Silver Member Username: CriedErie, PA US Post Number: 303 Registered: Jun-07 | I need enough 1/0 Wire to peform the big three. The cheaper the better. Im not sure how much I need, roughly 6-8'? Any input on that matter would be appreciated. Also I need the lug connectors that look like this: I already have 2, so I need 4 more. [Bottom Left] Any advice or tricks of the trade to make this process easier would also be appreciated |
Silver Member Username: CriedErie, PA US Post Number: 304 Registered: Jun-07 | Ok, I printed off directions from the12volt on how to actually do the big three upgrade, and I went out to my car and I couldnt find a damn thing under the hood.. Where the heck is the positive output on the alternator? I coudlnt find where the negative was grounded to on the chassi, I couldnt find anything.. So I took some pictures and maybe someone can point me in the right direction on how to do the big three. I dont know why I took the last two pictures.. |
Gold Member Username: Adam_sPost Number: 1349 Registered: Aug-04 | To find the from the negative to the chassis just follow the wires from the negative post on the battery and see where it connects to the chassis...Simple as that. And for the alternator the positive connect is on the other side of the alternator than the pulley so you cant see it from your pics. |
Gold Member Username: Adam_sPost Number: 1350 Registered: Aug-04 | Also is that corrosion all over that negative terminal?? Clean that sh1t off there man. |
Silver Member Username: CriedErie, PA US Post Number: 305 Registered: Jun-07 | i've kleaned that sh!t off like 99999 times every day and it still comes back. |
Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 3124 Registered: Jul-06 | "Also is that corrosion all over that negative terminal?? Clean that sh1t off there man." That's exactly what I was thinking.Go and get your self a wire brush and scrub or scrape that stuff off of there. |
Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 3125 Registered: Jul-06 | I believe it corrodes like that from too much resistance. |
Gold Member Username: AdddisorderWest palm, Florida Post Number: 4603 Registered: Jan-06 | no its from chemicals, just put vasoline on the terminal and it will help. you dont have to use the stock ground just any place on the chasis to anywhere on the engine just clean metal and youll be fine. the alt + is on the side the alt that you cant see. reach around with your hand and feel for wires comming out. |
Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 3129 Registered: Jul-06 | I can't remember where I read that resistance played a role in corrosion of electrical conductors but I haven't had any luck finding things for references. |
Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 3130 Registered: Jul-06 | However this should enlighten others and myself for the most common causes of corrosion. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrosion |
Gold Member Username: WingmanaliveA pic is worth 1000 posts!! Post Number: 7412 Registered: Jun-06 | In a week or two I'll have a good bit of 1/0GA wire for sale. About 200' of it. |
Silver Member Username: CriedErie, PA US Post Number: 312 Registered: Jun-07 | In the pic below, there are two wires that come together and are pinched on by the negative part of the battery [circled in green]. When I rewire this, do I have to just cut it off? Or splice it into there? or cut it off completely and put the lug over the middle piece [circled in pink]. |
Silver Member Username: Tiki89Post Number: 121 Registered: Oct-06 | leave your original wire there just add to it. |
Gold Member Username: Adam_sPost Number: 1356 Registered: Aug-04 | I would actually put it where I circled. |
Silver Member Username: CriedErie, PA US Post Number: 313 Registered: Jun-07 | ah ok, now from there to the engine chassi? Do I have to find a bolt, take it out and pin the other end b/t the bolt head and part of the engine block? It is very crammed in there... Also, I cannot find wires coming out of the alternator. Can you help me find where those would be in relation to somethine else there next to it, like the oil dipstick? [orange handle] |
Gold Member Username: AdddisorderWest palm, Florida Post Number: 4606 Registered: Jan-06 | just feel around the alt caseing. there will be something sticking out a little with a wire connected to it. try looking from under the car. |
Silver Member Username: CriedErie, PA US Post Number: 315 Registered: Jun-07 | I tried but I couldn't even get under there the car was so low, and I can barely get a finger to the alternator, i dont think i'll be able to do the big 3 |
Silver Member Username: Wolf_houndPost Number: 265 Registered: Sep-05 | you ever heard of a car jack? lol |
Silver Member Username: Wolf_houndPost Number: 266 Registered: Sep-05 | i got lucky my alternator is right at the top so big 3 was waay to easy. What kind of car do you have by the way? Maybe someone here has the same car as yours that has done the big 3 and they will be able to help you out. |
Silver Member Username: CriedErie, PA US Post Number: 318 Registered: Jun-07 | 1994 Acura Legend with Alt at bottom =( |
Silver Member Username: CriedErie, PA US Post Number: 319 Registered: Jun-07 | Ok, on side note, I have another problem.. I ran my power wire a few months ago, and it took like 6 hours trying every way possible to hide this sh!t and get all the trim back on securley. After breaking several brackets and cracking my damn trim strip, I gave up out of exhaustion and just ran the wire on the outside.. Below are some few pix. I want this sh!t hidden! Any ideas? I tried and tried, but It was too buldgey and I couldnt get the trim back on without breaking it. [Also: I Kleened off that corrosion] Also thought I'd show you how I remounted my amp to my box so it's not sitting directly on it. I know its all messy, but when I get a new system, I will build an amp rack for it and have the subs facing me instead of the road behind me. |
Gold Member Username: Van_manBoston South, MA Post Number: 2547 Registered: Mar-06 | Dude, Lose that neg battery terminal. Cut the wires as close tto the terminal as bossible. Use a new Neg bat terminal. I found these work well. and put ring terminals on the original wires or use the second type pic terminal and put 2 on the bolt. Then put the 0/1 in this style terminal and tighten down. As far as grounding.. Just find an area near the battery on the chassis that you can get the 0/1 to. Wire brush it to bare metal and ,( I used the second type of terminal) and secure it with a bolt to the chassis. As far as alt connection, You probably will need to take the alt out if you cant reach it from the hood. What? |
Gold Member Username: Adam_sPost Number: 1359 Registered: Aug-04 | Sounds like your going to have to jack the car up and get under it. And the ground goes from the battery to a spot on the cars body for ground. And then there is another ground that goes from the engine block to a ground on the cars body you also have to put a wire there. That one is usually a flat woven wire that is not covered in any insulation. |
Silver Member Username: CriedErie, PA US Post Number: 327 Registered: Jun-07 | Bump to hide my wire. |
Silver Member Username: TatonkaPost Number: 434 Registered: Mar-07 | I ran my power wire from my battery, under the car, and up into the trunk. Works very nicely. |
Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 3141 Registered: Jul-06 | "I ran my power wire from my battery, under the car, and up into the trunk. Works very nicely." Try doing this Charlie but make sure to use wire looms or PVC tubing to protect the wire and remember,cable ties are your friend |
Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 3142 Registered: Jul-06 | I see that you're using a 250 amp fuse.What amplifier are you running there? |
Gold Member Username: Adam_sPost Number: 1361 Registered: Aug-04 | I believe he has the kx1200.1. |
Silver Member Username: CriedErie, PA US Post Number: 338 Registered: Jun-07 | what are wire looms? Would something like this work good for under the car? I don't want it to have slack or be dragging either... That would be bad.... Well I can't find a picture, but its like a black plastic tubing with a slit all along the side and it wraps right around the wire. |
Gold Member Username: OglejustPost Number: 2000 Registered: Aug-06 | yo i have 2 10 ft runs of 2/0 that would be good for big 3... 12.50 + shipping each |
Gold Member Username: Extrmndor3IF U HEAR ME... crazydbs.com Post Number: 5576 Registered: Feb-06 | check my silver 0 gauge wire. i got the negative form the chassis of the alternator str8t to the batterie - and the batterie - to the chassis |
Gold Member Username: Tremor1127Team Fi Car Audio [:-] Post Number: 1754 Registered: Aug-06 | yeah, hide that wire for sure. i use terminals like in the pic above (red and black terminals) but mine are brass. i solder all of my wirings ring terminals and bolt them down with the wing nuts. lilrobs terminals are nice but i hate the set screws (and no its not because i strip them out, haha). if you can do the wing nut battery terminals and use ring terminals for all of your wiring it will hold up the longest. is that knukoncepts lilrob? if so, same wire i use... |