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Gold Member Username: Denali_on_22sYou can call me Scroog... Post Number: 3483 Registered: Feb-06 | Okay. My friend has 3 grand to spend on a system for his 2008 Mustang. He wants a ridiculous SQ system that has a lot of guts. He wants it to be loud when he wants to it, but he wants to have sound quality at all times. He needs components, HU, wiring, sub(s), and installation. He is getting the install done professionally because he has to, but let me hear some ideas on what you think should be done. Thanks boys. Oh yeah, He can use Ebay. |
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Gold Member Username: JakeyplaysbassASU Post Number: 2303 Registered: Jul-05 | Are we upgrading the alt. or no? |
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Gold Member Username: JakeyplaysbassASU Post Number: 2304 Registered: Jul-05 | No new alt... Speakers- Hertz Hi-Energy 3way $500 Amp- Audison LRX 2.250 $370 Subs- (2) Image Dynamic IDQ 12s $500 Amp- Audison LRX 1.400 $340 Battery- Kinetik HC1400 $230 That would leave around 1000 bucks for a HU, wires, install. |
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Gold Member Username: RideredderCornell, IL USA Post Number: 1278 Registered: Sep-05 | "He is getting the install done professionally because he has to" Why? It wasn't hard at all to put a stereo in my Mustang. https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/car-audio/383236.html He can get the pdf from crutchfield that tells you everything. |
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Gold Member Username: Denali_on_22sYou can call me Scroog... Post Number: 3484 Registered: Feb-06 | well he wants a really nice custom install... jake... i like where your head is at, but i think he will wan more SPL than that... got any more suggestions... i will ay he wants 60/40, SPL/SQ |
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Gold Member Username: JakeyplaysbassASU Post Number: 2305 Registered: Jul-05 | You could change the subs around but if you put anymore power youll have to upgrade the alt and what not. If the shop is going to do anything custom he better be ready to pay at least 500 bucks. At least around here you would have to... |
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Gold Member Username: MgbcsLincoln, Nebraska Post Number: 2005 Registered: Dec-06 | "Are we upgrading the alt. or no?" That was never answered and would help tremendously. All I know is I wish I had that much money for an install. |
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Gold Member Username: RideredderCornell, IL USA Post Number: 1279 Registered: Sep-05 | http://akamaipix.crutchfield.com/graphics/download/sample_0190011-a.pdf |
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Gold Member Username: Denali_on_22sYou can call me Scroog... Post Number: 3485 Registered: Feb-06 | upgraded alt is possible... i think he really wants 1 12 or 1 15 in the back... so throw me a bone off that... |
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Gold Member Username: RideredderCornell, IL USA Post Number: 1280 Registered: Sep-05 | I have that 12" Soundsplinter RL-s that I just bought off of Chad. If your friend has any parts for the Mustang, or other stuff to trade, let me know. |
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Silver Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 976 Registered: Apr-07 | speakers- Those Hz 3way for $500 sound good speaker amp- http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Rockford-Fosgate-Power-T600-2-2-Channel-Amplifier -Slim_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ38638QQihZ010QQitemZ200189013726QQrdZ1QQsspagen ameZWDVW Rockford 600.2- a little more power than he'd need but it leaves room for flexibility $340 shipped (or a sundown 100.2 would match the amps if he's going for show as well, and bridged at 4 ohms would give him tons of power. sub- Fi car audio Q 15 with BP option- $319 sub amp- Sundown 1500 - MSRP $599, but you know you can find them cheaper. OR heres an MD3d for 300 shipped: http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=13437 WAYY more power than he'll need, but for the price why not run it at 2 ohms on that Q? |
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Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 6472 Registered: Jul-06 | "He wants a ridiculous SQ system that has a lot of guts." He needs more money IMO. Considering a set of ridiculous components is easily over $1000. |
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Platinum Member Username: BestmankindIM THE REAL SLIM SHADY Post Number: 16715 Registered: Oct-05 | 12w7 in a ho box.......$900 jl 1000/1v2............$700 jl 300/2v2.............$300 JL Audio ZR650-CSi.....$450 total..................$2350 |
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Platinum Member Username: BestmankindIM THE REAL SLIM SHADY Post Number: 16716 Registered: Oct-05 | ^^^^^^that system will even WOW the noobs that don't know too much about car audio. lol. its jl audio. its world famous. lol. |
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Gold Member Username: JakeyplaysbassASU Post Number: 2306 Registered: Jul-05 | "^^^^^^that system will even WOW the noobs that don't know too much about car audio. lol. its jl audio. its world famous. lol" haha. I guess i had the wrong idea when i read your explanation of what he wanted... You made it sound like he wants more SQ than SPL. Try and find a 9512 on ebay or other forums and continue from there. |
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Gold Member Username: Skibum12189Cleveland Post Number: 2370 Registered: Mar-06 | 2 JL 300/2's 2 DIamond S600s Comp Sets 1 JL 1000/1 2 ported 13w6's Premier 790, 980, or 880 Kicker PKD1 along with sweet rca's |
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Gold Member Username: Denali_on_22sYou can call me Scroog... Post Number: 3486 Registered: Feb-06 | okay well i was a little drunk last night i didn't explain it very well... i understand "ridiculous SQ" is a little out of the question. he wants some 60/40 SPL/SQ... he wants it to thump, but still sound good. the guy doesn't know much and he pretty much only listens to rap so finding good SQ subs for rap isn't that hard. I don't wanna go with generic sh!t for him, but if thats the case then i could recommend that... Mark, he has no parts, he's getting the car in next week. I think he will want to keep his stock alt. Batteries are a go. |
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Gold Member Username: Mike11202DD9515G VFL 200.1 = : , Sewell, NJ US Post Number: 1197 Registered: Nov-06 | JBL BPX 2200.1 $350 + ship on ca.com (2) JBL GTi 10's $450 shipped ebay JBL 660GTI 6.5"2-Way Competition Components $999 http://www.audio-warehouse.com/web/mdl/660GTI/detail.asp JL Audio 300/2V2 $350 local dealer $2150 Your not gonna get any better than this, it will blow ANYTHING in this price range straight out of the f****ng water The JBL Components are SQ competition winner Quality, the JBL Gti's get loud and are some the of the best sounding subs available on the market. /thread |
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Gold Member Username: Mike11202DD9515G VFL 200.1 = : , Sewell, NJ US Post Number: 1198 Registered: Nov-06 | Oh yeah and head-unit ALPINE CDA-9887 $309 shipped |
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Gold Member Username: JakeyplaysbassASU Post Number: 2309 Registered: Jul-05 | "Your not gonna get any better than this, it will blow ANYTHING in this price range straight out of the f****ng water" ...ehh... In that price range you could get Dynaudio, Rainbow, DLS, CDT, Hertz, Morel, and Boston Acoustics that I would rather get than those JBLs...And yes I've heard the 660s and and the 560s. Good but not the best. I do like the GTi subs tho, ive only heard the 12s...not 10s. |
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Platinum Member Username: BestmankindIM THE REAL SLIM SHADY Post Number: 16733 Registered: Oct-05 | get the damn $2500 focal utopias and call it a day. hahaha. |
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Silver Member Username: MarcoooPost Number: 193 Registered: Mar-07 | If your not gettin a HO alt I'd save my money and stick with the regular battery... And if you want SQ only get one set of comps for the front |
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Silver Member Username: Drant19DUB-C, TX Post Number: 160 Registered: Aug-07 | ^x2 but no amp, just run them off the headunit |
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Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 6477 Registered: Jul-06 | Check the for sale thread Reece there's a few things your buddy can use there. |
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Silver Member Username: Drant19DUB-C, TX Post Number: 161 Registered: Aug-07 | mark u messed up my post...jerk jk |
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Gold Member Username: Denali_on_22sYou can call me Scroog... Post Number: 3487 Registered: Feb-06 | Well, now he's saying in wants a double DIN DVD unit. Some things might have to take a hit. I kind of like the idea of the JBL Gti for the sub stage. I've heard the JBLs and they sound nice and have pretty good output, but he could only run one, or he would need some extra batteries. He is probably a lot less picky than me, so I'm trying to come up with something that would be decently loud and have pretty good SQ considering he wants a double din unit now now. |
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Gold Member Username: JakeyplaysbassASU Post Number: 2310 Registered: Jul-05 | The Clarion ddin is going for like 650 shipped at wooferetc. |
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Gold Member Username: J_baby15Murray, Kentucky Post Number: 2132 Registered: Feb-06 | Id recommend the Clarion Max675vd...I got one and love it. He'll want an EQ tho prolly, EQ settings on it aren't the best. -"He is getting the install done professionally because he has to" Good Idea, b/c being an 08 in most cases it voids most the warranty if you dont have stuff "professionally" done. But even BB and CC qualify as Professionals  |
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Gold Member Username: Mike11202DD9515G VFL 200.1 = : , Sewell, NJ US Post Number: 1200 Registered: Nov-06 | "In that price range you could get Dynaudio, Rainbow, DLS, CDT, Hertz, Morel, and Boston Acoustics that I would rather get than those JBLs...And yes I've heard the 660s and and the 560s. Good but not the best. " I've heard dynaudio, cdt, morel and boston acoustic high end sets. The JBL 660's sounded much better. Then again it could be all in the install. |
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Gold Member Username: •cam•BC Canada Post Number: 1603 Registered: Nov-06 | http://www.hexibase.com/ Talk to him. |
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Gold Member Username: Mike11202DD9515G VFL 200.1 = : , Sewell, NJ US Post Number: 1201 Registered: Nov-06 | JBL doesn't win all the SQ SQL competitions for no reason  |
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Bronze Member Username: Jones82joshuaYankton, SD USA Post Number: 35 Registered: Sep-07 | http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=18481 clarion max675 Refurbished. $459 http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=17283 New. $549 Got my 855MP through OCS Refurbed and had no problems with it. |
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Silver Member Username: MarcoooPost Number: 194 Registered: Mar-07 | Glad I could be of assistance Abarca lol There's no real point in having an upgraded/extra battery if you don't have a HO alt. The battery only stores the power, doesn't create it. I've heard some people, who know a lot, say an extra battery will help a little with dimming but even they say it hardly makes a difference. In theory it shouldn't make any difference on your battery if the one you have is in good working condition. And correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't extra batteries only useful for starting up your car and for listening when your car is off? MS knows a lot about that so I'm sure he'll back me up lol.... |
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Gold Member Username: Mike11202DD9515G VFL 200.1 = : , Sewell, NJ US Post Number: 1202 Registered: Nov-06 | "And correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't extra batteries only useful for starting up your car and for listening when your car is off?" Yep, if you don't have the power to re-charge the batteries it simply wont cut it (it will help, but your just trying to avoid the main problem - charging).. extra batteries are best put to use when the car off. |
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Silver Member Username: MarcoooPost Number: 196 Registered: Mar-07 | Thanks mike I guess you can take MS's place for now lol |
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Silver Member Username: MarcoooPost Number: 197 Registered: Mar-07 | And Reece I suggest you convince your friend to get a new alt if he wants it to get loud. I had 1000 watts, any higher and my lights most likely would've started dimming, on my Q when I had a stock alt and it sounded great and got pretty loud, but wasn't loud enough for me lol. And your comp amp won't help your alt out either. And I'm guessing the Mustang's alt will be smaller than mine, which was in the low 100's amp wise. |
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Gold Member Username: Denali_on_22sYou can call me Scroog... Post Number: 3488 Registered: Feb-06 | I'm pretty sure I know a little bit about charging... I have a 250 amp alt, but he is wanting to stick around 1500 wattts tops, and with a kinestic 1800 under the hood, he can push that with a stock alt, non-issue. but yeah, i'm still baffled as to what to recommend him. I like a lot of the ideas, but I guess I'll need to see what he thinks. I know (regardless of what I tell him) he will not like spending a lot of money on comp amps. I think he should go with a 500 0or less set of comps. 300 amp for them. 1000 for subs or less.. (probably much less). 400+ amp for them. 1000 for HU. rest for install. |
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Silver Member Username: MarcoooPost Number: 198 Registered: Mar-07 | 1500 watts on a stock Mustang alt and IMO he'll have electrical problems. And make sure that Kinetik can fit up front before you buy it. Don't know how much room Mustangs have for a battery, but the 1400 might be a better choice. |
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Gold Member Username: Denali_on_22sYou can call me Scroog... Post Number: 3489 Registered: Feb-06 | Mark, believe me i'm not incompetant about charging systems. i used to have an 05 mustang GT before I traded it in. I'm not gonna lead my man wrong, but I had 1500 watts on my stock alt (105 amps) with no problems. |
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Gold Member Username: •cam•BC Canada Post Number: 1608 Registered: Nov-06 | If he wants to spend $3k, he might as well do it right and get an enclosure designed for his car. JMO, but you know. http://hexibase.com |
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Silver Member Username: MarcoooPost Number: 199 Registered: Mar-07 | Alright man it's your friend's car just sayin, the first week I had my Q in my lights were dimming because the shop I went to set the gains really high, it was clean power though, and I have no idea how much power was going to it, but I'd guess 1500-1700 watts. Not sure how many amps my stock alt was, 03 Ford Escape, but I'm guessing 100-125. Never went to that shop again btw. They went out of business a month later. I mean 250 (db electrical on eBay if they make a HO alt for his car) - 500 doesn't seem like much to me for an alt when you got 3k to blow. Again JMO, but if your friend's dead set on a stock alt guess I'm just preaching to the choir (hope I used that right...) lol And cam any idea how much it is for one of those boxes? I was thinking about e-mailing him for a quote on a box for 2 12" Fi Q's... For the somewhat distant future lol |
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Gold Member Username: JakeyplaysbassASU Post Number: 2312 Registered: Jul-05 | "JBL doesn't win all the SQ SQL competitions for no reason" Not to be a d!ck Mike...but noone with JBL speakers finished in the top 10 at IASCA world finals in SQ. In MECA there was a few guys that placed in the top 3 in mod/mod+ but thats about it. I see more of there processors than speakers. Im not sure about the last few years tho because i just started getting into SQ comps last year. I also dont know too much about USACI comps...maybe thats where all the JBL guys hangout. Ive only been to one USACI comp ever and they only had 2 SQ competitors...haha. Not worth the drive. |
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Gold Member Username: JakeyplaysbassASU Post Number: 2314 Registered: Jul-05 | Cam, do you know how much a basic enclosures from Pete costs? Just curious... |
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Gold Member Username: Denali_on_22sYou can call me Scroog... Post Number: 3493 Registered: Feb-06 | I heard boxes from pete cost at least 300+ |
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Gold Member Username: JakeyplaysbassASU Post Number: 2315 Registered: Jul-05 | I bet. Hes pretty well known in the sub world. |
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Gold Member Username: •cam•BC Canada Post Number: 1612 Registered: Nov-06 | I really hope he gets paid well. If it's a little much, you can always buy blueprints and build it yourself; that's my plan. |
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Gold Member Username: Denali_on_22sYou can call me Scroog... Post Number: 3495 Registered: Feb-06 | Okay well I've narrowed it down to the JBL, IDMax, SI Mag, and 3515 for the sub. Up in the air on the amp. For comps I'm liking the Hertz 3-way, but I'm not sure on the amp. I'm not positive what double din to recommend though. |
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