Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1065 Registered: Apr-07 | I've had some equipment laying around for a while, and my wife wants a very little bit of bass, but I figure I may as well make the most of what I have. Her car: Chevy Malibu Equipment: Alpine 9885 Alpine Type-X 12 D4 Hifonics 2006d Enclosure: ~1.5ft net tuned to 36hz with 24sqin of port. She wants a little bass, and plenty of room to put groceries. Also no wires or equipment hanging out like most drop in installs. Of course everything starts at the kitchen table: Really rough sketch- many people use a progam to get a cut sheet, but I like writing . I ran out of graph paper- but it works fine. Basically the port stretches around inside the back of the box, with the amp being mounted 'in' the box to a rack. Here's a microsoft paint thing I did real quick to show a real basic idea of what it will look like: Before anyone says anything about ventilation for the amp- it's not a concern. My wife drives 15 min each way to school or work, so I doubt she'll have any problems. This is a temporary box till she gets a new car in a few months, so I just used some old warped mdf I had in my shed. I figure there's no reason I can't use it for the light bit it'll be used. Kind of interesting to see how such ghetto stuff will turn out lol: Then my tablesaw died on me I think I'm going to buy a new one from lowes and pop this one back in the box and get my $ back. I spend thousands there a month, the people know me by name, and the saw is less than a year old- damn straight I'm not eating the cost. Not heavy duty, but great for transporting to different jobs. That's what I got done before the table saw died. I finished the cut with a circular saw and packed up for the night. I tried to use my finish nailer to get the box put together, but I had to use screws because of how warped the wood is. I left my air compressor on the wood to see if I can help get it a bit flatter. That's all today, if all goes well with the saw I'll have it finished tomarrow, with all the pics to go. Maybe have time to get it installed.. No 'glass or anything- its not a big build. Any thoughts/comments are welcome! Oh, and here's a few pics of the equipment: |
Gold Member Username: FrkkevinResonant Engineering..., Fort Worth... Email Post Number: 4509 Registered: Nov-05 | pics of the wife? |
Silver Member Username: Nickyp0219Post Number: 599 Registered: Jun-06 | not bad man, little sketched out about the bent enclosure wood, but other than that its comin along.. thanks for a normal post btw |
Gold Member Username: JakeyplaysbassClarion Hert... Post Number: 2390 Registered: Jul-05 | Used to have the same setup Troy... except 2 type X 12s. Very interesting design. Good luck with it. |
Platinum Member Username: WingmanaliveA pic is worth 1000 posts!! Post Number: 13493 Registered: Jun-06 | See the hole? Don't need a wife lol. Good stuff man. |
Gold Member Username: Naledge503Http://www.LowDownForu... Post Number: 3055 Registered: Jun-06 | Cant wait for final pics. |
Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1066 Registered: Apr-07 | I know the way some people on this forum like to photoshop others lol. No pics of the wife |
Gold Member Username: MendonmafiaUSA Post Number: 1135 Registered: Aug-06 | damn i wish i just had a type x and a bxi2006 laying around! should be a bit more than a little bass lol. gonna sound mint. |
Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Northwest PA Post Number: 6137 Registered: Jul-06 | Wow, I really hope you're not going to mount an amplifier on a speaker box, nevermind INSIDE one |
Gold Member Username: Spivey17323Dunellen, New jersey United states Post Number: 1048 Registered: Jun-07 | CHEVY MALIBU FTMFW!!! you got a cool asz wife lol |
Gold Member Username: Snarl2004Digital Design 9515, Massive Audi... Post Number: 2074 Registered: Dec-06 | i know type x and type r are completly different but a friend of mine has a 15" type r and it sounds great. i bet you/your wife will be pleased with that setup |
Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1072 Registered: Apr-07 | I really liked the X, it just isn't as loud as some other subs, but with about 1krms on it it's some nice thump. My wife will never ever use it to its potential. The Amp rack is inside the box- it's really just covered by a trim plate. Try to think of it as a 1.5ft box with an external port, with a big floor connecting the two. Then an amp rack attatched to the floor. |
Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1073 Registered: Apr-07 | So No MS, I'm not mounting an amp to a box. |
Platinum Member Username: Rovin4 10 Pioneer... Post Number: 13080 Registered: Jul-05 | should be a nice set - only thing i would have done different was tune a tad lower like 32\33\34hz ..... |
Platinum Member Username: BestmankindLos Angeles, CA Post Number: 18096 Registered: Oct-05 | your wife will have good clean bass troy. i used to have a pair of type x's also and they sounded nice. your wife is going to love you more now troy. btw is that her valentine's day gift? |
Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1075 Registered: Apr-07 | I don't want to make the port smaller, and honestly she can't tell the difference. I had a 32hz port in my tahoe for a while, but I'm switching back to 36 when I get the chance. Just preference. |
Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1076 Registered: Apr-07 | Thanks Chad, much appreciated. No, I'll be headed up to Zales or something tomarrow. I bought her diamond studs a few years ago, I'll either get her a better pair (with screw backs) and a new battery for the ESQ watch I bought her, or the Movado she was looking at. This is as much for me as her |
Platinum Member Username: BestmankindLos Angeles, CA Post Number: 18102 Registered: Oct-05 | nice. movados ftw!!!! or you can get her cartier. oh i c so its mainly when you are driving that car. lol. |
Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1078 Registered: Apr-07 | ^ You read my mind lol. Yeah, I love movado- I bought this watch a few years ago because it's really thin, and the leather band feels great. Nice dress-up watch without having so much bling as to be distracting. I wear it for weddings/funerals and such. |
Platinum Member Username: BestmankindLos Angeles, CA Post Number: 18105 Registered: Oct-05 | yeah i like movado watches. its got that signature diamond at the top. lol. |
Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1081 Registered: Apr-07 | Okay, more updates. I hope to have this finished today, I had to go to Lowes and some other things, only got a little more work in so far. Then I had to set up the new table saw and all that. Being right on every cut, priceless: I love using a tablesaw. Just getting all the pieces cut. And finishing assembling the 'box' portion. A note to anyone not using good wood: go buy good stuff! This wood splits really bad, so every pic that has a clamp in it is where even though it's been predrilled it splits. With some glue and a clamp it's fixable, but really time consuming. Starting the port And getting ready to put it in place. Like I said, the wood is so warped I'm using screws and I forgot how much longer that takes than finish nails. Each screw is literally bending the wood back where it should be. And about to attatch it: Thats where I am now. Just to put the top on, cut the hole, cut the hole for the cover, and put the 'amp rack' part in. |
Gold Member Username: DrivingrecklessDD 9515f, 148.2 db Mov... Post Number: 5427 Registered: Apr-06 | its a me marrriiooo.... nice build. |
Gold Member Username: JtownTeam RD, Texas Post Number: 2155 Registered: Mar-07 | look at that massive water stain....lol |
Gold Member Username: Big_edge_headMilwaukee, Wisconsin MY SUBS GET ... Post Number: 1432 Registered: Mar-07 | looks nice. i thought you said you were trying to build a small box to save room for groceries. that thing looks big lol. |
Platinum Member Username: Rovin4 10 Pioneer... Post Number: 13093 Registered: Jul-05 | .......... |
Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1082 Registered: Apr-07 | It's small relative to the trunk lol. I cut the worst of the water stain off, but it was sitting on concrete in a semi-open carport. Thanks driving. Gotta love mario. On to pics. Had to sand out a few of those lumps from the warped wood after attatching the port, and caulk the hard to reach places before they become impossible to reach places: You wont see anything but the equipment and the port opening, so the excess glue is just a plus and less when it comes to sealing things tight to me. The product so far: I'm putting a 3/4 round on the trim panel so no need on the port. I had a bit to sand, but it'll be good once a bit of bracing brings things together. I went to Walmart to buy carpet and they're out, so I guess I'll be going to a car audio shop for some soon. Also, if anyone does this kind of work often, or just works in semi-dimly lit places, these lights are awesome. Worth every penny. |
Gold Member Username: MendonmafiaUSA Post Number: 1165 Registered: Aug-06 | Very nice looking box! mad props. and yes halogen work lights FTW!! |
Gold Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 7969 Registered: Jun-04 | an external port without it being external...i like it good work on the box too Troy |
Silver Member Username: BonhamdNorthern, Michigan USA Post Number: 255 Registered: Nov-07 | that looks very nice |
Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1083 Registered: Apr-07 | Stavenmist316- one or two more for you This compares my wifes entire box to my port, which is why I say it's small: Cutting the holes for the sub, and the trim plate. There's still dust in them, so dont mind the rough looking edges: Router ftw. I will never cut another sub hole with a jig saw, it's just too time consuming and this works sooo good. I think the minimum hole size is 10", but it goes up to 40-some. Just test fitting the equipment (no I don't plan on screwing the amp into the port, it will have an amp rack). And the baffle And after cutting the port out, a nice 3/4 round on the beauty panel: I talked to my wife earlier and she really doesn't want the amp displayed like I originally planned. Neither of us like neons (the amp is lit up blue like that). Atleast I have a nice place to hide the amp so there's no wires hanging out. So tomarrow I carpet with black carpet (generic, nothing custom about it) and throw it in hopefully. |
Bronze Member Username: Alex_smithPost Number: 54 Registered: Sep-07 | good build troy. how are those alts coming? |
Gold Member Username: MendonmafiaUSA Post Number: 1188 Registered: Aug-06 | what if you blow a fuse on the amp?!?!?! |
Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1084 Registered: Apr-07 | They're slow going. I was sure I'd have them by now, but with work being sort of slow and trying to fix up my house money is going towards where I'm living instead of what I'm driving- you know? Also I've been taking a ton of time off of work to visit my dad, the doctors are now giving him < a month to live, so I want to be with him. Colby can tell you about my recent sig sauer .40 purchase too, that sucked up a good 2 alts worth. |
Gold Member Username: Big_edge_headMilwaukee, Wisconsin MY SUBS GET ... Post Number: 1466 Registered: Mar-07 | it still looks big to me |
Bronze Member Username: Alex_smithPost Number: 55 Registered: Sep-07 | word. i wish you and your family best of luck ill be sure to talk to colby |
Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1085 Registered: Apr-07 | Just chiiiillllll mark. Take a breath lol. It's OK, the trim panel will be attatch with screws w/ button caps so it'll be only a few screws away from checking. I can guarantee short of wires coming loose my wife won't be popping fuses. If I remember correctly this amp doesn't have any internal fusing, so I wont' even have to do that, just pop the hood. |
Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1086 Registered: Apr-07 | Thanks a lot man. If you like shooting I'll see if you want to go next time I go. Me and my bro go to a farm my parents own (~100 acres in the boonies) so there's no range fees or anything. |
Bronze Member Username: Alex_smithPost Number: 56 Registered: Sep-07 | im down. but as dumb as this sounds youd probly have to come meet my dad so he knows your not a dumbazz (which i know) but he is really anti-firearm for his own reasons so i dont know how he would feel about it. but weve been with colby and his dad a couple times so idk. but yeah if you can talk to colby ill talk to him about it. or whatever works for you |
Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1087 Registered: Apr-07 | Colby said it's cool- he might go next time we go shooting. I don't know if Colbys parents like me, but they're really nice folks, so maybe they know I'm not some weirdo by now. (off topic, but doesn't he have a really nice house?) I've been driving and shooting for as long as I remember, I remember when I was too little for a b-b gun I had bows and arrows. It's no problem meeting parents though. |
Bronze Member Username: Alex_smithPost Number: 57 Registered: Sep-07 | yeah its just him being dad you know. hes a nice guy and i dont see any reason why he would like you. if he wants to ill tell him to talk colbys parents so he can get their input but they seemed to warm up to you quite well also. and yeah he has a nice house. his dad is the best dermatologist around. he just bought himself an 06 bmw 750Li. but we live right across the street from each other. and i wouldnt really call my house small either(no brag) but yeah i mean id like to go but hes really the only thing that might get in the way |
Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1088 Registered: Apr-07 | I love the 750. I didn't know he was a dermatologist, ddamn. I live in downtown conway, and while my house is about 2500 sqft and still needs tons of work, it's MY house, and I'm about 20 years younger than any of my neighbors, so I figure I'm alright. I love the houses in your neighborhood though, they're just... looming and massive to some extent. My parents own a house on the channel in mt gilead, and some of those out there are just gorgeous. (I'm a realtor if it isn't showing lol). |
Bronze Member Username: Alex_smithPost Number: 58 Registered: Sep-07 | yeah after me and colby figured that out we stopped wondering how you could make enough money off of doing handy work to pay for your system and all the work your doing to your house. we didnt know you were a realtor. but for just you and your wife im sure that house is more than enough room. and yeah the 750 is crazy. we havent convinced him to let us put two type r's in it yet but we will |
Bronze Member Username: Prozack52Cincinnati, 2-D615D4 Dia... Post Number: 53 Registered: Feb-08 | nice enclosure looks good |
Platinum Member Username: Rovin4 10 Pioneer... Post Number: 13109 Registered: Jul-05 | looking good so far but where r the vent\fan holes for the amp ... |
Silver Member Username: Surferdude9371Im BTL Bumpin Post Number: 646 Registered: Mar-07 | great looking box man |
Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1089 Registered: Apr-07 | From one of my first, if not my first post: "Before anyone says anything about ventilation for the amp- it's not a concern. My wife drives 15 min each way to school or work, so I doubt she'll have any problems. " I plan on putting a hole in the back, but I guarantee she will have no problems. |
Platinum Member Username: Rovin4 10 Pioneer... Post Number: 13111 Registered: Jul-05 | ooh i read that but forgot about it ......ya would be good to still have a hole .... |
Gold Member Username: Tatonka-[Team Audib... Post Number: 1430 Registered: Mar-07 | Nice work Troy. Here's an idea. Taking that trim panel on and off to tune the amp will be a b*tch. If I were you, I'd mount the amp sideways and cut a square so that the tuning knobs are seen and flush mounted with the box. Kind of like your original idea, except you can tune the amp from the outside of box. |
Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1090 Registered: Apr-07 | Thanks nick, but I planned on tuning the amp before I put the panel on. The extra 3/4" of port won't make much of an audible difference, especially since most of that is flare. Should be a set-it-and-forget-it type deal. |
Gold Member Username: MendonmafiaUSA Post Number: 1190 Registered: Aug-06 | o tru that i didnt realize you werent going to glue it. so technically your box is only a single baffel with a trim panel then. |
Gold Member Username: Nyyfan1315 MAG USA Post Number: 8410 Registered: Jul-06 | Looks good Troy |
Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1092 Registered: Apr-07 | No pics because it was so late, but I bought some charcoal carpet today, and painted the port black. That's all the time I've had- maybe I'll get some more work done tomarrow. |
Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1094 Registered: Apr-07 | Painting the port and around the sub opening: The Bracing/amp rack begining The amp had no means of attatching it?! normally there are places to screw in, but there was nothing on the amp, or in the box (and I bought it new). Had to get a little creative. Heres the platform for the amp Putting the platform in place, it has plenty of room on all sides for the air to circulate. Theres a pic of the block holding it in place at the top. closeup of the block and how snug it holds the amp The block in question Coming together, I got the hole cut for the logo to show through A bit closer shot Of course a 3/4 round over Test fitting with the amp in place Carpeting the box And the trim plate And all carpeted And with the sub sat in to test fit Still have to screw the trim plate in, but I'm waiting to hook up all the wires and test everything. Then I'll have to tune the amp too, so just sitting it on for now. Wiring it up. It's so simple, those jumpers really make for a clean appearance. Screwing it in place and putting the rubber cover on. Kind of unique, not many subs do anything fancy, I'm sure that's why my wife likes it lol. Everyones worried about ventilation. 2.5" holes let some air in and make running wires to the amp easy. And in the trunk I ran all the wires, but I ran out of 4 guage fuse holders. I'm a ground and a power wire away from having this up and running as long as everything else is hooked up correctly. Testing it out and metering it friday. |
Gold Member Username: Big_edge_headMilwaukee, Wisconsin MY SUBS GET ... Post Number: 1482 Registered: Mar-07 | wow. that turned out very nice. looks nice and clean. |
Silver Member Username: Philly306I get higher golf scor..., North carolina Post Number: 888 Registered: Apr-07 | WOW |
Platinum Member Username: WingmanaliveA pic is worth 1000 posts!! Post Number: 13763 Registered: Jun-06 | THAT is very nice. All that work for a temp box? Wow. Take a pic with the hifonics lit up. I know you don't like it but damn that's nice. |
Silver Member Username: Snowball123West Allis, WI United States Post Number: 324 Registered: Oct-07 | thats so sweet. you should build a box for me. haha jk. |
Platinum Member Username: Chaunb3400Huntsville, Alabama U.S. Post Number: 13855 Registered: Jul-05 | very,very nice |
Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1096 Registered: Apr-07 | Thanks. It sounds pretty good, I don't know how to compare it because of what I listen to in my vehicle. It's a nice sounding setup, it really likes the lows, it eats them up, but you've got to figure its a lucky 1k watts off a stock electrical system, on an SQ sub. On overall loudness it's not particularly impressive, but again compared to the size of the setups I normally listen to I just don't know what to expect. It was much louder in my yukon though. Anyway, it's nothing overwhelming for my wife, but it's a nice bit of thump when I'm in there ;) I'm glad I went ahead and cut that hole for the amp like I originally planned, it does look pretty nice to see that hifonics lit up. I took a pic but it's daylight so now you can't see it that well. I'll try to snap one tonight. |
Gold Member Username: Spivey17323Dunellen, New jersey 15 inch Alph... Post Number: 1174 Registered: Jun-07 | get a little vid goin bud.. box looks very nice man. good job |
Silver Member Username: BonhamdNorthern, Michigan USA Post Number: 326 Registered: Nov-07 | looks very good sir |
Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1097 Registered: Apr-07 | I'll see if I can get one later, it's raining now Also the vehicle itself doesn't flex like crazy or anything, just the mirror moves a lot and the stuff in the cup holder moves pretty good. I'll see if I can get one though. To me it just does an awesome job of sounding good- complementing w/out drowning out the music. |
Silver Member Username: Kingandsons07Lincoln, Nebraska U.S.A Post Number: 669 Registered: Feb-07 | good and clean i like it |
Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1102 Registered: Apr-07 | Okay, final updates until I meter it. Here's a shot of how much trunk space she has: And a few of it lit up at night. It's very hard to capture, but it gives a general idea: |
Silver Member Username: Surferdude9371Im BTL Bumpin Post Number: 673 Registered: Mar-07 | looks sweet man i love it great job. hope you got a little something "special" for all your work from the wife |
Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1103 Registered: Apr-07 | yeah, she told me it was too loud and asked how to turn it down lol. j/p, we haven't been married for a year yet, so I get attention like a puppy in a sorority house . |
Gold Member Username: MendonmafiaUSA Post Number: 1239 Registered: Aug-06 | WOW!!!!! |
Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1112 Registered: Apr-07 | Thanks. |
Silver Member Username: BonhamdNorthern, Michigan USA Post Number: 359 Registered: Nov-07 | haha - attention like a puppy in a sorority house - cant beat that |
Gold Member Username: camBC Canada Post Number: 1971 Registered: Nov-06 | Awesome job, man. That's really good. |
Silver Member Username: Kingandsons07Lincoln, Nebraska U.S.A Post Number: 701 Registered: Feb-07 | now are there any vid's? |
Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1113 Registered: Apr-07 | No, I haven't had a chance to drive her car again. I was able to change back from my 32hz port to my 36 in my vehicle though, and I have to say I like it much much better. As far as her setup though, I just haven't had time. Friday for sure then. |
Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 6953 Registered: Jul-06 | Looks great Troy. Keep up the awesome installs. |
Silver Member Username: Stateprop486PA Post Number: 523 Registered: Jan-08 | that looks hot bro!! nice job. looks very clean... |
Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1127 Registered: Apr-07 | Okay, here's the meter pics: Sealed dash Sealed kick It hit 39-39.1 as long as I played with it on the dash, so I'm fine with that. Like I said, it's a single 12 on 1krms in a trunk- I'm fine with it. |
Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1128 Registered: Apr-07 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbLj2uglTuM a bit of jeezy |
Gold Member Username: Spivey17323Dunellen, New jersey 15 inch Alph... Post Number: 1273 Registered: Jun-07 | troy what year is your wifes malibu? |
Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1130 Registered: Apr-07 | 98 I believe. |
Silver Member Username: Kpa2727Post Number: 954 Registered: May-07 | troy up to u if u get hifonics involved but theres suppose to be crom trinm with 4 holes on that amp u can kind of see them in my older vid here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzekJryotLE btw very very nice build i'd love to do that if i had the space , beautiful job though. |
Gold Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 8120 Registered: Jun-04 | now i see why the wife said its a bit loud ...139.1 not bad |
Silver Member Username: TreezPost Number: 283 Registered: Aug-06 | An excellent set-up...Great going Troy.. |
Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1133 Registered: Apr-07 | Thanks guys. Not worried about the clips any more. The other 2006d I had already had them attatched, but this didn't have any. In place really good now though, so no worries. |
Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1134 Registered: Apr-07 | ^ My bro is talking about selling his 12" BL to go to a BTL. I'm going to see if I can't swap out the subs and see how the BL at 1 ohm does. I don't want to count my chickens, but I'd love to see it bassrace a 139.9. |
Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1139 Registered: Apr-07 | I'm just bumping this up so my friend can read this post without digging too long. |