May-07 | It's a 2 channel amp, correct(pzi 2250)? That amp will put out 250w @ 2 ohms each channel, so there would be no benefit's to have both amps. You will get the same power either way. How do you have them wired up on the amp? They look to be moving decently in that movie. I would return that amp, and pick one up that does around 1000-1200w @ 1 ohm. |
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Silver Member Username: DuckaShelby Township, MI United States Post Number: 177 Registered: Jan-08 | Im gunna set it up so that each amp is hooked up to 1 subwoofer. the amp puts out about 500rms at 4ohms bridged so i figured I would run each one at 4ohms wired to 4 ohms hooked up to the 4ohm dvc sub. |
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Gold Member Username: Tatonka-[Team Audib... Post Number: 1543 Registered: Mar-07 | "so i figured I would run each one at 4ohms wired to 4 ohms hooked up to the 4ohm dvc sub." A single sub that has a d4 voice coil can only be wired to 2 or 8 ohms. Two d4ohm subs can be wired down to 1 ohm. My suggestions is get an amp that does 1200 or so @ 1 ohm. The AQ1200 is a great amp at a steal price. |
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Gold Member Username: SomedonniedudeIllinois United States Post Number: 1216 Registered: May-07 | How are the coils wired? Subs? Series or parallel? Is the amp bridged? |
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Silver Member Username: Prozack52Cincinnati, 2-D615D4 Dia... Post Number: 217 Registered: Feb-08 | gosh i hate the new line of type r's they sound terrible compared to the old school type r's anyone else agree lol |
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Gold Member Username: Stateprop486PA Post Number: 1175 Registered: Jan-08 | i agree with nick get the AQ 1200D $249 shipped cant get no better. |
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Silver Member Username: DuckaShelby Township, MI United States Post Number: 178 Registered: Jan-08 | Okay sry, I have it wired right now so that it is a 4 ohm load to both subs. I guess I will have to wire each to be at 8ohms when I put in the second amp. Does that mean that the subs will be getting less power? The amps will be bridged. Ive never heard the old type-r's so i guess ive got nothing to compair it to. |
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Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 7424 Registered: Jul-06 | Like everyone else is telling you...get a 1 ohm stable amp and call it a day. |
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Gold Member Username: Stateprop486PA Post Number: 1176 Registered: Jan-08 | kevin if i was you id go with what nick says. wire those subs to to get total 1 ohm load and run the AQ 1200D ull love it. "Two d4ohm subs can be wired down to 1 ohm. My suggestions is get an amp that does 1200 or so @ 1 ohm. The AQ1200 is a great amp at a steal price." |
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Silver Member Username: DuckaShelby Township, MI United States Post Number: 179 Registered: Jan-08 | Alright I'll have to work up some cash now lol. |
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Silver Member Username: DuckaShelby Township, MI United States Post Number: 180 Registered: Jan-08 | Hey would it be better if I got the 2ohm dvc subs instead? cuz i could probably go back and exchange |
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Gold Member Username: Stateprop486PA Post Number: 1177 Registered: Jan-08 | no because then you wouldnt be able to wire it down to 1 ohm then. when you do get the AQ 1200D you want to wire your subs parallel like the first pic below in the link. http://www.the12volt.com/caraudio/woofer_configurations.asp?Q=2&I=42 |
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Silver Member Username: DuckaShelby Township, MI United States Post Number: 181 Registered: Jan-08 | I'm not sure that im going to get the AQ mostly cuz my parents get fcuking pissed when i spend money on subwoofer sh!t... lame i know, but you know that old song by the fresh prince and DJ Jazzy Jeff Parents Just Dont Understand lol |
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Gold Member Username: Stateprop486PA Post Number: 1178 Registered: Jan-08 | lmao i feel ya, my parents are the same way...but i just dont listen n do it neways. bahaha |
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Silver Member Username: DuckaShelby Township, MI United States Post Number: 182 Registered: Jan-08 | hahaha still didnt answer the question would it work better if i got the 2ohm dvc subs instead? |
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Gold Member Username: Stateprop486PA Post Number: 1179 Registered: Jan-08 | well your not planning on getting the AQ right? whats the specs on the amp? and how are you running them each amp to each sub seperately? |
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Silver Member Username: DuckaShelby Township, MI United States Post Number: 183 Registered: Jan-08 | http://www.the12volt.com/caraudio/woofer_configurations.asp?Q=1&I=22 the second one. Yeah im not really planning on getting the AQ unless I run ino money. The amp is supposed to be 500rms at 4ohms bridged |
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Silver Member Username: DuckaShelby Township, MI United States Post Number: 184 Registered: Jan-08 | Yo State, Will that work? or anyone else i guess. |
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Gold Member Username: SomedonniedudeIllinois United States Post Number: 1218 Registered: May-07 | Yes that will work if you get the 2 ohm version wire it like that bridged on each amp, then you will get the 500w out of each amp. BUT.... here's the downside to all of this. Pulling 1000w from 2 different amps will strain your stock alternator, then throw in the factor that they are 2 channel amps (which are less efficient- require more power to run) and I don't think your electrical will handle it. I think you would be better of returning that one amp, and sell the other and use that money for 1 1000-1200 watt mono amp, and your stock electrical will handle this too. <<<Just my opinion |
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Silver Member Username: DuckaShelby Township, MI United States Post Number: 185 Registered: Jan-08 | d@mn, that sucks. Ill have to look into doin that. thanks |
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Silver Member Username: DuckaShelby Township, MI United States Post Number: 186 Registered: Jan-08 | anyone, When the sub is wired to 8 ohms instead of 4ohms does that mean that the sub will be getting about 1/2 the power it would get at 4ohms? |
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Platinum Member Username: WingmanaliveA pic is worth 1000 posts!! Post Number: 15100 Registered: Jun-06 | Yup. |
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Silver Member Username: DuckaShelby Township, MI United States Post Number: 187 Registered: Jan-08 | Wow, I'm really pissed about that. i really hope i can exchange the subs out. thanks for the help. |
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Silver Member Username: Prozack52Cincinnati, 2-D615D4 Dia... Post Number: 225 Registered: Feb-08 | look i knowsystem are very exciting but save your money and do it right get the dual 4 save up and get a mono block amp one ohm stable because if you do it the way you want your going to relize your happy with it and then going to spend more money to get it where you want it so just save up and do it right believe me i have gone through the same stuff just save up and do it right |
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Gold Member Username: Stateprop486PA Post Number: 1207 Registered: Jan-08 | yeah and if ur not sure about something alwys ask b4 going out and buying it and making a mistake. it could also save u money, time, and all the hassle you have to go through.... |
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Silver Member Username: DuckaShelby Township, MI United States Post Number: 188 Registered: Jan-08 | Yeah I think i may end up doing that now. Thanks |
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Gold Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 8558 Registered: Jun-04 | "Pulling 1000w from 2 different amps will strain your stock alternator" thats not true if the two amps had the same efficiency rating as the single mono block amplifier and the same amperage to get the power (and that can happen) |
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Silver Member Username: DuckaShelby Township, MI United States Post Number: 189 Registered: Jan-08 | What are some inexpensive mono amps that can put out 1000 or 1200rms at 1ohm? |
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Gold Member Username: SomedonniedudeIllinois United States Post Number: 1225 Registered: May-07 | If you run those amps you will take a VERY high chance of killing your battery, frying your alternator, and frying those amps. I've killed batteries before, ruined an alt, and smoked a new amp on the first 3 minuets I had it. I know for a fact your alternator won't handle, I ran a 900w from 2 different amps off the same alternator as your car has, one which was even a class D mono (more efficient), and I was getting nasty voltage drops, and that was with nothing else electrical on. Low voltage = Bad day and alot of $$$ |
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Gold Member Username: SomedonniedudeIllinois United States Post Number: 1227 Registered: May-07 | I didn't see what you posted sean (nothing above directed towards you fyi). But aren't class D amplifiers more efficient that a/b amps? And isn't 1 amp more efficient than 2? I didn't mean with any 2 amps, just the 2 amps he has vs. 1 class D. |
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Gold Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 8561 Registered: Jun-04 | what kind of vehicle does he have |
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Gold Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 8562 Registered: Jun-04 | "I didn't see what you posted sean (nothing above directed towards you fyi)" I know...you didnt say anything wrong "But aren't class D amplifiers more efficient that a/b amps? And isn't 1 amp more efficient than 2? I didn't mean with any 2 amps, just the 2 amps he has vs. 1 class D." yes class d's are more efficient but you didnt mention the classes so I didnt want him to get confused because you could get have two smaller class d's that are just as efficient as one large class d |
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Gold Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 8563 Registered: Jun-04 | crunch amps arent known to be very good anymore so it probably doesnt produce anywhere near 500 rms anyway but his sub combo isnt right for those amps anyway |
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Gold Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 8564 Registered: Jun-04 | I just found a site that says one 30 amp fuse for each of those crunch 500.2 amps so thats about 300 watts rms each amp at 30% efficiency loss |
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Gold Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 8565 Registered: Jun-04 | and thats at 4 ohms bridged |
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Silver Member Username: DuckaShelby Township, MI United States Post Number: 190 Registered: Jan-08 | I have a 1999 olds alero... if that still matters. And from the sounds of things i should go with 1 mono amp at 1 ohm... Any suggestions on amps? Im lookin for something pretty inexpensive. |
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Gold Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 8567 Registered: Jun-04 | ok looks like you have a 102 amp alternator whats your budget amount for an amp |
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Silver Member Username: DuckaShelby Township, MI United States Post Number: 191 Registered: Jan-08 | low lol... Idk probably no more than $230 if thats possible. |
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Gold Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 8568 Registered: Jun-04 | hey if you want to spend less thats cool...I want it to be what you can afford |
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Silver Member Username: DuckaShelby Township, MI United States Post Number: 192 Registered: Jan-08 | As low as possible without getting something horrible would be good. I'm just trying to find out how much prices are so when I return my amp I can pick up something for a good price. |
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Gold Member Username: SomedonniedudeIllinois United States Post Number: 1230 Registered: May-07 | Hifonics bxi1606, will most likely put out 1200-1400w rms. This could put a descent strain on your electrical, so if you don't have a volt meter already, I would get one. They are relatively cheap too. http://cgi.ebay.com/HIFONICS-BRUTUS-BXi1606D-CAR-AUDIO-AMPLIFIER-MONO-AMP_W0QQit emZ350037198891QQihZ022QQcategoryZ64570QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/HIFONICS-BXI1606D-1600-WATT-MONO-CAR-BXI-1606D-AMP-NEW_W0QQi temZ150225944868QQihZ005QQcategoryZ64570QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
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Silver Member Username: DuckaShelby Township, MI United States Post Number: 193 Registered: Jan-08 | Yeah I was looking at the 1206D Hifonics amp. The one you suggested looks better for me tho. Where can I get a volt meter? |
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Gold Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 8569 Registered: Jun-04 | im having a hard time finding an amp I like...I would look for a two channel that bridges to 4 ohms that is good quality |
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Gold Member Username: SomedonniedudeIllinois United States Post Number: 1232 Registered: May-07 | The 1206 will most likely put out around 900w rms. You can find volt meters all over ebay from $12-20 (and by volt meter I mean a battery guage). There's a few people on here that use after market ones, I don't know of any certain ones that are better than others, but they all do the same general thing. This is what I'm talking about... or something similiar http://cgi.ebay.com/3-1-2-Blue-LCD-Digital-Volt-Panel-Meter-AC-0-200V_W0QQitemZ2 80210521375QQihZ018QQcategoryZ73158QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
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Silver Member Username: DuckaShelby Township, MI United States Post Number: 194 Registered: Jan-08 | okay i think i might try the 1606D amp then. Thanks |
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Gold Member Username: SomedonniedudeIllinois United States Post Number: 1233 Registered: May-07 | Your welcome, Hope to see a new video when installed. |
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Silver Member Username: DuckaShelby Township, MI United States Post Number: 196 Registered: Jan-08 | It'll be a while but i'll be sure to put up more pics and a video when the time comes.  |
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Gold Member Username: Denali_on_22sThe kids love my rhyme... Post Number: 4790 Registered: Feb-06 | crunch?  |
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Silver Member Username: DuckaShelby Township, MI United States Post Number: 203 Registered: Jan-08 | yeah...it was cheap and when i bought the first one i didnt know much at all. Its been workin for over a year now and doesnt seem weak, but whatever im upgrading anyway. |
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