Gold Member Username: MgbcsLincoln, Nebraska Post Number: 1736 Registered: Dec-06 | The new production pics are out for the eD 13Av.2 - it looks beefy. I can't wait to play with one. http://www.edesignaudio.com/edv2/product_info.php?t=1&products_id=554 |
Gold Member Username: BlainewPost Number: 2706 Registered: Nov-05 | man i think that is the ugliest cone ever |
Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 5778 Registered: Jul-06 | That might as well be a 10'' sub.That surround is huge and stupid,not to mention doesn't function like a cone would.Just get yourself a 10'' DD sub and it'll perform similar if not better. |
Gold Member Username: Livin_loudDo Work Fi Audio Post Number: 1927 Registered: Jan-06 | i wanna see that vid... |
Gold Member Username: DrivingrecklessDD 9515f, 148.2 db Mov... Post Number: 4699 Registered: Apr-06 | ^ an ssumption....judging a woofer by looks :-\ |
Gold Member Username: MgbcsLincoln, Nebraska Post Number: 1737 Registered: Dec-06 | hmmm...I didn't expect to see people hating on them. They look nice to me. |
Gold Member Username: Skibum12189Cleveland Post Number: 2030 Registered: Mar-06 | looks real nice, i would consider one if it had the basic black cone with white ED on it...but then again its a little too much for me...would wanna hear one though |
Gold Member Username: MgbcsLincoln, Nebraska Post Number: 1738 Registered: Dec-06 | Well I paid about $210 for it, so I think it should be worth it. |
Gold Member Username: Extrmndor3Http://crazydbs.freefo..., ^^^NEW FORUM Post Number: 7143 Registered: Feb-06 | it looks like they copied the id max with jl audio technologies and give it some steroids and it looks like a str8t sq sub |
Silver Member Username: SkiesCourtenay, British Colu... Canada Post Number: 845 Registered: Aug-05 | Looks like a great sub man... Heavy @ss fvckin thing! You know we all expect a full review.. How much power are you gonna feed it? Rob. Look at the xmax. |
Gold Member Username: CenusOhio Post Number: 3889 Registered: Jan-05 | "That might as well be a 10'' sub.That surround is huge and stupid,not to mention doesn't function like a cone would.Just get yourself a 10'' DD sub and it'll perform similar if not better." retarded statement, have you ever seen a eclipse ti the one with a tc 3hp motor, its surrond is big yet it will easily hang with a dd3500 in spl and destroy it in sq, not saying this ED sub is great but saying its crap just by pics and becuase the "surrond is huge" is just retarded. |
Gold Member Username: camPost Number: 1062 Registered: Nov-06 | Yeah, judging from the reviews, it's pretty loud, without the cone area. Displacement takes over in the lower frequencies anyway, and it has the Xmax to make up for the cone area, and it's under hung.\ Lil Rob, you gotta find out more before you go saying it's a JL copy, he discussed that thoroughly in the blog. |
Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 5791 Registered: Jul-06 | Maybe you guys would like to read about how cone area and surrounds work? http://www.ddaudio.com/dd/caraudio/features/EROMSurround.asp Thanks guys. |
Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 5792 Registered: Jul-06 | "Rob. Look at the xmax." Just because a sub has a high xmax does not mean it will get loud. |
Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 5793 Registered: Jul-06 | ""surrond is huge" is just retarded." Good job quoting me Dustin,you made yourself look like a retard there.It's all good though. |
Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 5794 Registered: Jul-06 | In case you guys are too lazy to click the link... DIGITAL DESIGNS NEW EROM SURROUND PROFILE DIGITAL DESIGNS has developed a new surround profile to handle the ever-increasing need for cone excursion. This EXTENDED RANGE OF MOTION (EROM) profile allows for increased excursion while keeping the effective piston diameter high and wasted moving mass low. EROM surrounds combine high sensitivity with extended low frequency capability. Traditional wideboy, inner tube type surrounds allowed for some additional throw but at the expense of both effective radiating diameter and sensitivity. A 15" speaker with a wide surround uses a 12" cone body; a 12" uses a 10" cone, and so on and so on. These smaller cones reduce the area of the speaker that pounds out the SPL. What sense does it make to send out a 12" speaker to do a 15" speaker job? EROM surrounds allow the use of 15" cones in 15" speakers, 12"s in 12"s and so on and so on. EROM surrounds give long throw AND large piston diameter. Those same inner tube surrounds have much more inherent moving mass due to their bulky, inefficient profiles. This wide inner tube profile requires extra surround thickness to keep them from flapping around under power. The added moving mass requires more amp power to overcome all the bulk. The EROM surround profile takes advantage of height to increase surround travel. Surround height is the major component to excursion, not width. The reduced surface area of the EROM profile reduces the required moving mass. The EROM design is highly efficient in its excursion/mass ratio. EROM surrounds are a true breakthrough in the design of highly efficient long-throw subwoofers. Digital Designs is always at the forefront in the development of technology to push subwoofer performance to new levels. The EROM surrounds we developed are being copied around the world, some even use our EROM term in their advertising. So while others are copying what we do and how we say it, we'll be breaking ground on new stuff. Stay tuned. Straight from DD's website and the funny thing is...it all makes sense. |
Silver Member Username: JtownATX, Texas Post Number: 745 Registered: Mar-07 | you really get off making sure that you're smarter or at least sound smarter than everyone and anyone don't you? |
Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 5796 Registered: Jul-06 | "you really get off making sure that you're smarter or at least sound smarter than everyone and anyone don't you?" I wouldn't go around posting false information and I wouldn't bullsh1t about stuff on here.I'm proving my point and backing it up with references.If I'm wrong teach me why I'm wrong and I'll respect it.If I'm right I'll make sure that you realize it.I'm here to help people and if others are saying false information I'm going to correct them on it. |
Silver Member Username: JtownATX, Texas Post Number: 746 Registered: Mar-07 | I didn't say you were wrong, but you are extremely condescending and I don't see how anyone can respect what you have to say regardless of its credibility because of that. Try simply informing someone of what the correct information may be instead of calling them stupid or ignorant before hand. |
Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 5799 Registered: Jul-06 | "Try simply informing someone of what the correct information may be instead of calling them stupid or ignorant before hand." I did neither.Everyone tried to jump on my balls saying I didn't know what I was talking about.Proved them wrong.Dustin was the one who said I made a retarded statement.He attempted to quote me and failed so I said he made himself look like a retard.That's all,I didn't call anyone stupid.It doesn't matter if people don't respect what I have said because I'm going to say what I want regardless.Like I said though...if I'm wrong prove me wrong and I'll accept that I'm wrong and that's all there is to it.If I'm right...oh well I'm right, get over it. |
Gold Member Username: CenusOhio Post Number: 3890 Registered: Jan-05 | wow i forgot one letter sue me. |
Gold Member Username: CenusOhio Post Number: 3891 Registered: Jan-05 | and FYI rob cone area isn't everything, BL plays more of a factor in spl than cone area. |
Gold Member Username: MgbcsLincoln, Nebraska Post Number: 1739 Registered: Dec-06 | Alright, enough BS in the thread. It was started for opinions on the sub. And SkieS...I am going to give it about 1100 for now. That should be sufficient, but if it isn't I can upgrade in the summer when I am done with school. |
Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 5801 Registered: Jul-06 | "and FYI rob cone area isn't everything, BL plays more of a factor in spl than cone area." The BL isn't all that high on that sub either. "Alright, enough BS in the thread. It was started for opinions on the sub. " And that's what I did Ben,I gave my opinion on the sub. |
Gold Member Username: Mike11202DD9515G VFL 200.1 = : , Sewell, NJ US Post Number: 1083 Registered: Nov-06 | I see some JL W7.. RE 05 XXX.. all in one sub |
Silver Member Username: KaerfplSpencerport, NY USA Post Number: 717 Registered: Jun-06 | "Only 200 Will Be Sold @ This Price. First Come. First Serve." D@mn... |
Gold Member Username: MgbcsLincoln, Nebraska Post Number: 1740 Registered: Dec-06 | I understand Rob...that was just in reference to the side discussion. No big deal. |
Gold Member Username: DrivingrecklessDD 9515f, 148.2 db Mov... Post Number: 4715 Registered: Apr-06 | wow audiobahns look bad-a-s-s so they must be loud!!!! |
Silver Member Username: SkiesTofino, British Colu... Canada Post Number: 847 Registered: Aug-05 | ""Rob. Look at the xmax." Just because a sub has a high xmax does not mean it will get loud." I missed the part where I said it will get loud. You commented on the wide surround I said look at the xmax. As said above the displacement will more than make up for the cone area lost. BTW, Rob, just cause a company's website says something about their technology, doesn't mean its true. Its all about marketing. That is a VERY biased way of looking at things and you should know that. I'm not saying I don't trust DD, I'm a huge fan. Not tryin to be a d!ck but your askin for it. |
Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 5831 Registered: Jul-06 | """Rob. Look at the xmax." Just because a sub has a high xmax does not mean it will get loud." I missed the part where I said it will get loud. You commented on the wide surround I said look at the xmax. As said above the displacement will more than make up for the cone area lost. BTW, Rob, just cause a company's website says something about their technology, doesn't mean its true. Its all about marketing. That is a VERY biased way of looking at things and you should know that. I'm not saying I don't trust DD, I'm a huge fan. Not tryin to be a d!ck but your askin for it." I only said that because I didn't want people who wanted opinion on subs would think Xmax is everything.I wasn't aiming that directly at you Skies.Oh and DD isn't all about selling like crazy the way you think they are.DD tries to protect dealers and keep their product sold in shops and off the net and don't sell or mass product insane amounts of subs like other companies.DD is the real deal my friend.They don't have to even use "Marketing" to sell their subs.Most people find out about them through word of mouth or online.If they wanted to sell tons they would just go to best buy and circuit city and sell online like most other companies do but DD isn't about all of that.I wonder how their home audio is taking off... |
Silver Member Username: SkiesTofino, British Colu... Canada Post Number: 848 Registered: Aug-05 | Yeah, true Rob... On that note, anyone know why DD is dealer/local only and Audioque went online only? It might not be that DD doesn't want them there(at CC and BB), it could be that they don't fulfill the expectations for DD. A bad salesman can make a bad name for a company. I'm sure when DD first started they had marketing, although I have no proof. |