Massive Audio 3000.1 or MA Audio HK4000D?
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Silver Member Username: NorthomahaPost Number: 458 Registered: Mar-06 | Dont flame me for this question. I know MS has expressed his dislike for MA Audio but i need some opinions. To my amazement the MA HK is more money that the massive amp. i had that visonik and the piece of sh1t blew on me. however before it blew my subs thumped HARD. i was wondering if this amp although its rated lower will get as loud as that visonik. also how good of a deal can you cut me Kevin? |
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Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 3408 Registered: Jul-06 | The Massive might not get as loud but it might not blow up either.I'm also wondering what you did that caused the amp to blow up in the first place. |
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Gold Member Username: Adam_sPost Number: 1541 Registered: Aug-04 | What kind of electrical system do you have? |
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Platinum Member Username: BestmankindSQ = SoundSplinter RL-s Post Number: 14021 Registered: Oct-05 | i was at a show last year. this dude had the massive audio amp with 12 8" subs in a sealed box. he had the final ohm load at .35ohms. he had enough batteries in the trunk too. anyways, it was running good during practice runs. then when he enter the lanes to bassrace, the amp blew 20 seconds in to the run. so he calls the dealer where he bought it and they quickly brought another. well that one blew 10 seconds in to the run. just thought i share that story. |
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Gold Member Username: JblanfordPost Number: 1719 Registered: Oct-06 | the actually the orion 2500d was louder than a hk4000d on a TL look into one of those |
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Silver Member Username: NorthomahaPost Number: 459 Registered: Mar-06 | those orions are so hardd to find and i hear the new models are not as good. |
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Silver Member Username: Cashby12 Fi Q Post Number: 352 Registered: Oct-06 | Ma audio hk802sk...brand new..400 shipped |
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Gold Member Username: Adam_sPost Number: 1554 Registered: Aug-04 | Electrical system? |
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Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 3409 Registered: Jul-06 | He's dodging that question for whatever reason. |
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Gold Member Username: The_image_dynamicSan Diego Post Number: 2158 Registered: Dec-06 | ^^^^ You would too if you had an 80 amp alt and a big three consisting of 16 gauge wire  |
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Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 3411 Registered: Jul-06 | ^Rofl.How did you know my charging system?! |
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Silver Member Username: BasssquaredKansas Post Number: 900 Registered: Nov-06 | ROFLMFAO |
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Silver Member Username: 04redmach1Columbus, GA USA Post Number: 992 Registered: Mar-06 | Well, the P3000.1 does not like loads below 2 ohms at all. I would take Massive over MA any day and all day. The Massive P3000.1 can be bought from me at $525 shipped with 2 year warranty. Talk ith Berney on here, he is running 2 of them Kevin |
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Silver Member Username: NorthomahaPost Number: 461 Registered: Mar-06 | ive got a 150 amp alt with the big three done and two yellow tops. im plannin on a 300 amp iraggi but with the 150 amp alt it didnt dip below 13.2 with the visonik andd i sat back there with the DMM on the truck battery for about five minutes with it on full tilt. with minimal light dimming at night. |
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Silver Member Username: NorthomahaPost Number: 462 Registered: Mar-06 | yea and if berney sees this can you give me a review? |
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Gold Member Username: JohnfiacA-ToWn, Kingkong ain... I got Chuck ... Post Number: 3288 Registered: Mar-06 | Reming, if you didnt drop below 13.2V you deff werent getting even close to 4K outta that amp... ona 150A alt. but in either case i would pick Memphis over MA to.... power isnt everything when it only lasts a short time. If your trying to save money just get a earthquake PHD5000D they are pretty cheap and what they are rated at... myn lasted about 3 months running at 1ohm... its rated 2ohm minimal. |
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Gold Member Username: BernymacBME, BernyMac Edi... Post Number: 3031 Registered: Sep-04 | I seen this awhile ago. Anyways, the Massive p3000.1 is a good amp for the price. Shipping alone is about 35bucks so your actually paying like 390 for the amp and the rest is shipping. For the price, you can't go wrong. As for how it holds up, like anything that does this amount of power, if you got the electrical, it will be fine. Running two to two hd315's with a 260/155 iraggi alt and two odyssey 2150 batteries. These babies hold up quite nicely. And if you buy from Kevin or Ben through Low-hz you'll get the two year warranty. I finally sent my amp back in after months of waiting and Massive still took care of me. Although, Kevin was the one that was able to make it happen. I haven't had any problems from my amps ever since I had them. They will do rated power at 14.8volts and they will do 2680rms at 12.4 or 12.6 volts. |
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Gold Member Username: JohnfiacA-ToWn, Kingkong ain... I got Chuck ... Post Number: 3290 Registered: Mar-06 | instead of getting MA just plug your sub into a wall and let it blow instead of the amp  |
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Silver Member Username: Koz1031Monticello, IN United states Post Number: 446 Registered: Jul-04 | Now Now Now be nice guys. I've never run the Massive but I do Have 2 MA Audio amps. 1 of them being the HK series. Now granted I don't crank the system very often, and I'm not pushing the wattage you guys are talking about. But my HK897 has been just fine for 3 yrs now. Never missed a beat and has never gotten hot. I'm only running it at 2 ohms, but that is all it is ratted at. I don't listen to a lot of deep base, in fact nickelback is about as bad as I get. But for the $$$ I paid for the amp new on eBay at the time it has been just fine. In fact a lot better than the soundstream I paid more $$$ for, that didn't last a year, And the soundstream was just running the mids. But as we all know, this whole car audio thing for the most part is just personal opinion. That includes the MECP boys, and ever present high installers. Hell if Pioneer can set a world record, what do we know. Just my .02 worth. Even knowing it doesn't count. |
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Gold Member Username: JohnfiacA-ToWn, Kingkong ain... I got Chuck ... Post Number: 3295 Registered: Mar-06 | But what did it take pioneer to set that record? ;) IMO pretty much any amp can last for years when not being pushed to hard, but when pushing it to its max limitations it takes a good durable amp to hold that along with the power supply to support it, also it has to keep up in the heat of the hot summer days which is a big cause of amps burning out more in the summer over the winter season. Its like people say about kenwood amps and power supply issues, ive had a kenwood for my comps. that i have ran well over a year and even pushed 2 DD9515's with for a while its still all good. Its not just what you use but how you use it, but what im trying to get across is when your going for high amounts of power you should look for the quality builds just because of the heat and all produced alot of the cheap stuff lack the right stuff to eliminate it from causing gradual damage to itself. The Kenwood hasnt seen the gain set upto its rated power output except for maybe 3 days. Circuitry 100% perfect condition. But i still say Massive over MA just because of all the things ive heard about each, also sh1tty companys have sh1tty Customer support for the most part, from what i heard with Berny Customer Support with Massive was good. |
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Silver Member Username: NorthomahaPost Number: 463 Registered: Mar-06 | yea im gonna go for the massive. and im only gonna run it at 2ohms. my subs are both 2ohm vcs. and when i upgrade the alt it shouldnt skip a beat. |
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Silver Member Username: Koz1031Monticello, IN United states Post Number: 466 Registered: Jul-04 | KiLLa to answer your ? "But what did it take pioneer to set that record?" Her is your answer, Scott started developing the 2002 Ford F-250 back in May of 2002, he broke it down right to the frame for the construction of the subwoofer enclosures; which currently holds 13 Pioneer Premier TS-W5000SPL subwoofers! Steel bars were used to reinforce the frame of the enclosure, so that the truck could withstand the enormous pressure that is generated by this silver beast. The windshield was removed and replaced with 2-1/2-inch thick plexi-glass. Each door weighs in at a whooping 200 pounds, both utilizing 1" x 2" aluminum hinges to lock them down in place. The air space inside the truck is vacuum-sealed to prevent air leakage, which is crucial in Sound Pressure Competition. The truck holds 52 amplifiers, 72 16-volt Turbo Start batteries and three Ohio Generator 285-amp alternators and produces 115,200 watts of power. A Pioneer DEX-P1R is cleverly mounted on a special pod outside of the car to control the system during competitions. Scott uses Scosche Interconnects, exclusively. And all I can say, I sure would like to have the $$$ they got wrapped up in that thing. |
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Gold Member Username: HdubbFarmington, Nm Usa Post Number: 2186 Registered: Nov-04 | i think he went to kinetik power cells now though |
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Silver Member Username: NorthomahaPost Number: 465 Registered: Mar-06 | thats insane. who is this scott guy. im assuming hes connected with pioneer or owns it. either way, hit me up kevin so i can know how to pay for this amp. |
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Gold Member Username: Extrmndor3IF U HEAR ME... crazydbs.com Post Number: 5769 Registered: Feb-06 | ok about the ma vs massive audio. massive audio is a great company and great quality amps the amp will produce 3100 watts rms at around 14.4 steady voltage. for the price they are cool. but some of them tent to blow without any reason. about the ma audio, yes we know ma audio mainstream products are somwhat BAD, but not of them some product of ma audio are really good they got the some subs that are really worth the price, on amps the hk-4000d is a great amp it will do 3600 at 14 volts and for less than450 is a great buy, most of the spl competitors is the easy route and never had problems unless you run them at around .32ohms when is rated at 2 ohms and can take the 1 ohms at burps. deciding between the massive and ma audio isjust on how much you want to spend you will be goo with both. who said that ma audio will blow your subs??? htats full of cr@p unless you have a 100 watts max and hook it up at 2 ohms that wil blow yoru sub. if your thinking the ma audio 4000d will blow your sub cuz of its quality??? get your facts right all the amps will blow your subs if you have poor charging as long you have clean power to feed on the ma audio you will have great performance out of it and your subs will be pretty good. the ma audio 4000d>massive>earthquakephd5000 ^^^^ price,quality,power combined |
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Silver Member Username: NorthomahaPost Number: 468 Registered: Mar-06 | yea the more and more ive been reading about he MA hk4000ds i cant find bad reviews on em. and where did you find a hk4000d for 450 rob? |
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Gold Member Username: Extrmndor3IF U HEAR ME... crazydbs.com Post Number: 5772 Registered: Feb-06 | cant tell ya but i did not knew that you couldnt find them for 500 and under thp but even at 500 is a great deal whenyour ognna see a 500 amp put out 3500 watts rms?? |
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Silver Member Username: NorthomahaPost Number: 469 Registered: Mar-06 | well where have you seen them for 500? |
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Silver Member Username: TurnmatPost Number: 271 Registered: Feb-07 | i think on ebay you can get them for around 500... |
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Silver Member Username: NorthomahaPost Number: 470 Registered: Mar-06 | yea im a little wary of ebay though. theres some shady dealers on there. |
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