Silver Member Username: Press1Yuba City, CA USA Post Number: 282 Registered: Nov-04 | Brands and types? Also, can a two channel amp bridged be more efficient than a mono amp by the same maker? I will use this information in picking an amp soon for an upgrade. |
Gold Member Username: JuliobSanto DomingoDominican Re... Post Number: 5001 Registered: Dec-05 | No, the 2 channel can't be more efficient, basically because they're A/B. If they're class T they might be near in efficiency but not the same. Right now you should look into Zapco, Rd audio, Sundown audio, Mmats, maybe atomic, Zed audio etc. |
Gold Member Username: MixmastaspigCanada, Canada Canada Post Number: 1184 Registered: Sep-05 | ^^ great choices and x2 on the 2 channel a/b amp. I have heard Stetsom or Stestom has good efficiency as well. Helix and Brax are good as well (expensive) I have a Helix amp and it rocks. The Helix amp (Dark Blue 1000.2) is a 2 channel class D amp so its neat. |
Gold Member Username: Nyyfan13Fi SSD USA Post Number: 6742 Registered: Jul-06 | stetsom 7k on sale over on CA.com wish i had a use for it |
Gold Member Username: JkidderGunshine , State Flawda Post Number: 2422 Registered: Nov-05 | stetsom draws a 500 amps at 1 ohm. g/l charging that sh!t. mcintosh, focal, blade, all are efficient multi-channel amps |
Gold Member Username: AdddisorderPalm Beach, Florida Post Number: 5396 Registered: Jan-06 | shocked no one has said DLS |
Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Northwest PA Post Number: 3594 Registered: Jul-06 | All the brands that have been said so far, also US Amps AX series |
Silver Member Username: Press1Yuba City, CA USA Post Number: 286 Registered: Nov-04 | I'm looking at each website comparing watts and price. Thanks for all the recommendations. |
Gold Member Username: 04redmach1Columbus, GA USA Post Number: 1433 Registered: Mar-06 | If you would like help on the RD Audio, Sundown, or US Amps email me at: lowhz01@yahoo.com Kevin |
Bronze Member Username: NanbakatMexico CityMexico Post Number: 49 Registered: Mar-06 | The Alpine PDX series amps are some of the most efficient amps ever built. They transform over 90% of the incoming electrical energy into power to drive your speakers instead of flittering it away as heat. |
Bronze Member Username: MarcoooPost Number: 23 Registered: Mar-07 | ^ That is if you have a bigger budget and not much room to spare |
Gold Member Username: CarguyPost Number: 6608 Registered: Nov-04 | What is it that you're trying to accomplish? Looking at just the watts and price won't solve anything. By doing that, you'll fall into the Sony/Pyraimd syndrome. When it comes to audio, you can't just rely on numbers alone. On paper, class T sounds like a miracle amp. However, don't expect that in a real test. There's a reason why it's not the #1 selling amp. Shop for amps the way you'd shop for cars. You wouldn't compare any car with 6 cyl with Porsche right? If all you're looking for were just watts and price, that'd be like comparing any 8 cyl and price. |
Bronze Member Username: Basebalz13Moneta, Va Usa Post Number: 67 Registered: Aug-07 | what about DDm3's what kind of effinecy are they |
Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 5689 Registered: Jul-06 | "what about DDm3's what kind of effinecy are they" It seems as though you haven't been listening to my advice.DD makes very efficient amplifiers.A guy that goes by the name of Louisiana_Crx ran an M3 on a stock alternator at .35 ohms daily with a batcap in the back.He said it was still super efficient on a stock alt.Lots of people talk about DD amps being awesome but...whatever. |
Silver Member Username: Press1Yuba City, CA USA Post Number: 304 Registered: Nov-04 | Isaac...what i'm trying to accomplish is getting a quality highly efficient amplifier that will last me a while. I've had my Isis for 15 years. Its time to upgrade. |
Gold Member Username: CarguyPost Number: 6614 Registered: Nov-04 | If it lasted you that long and is still working, you won't find many nowdays. Most cheap amps will die within 1 - 2 years. Similar to cars. The old bugs lasted almost forever. |
Silver Member Username: Press1Yuba City, CA USA Post Number: 305 Registered: Nov-04 | I'm not looking for something to last that long, but I don't want to spend $250-$500 for something that will only last a year. |
Gold Member Username: N2audioLawrence, Ks USA Post Number: 1400 Registered: Mar-04 | If you're looking for a sub amp: efficient - made in America - and a great price to boot. http://www.lanzar.com/specials/citempage.asp?sku=OPTI1000.1D |
Gold Member Username: CarguyPost Number: 6618 Registered: Nov-04 | Opti, how do you know it's still "made in America"? It's rare to see low to mid level amps made anywhere besides overseas. |
New member Username: DrzekePost Number: 2 Registered: Nov-07 | I would have to agree with Nanbakat..... Alpine makes some of the best car audio amps out there. The PDX series are one of the most efficient amps out there and because alpine makes so much money because of there huge sales ( number 1 seller in car audio in USA ) they can sell there stuff for way cheeper than most products. For example: In the movie "fast and the furious" Alpine was offerd free advertising in the movie as long as they installed the car audio. Alpine turned them down because they did not need the extra help. I alsp would like to mention Calrion, and Phenix Gold, For the price they make awsome equitment. I myself have bout the DPX11500 Mono with 1500 watts RMS for only 500$ It is also stable at 1 ohm witch is huge power canadian and it pounds more than my car can take.... I run this power to 2 10" Phenix Gold octane R's at 2 ohms. I am overpowering them by 500RMS each!! and the subs will not blow. My stereo is made up of an alpine deck the DPX11500 mono block sub amp, the APX 4240 4 channel speaker amp, 6 1/2" alpine S type speakers, 2 10" Phenix gold subs with ported box, and a one ferret capacitor. All this combines to hit 130 db of sound and for everything it cost about 2,000$ and it kills some 3,000$-6,000$ systems So in my opinion Alpine, Clarion and Phenix gold will produce the loudest stereo for your buck. |
Gold Member Username: MixmastaspigCanada, Canada Canada Post Number: 1203 Registered: Sep-05 | @Zack welcome! What do you mean by--- "It is also stable at 1 ohm witch is huge power canadian"? there are many amps that are stable at 1ohm in Canada, I'm in Canada myself. Alpine is usually mega expensive for what you get when compared to other companies, at least when you try to buy locally from shops, way over priced. $500 for that amp wasn't a bad price, nor really a great one, unless it was brand new. I just sold a 3,000rms D-10 amp for $500 Canadian to a buddy on here.... Your set up is a fairly good one though, glad to see you don't have Sony in there! |
New member Username: DrzekePost Number: 3 Registered: Nov-07 | Hey Mike thnx for the reply.... I just meant for the price of 500 to find an amp with 1500 watt RMS that is also 1 ohm stable is a good deal. and Yes I did buy it new at a local shop In the case of Alpine and price they realy put out good product for farrely cheep. I found that alpine product often with lower watts will out pound something that is rated way higher in another brand because of the efficiency. It is like buying sony product rated at however maney watts then spending the same money for an alpine product. You will get often get way more performance for your money going with the alpine stuff even if it is rated at lower watts. so if you are looking strictly at stats on the box yes find something to talk about.. But if ur gunna be showing off to friends then alpine is the best performance for your $ in my opinion |
Silver Member Username: Sinful_systems7015 INCH WANG... Post Number: 892 Registered: Nov-06 | Crossfire VR1000D,VR2000D, VR4000D; Elemental Designs nine.1; Sundown Audio 1500D and 3000D; as well as many of the other great suggestions made so far....JMO |
Gold Member Username: N2audioLawrence, Ks USA Post Number: 1418 Registered: Mar-04 | "Opti, how do you know it's still "made in America"? It's rare to see low to mid level amps made anywhere besides overseas." }} Those are old stock Optidrives that were built by Zed Audio. They're a lot closer to "elite" than "low-mid level". I have one in my trunk. |
Silver Member Username: Sinful_systems7015 INCH WANG... Post Number: 928 Registered: Nov-06 | If I had to pick one brand.... It would be tough, but from my experienc, the Sundown Audio amps are the most efficient amps or less demanding of your electrical system compared to other amps with similar power output....They are also almost indestructable and warranteed down to .5 ohms.... They are VERY nice amps... JMO |
Silver Member Username: Sinful_systems7015 INCH WANG... Post Number: 929 Registered: Nov-06 | Whoops, left the "e" off of experience... Sorry |
Silver Member Username: Sinful_systems7015 INCH WANG... Post Number: 931 Registered: Nov-06 | Sorry again... "most efficient or LEAST demanding of your electrical system" |
Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 6006 Registered: Jul-06 | How about a Kicker WarHorse? Those have super sick efficiency but also a super disgusting price. |
Gold Member Username: JohnfiacA-ToWn, Bangn aint easy ....when u g... Post Number: 3923 Registered: Mar-06 | ^warhorse? never heard of that one is it new? |
Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 6017 Registered: Jul-06 | I don't think they're out yet to the public. http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/auto-audio/kicker-warhorse-10000+watt-car-stereo-amp- ensures-complete-neighbor-alienation-320811.php |
Gold Member Username: MixmastaspigCanada, Canada Canada Post Number: 1254 Registered: Sep-05 | Thats mega expensive for 10,000rms @ $10k...You can go strapped with many other amps and get 10k+rms for less than 5 grand..... |
Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 6020 Registered: Jul-06 | ^They won't be that efficient though |
Gold Member Username: MixmastaspigCanada, Canada Canada Post Number: 1255 Registered: Sep-05 | Ahhh, gotcha But the description on that warhorse says you need two 200a alts and 8 (maybe 12) batteries......So either way I think you would be ok for efficiency if you have that much elec equip |
Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 6039 Registered: Jul-06 | I hope they start using that technology on amps of lesser power. I'd still like to run a WarHorse daily on 4 nice subs though. |
Silver Member Username: Sinful_systems7015 INCH WANG... Post Number: 958 Registered: Nov-06 | Sundown Audio FTW!!!!!! |
Silver Member Username: Sinful_systems7015 INCH WANG... Post Number: 959 Registered: Nov-06 | Juliob WINS!!!!!! |
Silver Member Username: Sinful_systems7015 INCH WANG... Post Number: 960 Registered: Nov-06 | ^^^^Juliob wrote "Right now you should look into Zapco, Rd audio, Sundown audio, Mmats, maybe atomic, Zed audio etc." He wins..... |
Gold Member Username: Naledge503Http://com4.runboard.c... Post Number: 2251 Registered: Jun-06 | They got the warhorse on the Kicker website now. |
Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 6050 Registered: Jul-06 | ^Yea, I just got done looking at the manual. Looks super sick! |
Bronze Member Username: MarcoooPost Number: 59 Registered: Mar-07 | Sinful - Sundown don't warrant their amps down to .5 ohm anymore. Not that it changes the fact that they can do it (at least I hope since I might end up doing that on my 1500D lol) |
Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 6082 Registered: Jul-06 | "Sinful - Sundown don't warrant their amps down to .5 ohm anymore. Not that it changes the fact that they can do it (at least I hope since I might end up doing that on my 1500D lol)" You better have the charging system for the current draw or you're going to blow that amplifier up. |
Silver Member Username: Big_edge_headMilwaukee, Wisconsin USA Post Number: 866 Registered: Mar-07 | "Elemental Designs nine.1" how would you consider it as an efficient amp? |
Bronze Member Username: KhaePost Number: 78 Registered: May-07 | macintosh!!!!! but expsensive though.... ive used the old school sound stream amp n there good though also the kicker amps... i got a pair my self works execelentt!!! two kx 1200.1 strapped to a single dd 3515 |
Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Northwest PA Post Number: 4336 Registered: Jul-06 | " Elemental Designs nine.1 " lol that amp isn't even in the same league as the other mentioned here. |
Silver Member Username: Big_fletchNewport, Ar, Ar United states Post Number: 682 Registered: May-06 | Incriminator 20.1 is a really good amp expect to see around 2500 watts when ran under 1 ohm and the atomic mono blocks are very effieient |
Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 6136 Registered: Jul-06 | "Incriminator 20.1 is a really good amp expect to see around 2500 watts when ran under 1 ohm and the atomic mono blocks are very effieient" Ugh. Wrong. The IA 20.1 isn't all that efficient under 1 ohm in comparison to the amps mentioned above. The Atomic amps are current hungry, thank you sir! |
Silver Member Username: Big_fletchNewport, Ar, Ar United states Post Number: 683 Registered: May-06 | "Ugh. Wrong. The IA 20.1 isn't all that efficient under 1 ohm in comparison to the amps mentioned above. The Atomic amps are current hungry, thank you sir!" Ugh. The IA 20.1 can be runned down to .35 ohms if u have a good electrical upgrade and yes the Atomics amps are current hungry but that dont mean there not efficient |
Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Northwest PA Post Number: 4420 Registered: Jul-06 | ^^^^^ LMAO |
Bronze Member Username: MarcoooPost Number: 73 Registered: Mar-07 | Rob would you say a 220 amp alt, yellowtop in front and kinetik hc800 in back w/ big three (o gauge wire) is a good enuff electrical to run a SAZ-1500D at .5 ohm? Hope so because I'm rewiring it Monday lol... |
Bronze Member Username: MarcoooPost Number: 74 Registered: Mar-07 | btw I'm setting my gains to 1500w rms (27 volts) |
Silver Member Username: Shak180Hayward, California Usa Post Number: 105 Registered: Jul-07 | i'd say memphis amps are also pretty efficient im currently running a power reference 1000.1 on a stock charging system with good results the alternator is a stock 80 amp and the amp is wired to 1 ohm and its putting a little over 1k rms out and i barely have any dimming |