Sonance vs Fi
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Bronze Member Username: DurskiPost Number: 64 Registered: Nov-06 | I had my heart set on a Fi.Q 15", but then LowHz told me about the tinsil problems that Fi has been having, and recommended a Sonance 15" instead. LowHz has yet to tell me which model sonance 15" and amplifier he is willing to sell me for $600, I have asked numerous times which leads me to believe he just wants to sell what ever he can make more money with. Then today I see a post about a BTL 18" with tinsil lead problems. The Fi.Q seems like a higher quality product than anything Sonance has to offer, what do you guys think? |
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Gold Member Username: Denali_on_22sYou can call me Scroog... Post Number: 3172 Registered: Feb-06 | hmm glad to see low hz has kept up it's reputation for bashing other companies... Q will be louder than a sonance and sound just as nice... i wont say it's higher quality, but i think the tinsel problems have been solved on the Fi products. I would personally go with a Q over a sonance... |
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Gold Member Username: Snarl2004Audioque 12 SD2.5s, Earthquake P... Post Number: 1898 Registered: Dec-06 | i think the Q is a higher quality product. Not too many people have the tinsil slap problem nd if you do it can be fixed with some felt and it will be good as new. I would personaly do the fi.q just my 2 cents |
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Silver Member Username: TeamrevolutionATLANTA, GA USA Post Number: 136 Registered: May-07 | I have no idea about the other product but we have Sonance @ super deals this month and we also have 15" elites around 250.00 and they handle 1000 RMS. On the Sonance in the 15" we have paper cone with 12 spoke or poly mica with the claw looking basket. I think with the promotions runnig this month you could get a 15" sonance for around 220.00 from our dealers. |
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Silver Member Username: NorthomahaPost Number: 620 Registered: Mar-06 | The Q is an awesome product, ive installed a couple and they are awesome. Ive never heard the sonaces but Ive seen and installed sever Fi subs and have had no problems with any of them |
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Gold Member Username: Livin_loudDo Work Fi Audio Post Number: 1947 Registered: Jan-06 | i've never had a single problem to date w. my sub and i run it off 1500wrms |
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Bronze Member Username: DurskiPost Number: 65 Registered: Nov-06 | Thanks for the input guys. Hey Steve, can you email me about the 2008 elite specials you have posted in another thread? 1000watthps@gmail.com |
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Silver Member Username: Kyle_lowePost Number: 661 Registered: Apr-06 | oh wait oh wait get a mag |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Northwest PA Post Number: 4168 Registered: Jul-06 | I have no experience with RD subs, but I would be very hesitant with Fi after all the tinsel lead problem which I am still seeing happen. |
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Bronze Member Username: DurskiPost Number: 67 Registered: Nov-06 | Mag? Got a Link? I'm looking for 1 bada$$ 15" SQ sub, 200$ - 300$. M.S.: You always seem to know a lot about what you're talking about, what would you suggest? BTW thinking about running this off a KX1200.1 |
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Gold Member Username: LoudonPost Number: 2029 Registered: Jun-04 | i had a q ... off a kx1200.1 ... wasnt my cup of tea.. sounded great .. if thats what ur going for then ur looking the in the right place hands down rd subs are built very well, i run an alpha now ... it sounds just as good imo .. with a substanial incline in spl |
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Silver Member Username: DenimWww.TeamSSAudio.com, MD Post Number: 501 Registered: Nov-06 | The mass majority of lead problems on Fi drivers that I have seen / read about, is the effect of the user over exerting the driver below tuning or gain adjustment error or some other user error. |
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Bronze Member Username: DurskiPost Number: 69 Registered: Nov-06 | " wasnt my cup of tea.. sounded great .. " what do you mean? Sounds like you're contradicting yourself. |
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Gold Member Username: Naledge503Http://com4.runboard.c... Post Number: 2246 Registered: Jun-06 | He's saying that they sounded great but werent what he was looking for in a system. fwiw, I love my Q's and have never had a problem with them. |
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Silver Member Username: JtownATX, Texas Post Number: 821 Registered: Mar-07 | I had an SSD for about a day and started having problems with it, I did not overexert it or anything, it just stopped producing any sound what so ever. So I had Fi build me a brand new one, and never used it, just sold it. The reason is by the time I got it, I had already been running a 12" Alpha v1 and was already in love with it. RD products are built very well, and like Mike said, the Alpha has amazing SQL, it is the best sub I have ever run,heard, and owned. Just me two pennies, I would go with RD. |
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Silver Member Username: JtownATX, Texas Post Number: 822 Registered: Mar-07 | and btw, its an RD Sonance, sonance is not the brand, if you haven't figured that out already. Steve Miller is the owner of RD, he will work with you on anything, great CS IMO! |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Northwest PA Post Number: 4169 Registered: Jul-06 | For a good SQ sub I would recommend: Soundsplinter RL-p Stereo Integrity MAG (over your budget though) and although I don't know anyone running them I hear the SSA Icon is also good. I'm actually myself trying to decide which of those subs to run in my next system. |
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Gold Member Username: Nyyfan13Fi SSD USA Post Number: 7155 Registered: Jul-06 | i agree with MS above me also, i have owned an SSD fr about 7 months now and beat on it daily...no tinsel slap |
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Gold Member Username: The_image_dynamicSan Diego Post Number: 3139 Registered: Dec-06 | SoundSplinter RL-S > All. |
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Platinum Member Username: WingmanaliveA pic is worth 1000 posts!! Post Number: 11234 Registered: Jun-06 | ***Patiently waiting for the new Mag***  |
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Gold Member Username: HdubbTeam Revolution Post Number: 2949 Registered: Nov-04 | its gonna be a great woofer paul. ***impatiently waiting for my hw v.2 and 05 xxx 12***  will both be here tomorrow if dhl and fedex dont delay my dreams any longer lol |
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Platinum Member Username: WingmanaliveA pic is worth 1000 posts!! Post Number: 11235 Registered: Jun-06 | "***impatiently waiting for my hw v.2 and 05 xxx 12*** will both be here tomorrow if dhl and fedex dont delay my dreams any longer lol" It'll come. I have 20 little fuggers coming tomorrow. Should turn me some nice extra Xmas jingle.  |
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Gold Member Username: HdubbTeam Revolution Post Number: 2950 Registered: Nov-04 | haha those eqhs? thats cool man. what you gonna do with them? |
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Platinum Member Username: WingmanaliveA pic is worth 1000 posts!! Post Number: 11236 Registered: Jun-06 | Sell them, blow them up, who knows? Lol. Naw I'll push them at my local farmer's mart. I'll get $20/pc easy. I'll keep a few just for haha's. |
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Gold Member Username: HdubbTeam Revolution Post Number: 2953 Registered: Nov-04 | haha. you should buils a huge tline box or a abc box for it and make it loud lol. or a snailshell box lol. thatd be cool |
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Platinum Member Username: WingmanaliveA pic is worth 1000 posts!! Post Number: 11237 Registered: Jun-06 | I'd feel weird spending so much time designing/building an enclosure for a $5 sub. Yet I've done crazier things lol. |
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Silver Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 829 Registered: Apr-07 | I would go with the Q. Low-Hz has a reputation for putting down other products to make a sale (kind of like the slick car dealer you know to stay away from). The Q is a solid product, and would be my first choice. Great SQ with decent SPL. |
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Silver Member Username: JtownATX, Texas Post Number: 845 Registered: Mar-07 | I haven't personally exp the Kevin these guys are talking about, but just because they feel his character isn't quite up to par, doesn't mean that RD isn't a great/solid product either. IMO you can't go wrong with RD, I love my alpha, if you are interested, keep in touch with Steve, great guy and he will work with you to get a great deal on some subs as well as a design for your enclosure if need be.. BTW, hey troy, I sent you an email, are you still interested in that Zapco? the other guy kinda backed out. |
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Gold Member Username: HdubbTeam Revolution Post Number: 2962 Registered: Nov-04 | haha. i think it would be cool though paul. i think sean(insearchofbass) needs one he loves soind those tye of box builds. wonder where he has been lately. |
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Platinum Member Username: WingmanaliveA pic is worth 1000 posts!! Post Number: 11240 Registered: Jun-06 | He's here. Good source. |
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Silver Member Username: Kyle_lowePost Number: 663 Registered: Apr-06 | in your price range, i would go with the soundsplinter rl-p http://www.soundsplinter.com/rlp12_subwoofer_information.html |
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Gold Member Username: Denali_on_22sYou can call me Scroog... Post Number: 3177 Registered: Feb-06 | i'd honestly go with some SI BMs... heard a lot of good about them, not to mention you can still buy from ya boy kevin |
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Gold Member Username: 04redmach1Columbus, GA USA Post Number: 1451 Registered: Mar-06 | Reece and Troy, I would like you guys to know that true information is not a bash but being informed about the default of a product that was asked about. If I wanted to put down the product in a false sense, then talk trash, but until then, please get off my back. Oh, and ask Nick V about his tinsel problems under regular usage and recommended RMS. Not too mention a few threads on ca.com with same issue. As for selling what I carry, guess what, I know the product I carry so therefor I know the ups and downs and what will work for the customer. Thank you, Kevin Holden Low-Hz |
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Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind-apem Post Number: 15799 Registered: Oct-05 | you would think scott would have that problem fixed by now. especially with all the complaints in various forums. also kevin and i had a long talk in the past and he is the type of person that will stand behind his product 150%. so its a win win situation when you buy his recomendations. |
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Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 5967 Registered: Jul-06 | I wouldn't call it bashing when Kevin speaks the truth.I love how people also say it was user error all the time but damn...how many noobs blow up their other subs so easily and have tinsel issues?There are lots of noobs out there and I don't hear them complaining about other subs as much as I've heard about the terrible tinsel issue with Fi subs.Ask TeamSubsGoPoof from CA.com about a wall of BTLS that took blew up lol.Either he was making it all up or someone was having a bad day at a comp.He mentioned this on AIM months ago and I found it to be pretty funny.The guy was probably pushing the subs way too hard though... |
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Gold Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 7211 Registered: Jun-04 | hunterw ..."haha. i think it would be cool though paul. i think sean(insearchofbass) needs one he loves soind those tye of box builds. wonder where he has been lately." Im here the abc box has alot of potential but needs test tuning to make it work in the enviornment your using it in. But its biggest advantage is being able to tune the sub lower than normal because of the box lowering the subs excursion. |
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Bronze Member Username: DurskiPost Number: 71 Registered: Nov-06 | oh my gawd, the RL-S looks amazing |
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Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind-apem Post Number: 15802 Registered: Oct-05 | not only does the rl-s look amazing it sounds amazing. lol. i love mine. |
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Silver Member Username: Kyle_lowePost Number: 667 Registered: Apr-06 | if you want to spend more money then go for it i havent heard one but judging from the sound and quality of the rl-p im sure it would be awesome |
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Gold Member Username: The_image_dynamicSan Diego Post Number: 3141 Registered: Dec-06 | The RL-S is much better than the RL-P. The P is slightly slow on percussive bass notes especially in the bigger sizes which makes it sound muddy in some circumnstances and it doesn't come close to the S in transient response and clarity. But then again, nothing does. And also, even though it is known as a sheer SQ subwoofer, the S has some serious kick and will surprise people with it's output and excursion. |
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Silver Member Username: DenimWww.TeamSSAudio.com, MD Post Number: 503 Registered: Nov-06 | The amount of tinsel breaks compared to amount of Fi drivers sold is not even close. So yes, the majority of them are user abuse, if it was such an issue it would have been corrected a long time ago. To believe a very accomplished driver designer/engineer, with a good history to stick with a design fault, you are only fooling your self. |
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Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 5999 Registered: Jul-06 | Posting in bold makes me better than the next guy. I won't "fool" myself, I'll just stay away from those products with issues. I run DD subs and if DD goes south and starts having problems you bet your a ss I'm going to steer people away from DD as well. I heard recently that they were having problems with open coils but they were fixing the problems and not blaming it on user error but whatever. If it's the problem is fixed cool. I wonder if I played some Funky pups out of tuning would they have tinsel slap?  |
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Silver Member Username: Mj23dynastyHarrisburg star city, Pistolvania USA Post Number: 315 Registered: Oct-07 | what the hell are funky pups?? |
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Gold Member Username: BasssquaredKansas Post Number: 1540 Registered: Nov-06 | what a noob everyone knows about funky pups :P and Rob you crack me up nigga but you made some really good points |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Northwest PA Post Number: 4222 Registered: Jul-06 |  |
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Bronze Member Username: MarcoooPost Number: 40 Registered: Mar-07 | I had tinsel lead problems with my Q and it definetly was user error. Didn't push it hard what-so-ever, my "pro" installer said he set all my settings for me and I assumed that to be all amp settings besides just the gain. Apparently I was wrong to assume. Anyways Fi re-coned it and added another spider for free, now I've had it for 2-3 weeks with all my settings correct and it works great. Oh and Scott designed my box for me the day after I e-mailed him Just my expercience with Fi. |
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Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind-apem Post Number: 15825 Registered: Oct-05 | rob is an azzhole. |
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Platinum Member Username: WingmanaliveA pic is worth 1000 posts!! Post Number: 11267 Registered: Jun-06 | "what the hell are funky pups??" The best subwoofer ever made. http://www.funkypup.tk/ |
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Gold Member Username: BasssquaredKansas Post Number: 1544 Registered: Nov-06 | chad you forgot the lol ;) |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Northwest PA Post Number: 4223 Registered: Jul-06 | Stupid forum   |
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Platinum Member Username: WingmanaliveA pic is worth 1000 posts!! Post Number: 11268 Registered: Jun-06 | Lol. Those are probably actually worth something in a nostalgic sense. If you have any.....hold onto them.  |
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Gold Member Username: Snarl2004Digital Design 9515, Massive Audi... Post Number: 1909 Registered: Dec-06 | "I heard recently that they were having problems with open coils" DD's were having problems with open coils? |
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Gold Member Username: HdubbTeam Revolution Post Number: 3000 Registered: Nov-04 | how much for funky pup? |
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Silver Member Username: Mj23dynastyHarrisburg star city, Pistolvania USA Post Number: 325 Registered: Oct-07 | lol thats funny |
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Gold Member Username: Denali_on_22sYou can call me Scroog... Post Number: 3207 Registered: Feb-06 | i wasn't bashing kevin... i like kevin alot... me and kevin emailed frequently about trying to get an install done, i'm just saying he has been known, and there is also documents of this, to slam on companies he doesn't carry, especially Fi. I agree the problems are ridiculous, but i have owned a Fi product so i can't say whether it's user error or manufacturers overrating their subs or what... |
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Gold Member Username: HdubbTeam Revolution Post Number: 3001 Registered: Nov-04 | im serious though m.s. |
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Silver Member Username: DenimWww.TeamSSAudio.com, MD Post Number: 504 Registered: Nov-06 | There are no more funky pups for sale. I still have my 4 8's BNIB. |
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Platinum Member Username: WingmanaliveA pic is worth 1000 posts!! Post Number: 11271 Registered: Jun-06 | What's your price? Seriously. |
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Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind-apem Post Number: 15826 Registered: Oct-05 | no i didn't ray. rob knows wassup. rofl. |
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Gold Member Username: HdubbTeam Revolution Post Number: 3005 Registered: Nov-04 | can you get just the dustcaps i wonder? how much denim? |
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Silver Member Username: JtownATX, Texas Post Number: 870 Registered: Mar-07 | ^^^ you would |
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Gold Member Username: HdubbTeam Revolution Post Number: 3006 Registered: Nov-04 | whatever baconator hater!!!!!! |
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Silver Member Username: JtownATX, Texas Post Number: 871 Registered: Mar-07 | sh1t sucked!!! |
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Silver Member Username: DenimWww.TeamSSAudio.com, MD Post Number: 505 Registered: Nov-06 | Not for sale, sorry, I should have said I am keeping them. I tend to collect odd audio things over the years. |
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Gold Member Username: HdubbTeam Revolution Post Number: 3019 Registered: Nov-04 | you broke ..my heart denim lol. i want a dustcap |
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Platinum Member Username: WingmanaliveA pic is worth 1000 posts!! Post Number: 11287 Registered: Jun-06 | Alright denim. Hold onto them. Be.....selfish. LOLOL. I would.  |
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Silver Member Username: VisitorMiddleofnowhere, Minnesota USA Post Number: 137 Registered: Jul-07 | "The RL-S is much better than the RL-P. The P is slightly slow on percussive bass notes especially in the bigger sizes which makes it sound muddy in some circumnstances and it doesn't come close to the S in transient response and clarity. But then again, nothing does. And also, even though it is known as a sheer SQ subwoofer, the S has some serious kick and will surprise people with it's output and excursion." I can think of several woofers that surpass the rls in most respect.. do not forget.. the rls is simply an old lmt design. a very nice woofer, though. im have nothing bad to say about it:D |
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