Silver Member Username: KapreseWalstonburg, NC USA Post Number: 355 Registered: Mar-07 | I listen to all hip-hop so would 34hz tuning be good for a SQL setup for 2 12"s (slot-port)and would it still have decent low extension |
Silver Member Username: KapreseWalstonburg, NC USA Post Number: 356 Registered: Mar-07 | open to opinions.....I want the best of both WORLDS!!! |
Gold Member Username: ShowridesHartford, CT USA Post Number: 1002 Registered: Feb-06 | I mean of course the subwoofers you are using would be a better way of determining the tuning frequency of your enclosure. Just tuning it based on what music you listen to, isn't the correct way to go about it. But generally 34hz tuning will sound great for rap music if you subs can hit the lows real well. |
Silver Member Username: Kpa2727Post Number: 524 Registered: May-07 | i run at 34 hz for rock and rap shakes decently hard. but i would bump it down to 32 hz for rap. at least that's what i learned from most box builders i talk to. even though i built mine. "drivingwreckless" designed mine |
Silver Member Username: Kpa2727Post Number: 525 Registered: May-07 | forgot to say but yea to dial it in drp what subs u have????????????????? |
Silver Member Username: KapreseWalstonburg, NC USA Post Number: 357 Registered: Mar-07 | some cheap Pioneer TSW301R (150rms) I am putting them in my little brother car |
Silver Member Username: KapreseWalstonburg, NC USA Post Number: 358 Registered: Mar-07 | but I know he is look for SQL and ain't 32hz a bit on the SQ side |
Silver Member Username: KapreseWalstonburg, NC USA Post Number: 359 Registered: Mar-07 | http://www.crutchfield.com/S-IFdhaZiwKpx/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=520&tab=features _and_specs&i=130TSW301R#Tab |
Silver Member Username: KapreseWalstonburg, NC USA Post Number: 360 Registered: Mar-07 | I guess I am looking for the highest tuning but still stay in the rap/SPL/SQ range if thats possible....if not just a good SQL tuning |
Silver Member Username: KapreseWalstonburg, NC USA Post Number: 361 Registered: Mar-07 | anyone before I go to bed |
Silver Member Username: KapreseWalstonburg, NC USA Post Number: 362 Registered: Mar-07 | any suggestions the link to those subs are above |
Silver Member Username: KapreseWalstonburg, NC USA Post Number: 363 Registered: Mar-07 | what is a good tuning for these subs __HZ |
Gold Member Username: DrivingrecklessDD 9515f, 148.2 db Mov... Post Number: 3909 Registered: Apr-06 | septuple post FTL!!!! |
Silver Member Username: KapreseWalstonburg, NC USA Post Number: 366 Registered: Mar-07 | DRIVINGRECKLESS can you tell me a good SQL tuning for these subs ? |
Platinum Member Username: BestmankindSOUND SPLINTER RL-S ON... Post Number: 14751 Registered: Oct-05 | 36hz |
Silver Member Username: KapreseWalstonburg, NC USA Post Number: 367 Registered: Mar-07 | alright thanks chad I hope you ain't pulling my leg |
Platinum Member Username: BestmankindSOUND SPLINTER RL-S ON... Post Number: 14753 Registered: Oct-05 | when i had a pioneer sub, i tuned it to 36hz and it sounded nice. i first tuned it to 32hz but i didn't like it so i cut the aeroport so it was 34hz. still didn't like it so i cut it so it was tuned to 36hz and bammmmm, it sounded nice. you gotta remember though, depends on vehicle what your port will peak at. even though you tune a box to 36hz doesn't mean it will peak at 36hz. your car accoustics play a big part on what your box is going to be tuned to. best way is to use aero ports or pvc ports. that way you can adjust the tuning to fit you best. |
Silver Member Username: KapreseWalstonburg, NC USA Post Number: 368 Registered: Mar-07 | alright thanks chad again |
Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 4107 Registered: Jul-06 | ^What Chad said.If you don't like the lower tuning you can just cut the port and tune it higher. |
Silver Member Username: KapreseWalstonburg, NC USA Post Number: 369 Registered: Mar-07 | alright so this would be a good SQL tuning you think? |
Platinum Member Username: Rovin4 10 Pioneer... Post Number: 11933 Registered: Jul-05 | i agree with chad wasnt there already a thread on this & i answered it there ...... |
Gold Member Username: Safe_crackerChicago, IL US Post Number: 3262 Registered: Jan-06 | Everything has a resonation frequency, EVERYTHING even houses, lol. There will be frequencies your car will like and there will be some that it won't and sound horrible. Even rocks have resonation frequencies and are very accurate that is why they use quartz in watches for the timing mechanism, fact... Polo. |
Silver Member Username: KapreseWalstonburg, NC USA Post Number: 370 Registered: Mar-07 | alright guys I am already done building the port and guess what.........it sounds good as H*ll it hits the lows just right and the upper bass is right on point thanks I will see if I can get a video up a little later I will let you know this afternoon |
Silver Member Username: KapreseWalstonburg, NC USA Post Number: 371 Registered: Mar-07 | a small little question when you raise the freq. doesn't that increase output and raise db's some what? |
Gold Member Username: Safe_crackerChicago, IL US Post Number: 3263 Registered: Jan-06 | Yes.. Higher the frequency, higher the DB's. This is why it takes a great deal more surface area to get a high spl score at lower frequencies. Polo. |
Platinum Member Username: BestmankindSOUND SPLINTER RL-S ON... Post Number: 14756 Registered: Oct-05 | higher frequencie = amp runnig more efficient? yes or no polo. |
Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 4113 Registered: Jul-06 | "Yes.. Higher the frequency, higher the DB's. This is why it takes a great deal more surface area to get a high spl score at lower frequencies. Polo." That's not always the case |
Silver Member Username: BoomtankRochester, NY USA Post Number: 342 Registered: Oct-06 | how do you test for your cars r-freq. Should you take a sealed box and run a sub through test tones till you hit the loudest? |
Gold Member Username: Safe_crackerChicago, IL US Post Number: 3264 Registered: Jan-06 | More waves, more frequency more spl. This is in the law of nature, cannot be changed. Whether or not it is the case inside of your vehicle is up to god, lol. But ya higher frequencies yield higher SPL shearly due to the number of waves per cycle (hz) now this goes up with the amount of power given increasing the length of the crest. Now Chad this is dependant on the sub/enclosure characteristics from what I have been told and learned that at resonance the sub will draw significantly less power and the subs excursion will be at a minimal. You use a db meter, a smallish sub in a sealed enclsoure, then due a sweep at the same level all the way through until you hit a peak. Polo. |
Platinum Member Username: BestmankindSOUND SPLINTER RL-S ON... Post Number: 14764 Registered: Oct-05 | well i want to know if the amp draws more current when its producing lower frequencies than high frequencies. if that is the case then that explains why alot of competitors choose cars with high resonant freq to use as spl cars. |
Gold Member Username: Safe_crackerChicago, IL US Post Number: 3265 Registered: Jan-06 | A car with a higher peak will produce a higher db. This is why they tune them boxes so damn high, lol. Now as far as power use that depends on the avtive load(lowest imp) of the subs in corolation with box tune, etc. I am in no way an expert but subs produce different loads at different frequencies so at the lowest available load the sub produces will give the most available power at that frequency set BUT does not mean it will be the loudest there due to in vehicle acoustics/box tuning. Now as far when the sub/box reach the resonant frequency of that particular enclosure will result in the least amount of power used and you will notice that the sub is moving a lot less. I think if they were reaching such high efficiency levels they wouldn't need 12 subs and 20,000 watts, lol. Polo.. |
Silver Member Username: KapreseWalstonburg, NC USA Post Number: 373 Registered: Mar-07 | ......Interesting it seems you guys no everything about car audio Well I have 1 last question I know it's not about what you guys are on. -What is normally the best sub placement in trunk installs, I have sub and port on 1 side, rear firing towards trunk.Do you think I would get better SPL and SQ with aiming the subs and port into cabin.(The box is 4.6cuft in my small SAturn SL2 so it basically takes up the whole trunk I have to take off my trunk lock to slide the box in.But if I was to face it into the cabin it would basically be sealed off from the trunk.Any suggestions "seats fold down but I normally don't put them down because those who do don't have a loud system to begin with" lol lol in my opinion |