Having trouble putting sound system together.
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New member Username: CharlesbhsPost Number: 1 Registered: Jan-07 | My problem is pretty simple. I just got a brand new 200 328i with what i think is the premium sound system but i still really want to get some subwoofer's or maybe just one very powerful one. There are alot of problems with doing this: First the trunk is really not that big and 2nd i heard that most european cars trunks are sealed tight so i might not get as good sound or something like that. I really want JL Audio ever since i heard the sound quality. All i have been doing the last month is driving around in my friends Grand Prix with 2 sony xplods. in a sealed box. all i want to know is what subs and amps should i get and how much will it run by me to get installed. thanks |
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Gold Member Username: JohnfiacA-ToWn, 152-153db Da... My wangers b... Post Number: 2772 Registered: Mar-06 | Well with a small trunk and looking for SQ thats better then if you were looking for SPL because of the box space needed for ported.. but depending on the trunk size you stil might be limited alot more... get some trunk measurements and a budget.... you will get more responses |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Southeast PA Post Number: 2364 Registered: Jul-06 | Tell us how many cubic feet you've got to work with..... you should be able to get a Fi Q in there. That is an SQ sub that also has good output. Or if you really want JL get some W6s.... best SQ subs they make. About the trunk being sealed, that can usually be fixed by cutting through the rear deck and doing something to conceal the hole..... carpet or something. |
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New member Username: CharlesbhsPost Number: 2 Registered: Jan-07 | ok there's more bad news i forgot to mention earlier. This car is a lease so i cant do much custom work to it. i wanted to spend between 500-1500 and the trunk measurements are: 38 inches deep 27/37/41 inches wide( you'll understand why in pics) 15 1/2 - 20 1/2 tall(you'll understand why in pics). I really want a SQ system i hate spl systems i love music to much.     |
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New member Username: CharlesbhsPost Number: 3 Registered: Jan-07 | here's all the measurements on the pic so you understand. |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Southeast PA Post Number: 2376 Registered: Jul-06 | Thats enough space for two 15"s....... Since you can't modify the car, IDK if JL W6s will have enough output for you. For a good SQ system with good output, I would put two 15" Qs in there. Port the box real low maybe 30hz or so, throw about 1000 watts on each sub, and you've got a clean hard-hitting system  |
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New member Username: CharlesbhsPost Number: 4 Registered: Jan-07 | i dont understand how 2 15's would fit in there.. does anybody else have any ideas? |
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Silver Member Username: •cam•Post Number: 311 Registered: Nov-06 | with 2kw he would need an alt upgrade tho wouldn't he? maybe an 18" Q? or a 15" Mag? |
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Silver Member Username: •cam•Post Number: 312 Registered: Nov-06 | well as long as you have the cubic feet then you can fit em. and ms can probably get a ballpark from lookin at the dims so if he says you can then you probably can. |
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Gold Member Username: WingmanaliveA pic is worth 1000 posts!! Post Number: 6494 Registered: Jun-06 | That's not a small trunk. With a little tweeking in box design you can maximize what's there. Not much room for anything else but..... |
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New member Username: CharlesbhsPost Number: 5 Registered: Jan-07 | can somebody give me some pricing on all this? and if anybody has any ideas about any 12" subs or something i do want some trunk space since this is my everyday car} |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Southeast PA Post Number: 2379 Registered: Jul-06 | Damn I forgot about the alternator: you can't run more than about 1000 watts on a stock alt, and since the car is leased you don't want to modify it. Ok, in this case I would run one 18" Q with a 1000 watt amp. That will kick some major as$ in SQ and still have good output. One 18" will fit in there with space left over. Like Paul said, that's a big as$ trunk. |
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Silver Member Username: •cam•Post Number: 313 Registered: Nov-06 | well. i dunno. in your position i'd just do a single 15 or 18. if you want more space a single 15 would probably do fine. Nick V got 143 db on music with a single ssd. the si mag is $500 at low-hz but if you call kevin you might get a better deal. that and a p1000.1 and you're at $775 shipped. maybe less if you call kevin. god damn. living in the US makes car audio so much cheaper. a lot of the sh!t i want i gotta import to canada which costs a shitload in shipping and then theres those fees i cant remember the name of that they charge you. customs. |
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New member Username: CharlesbhsPost Number: 6 Registered: Jan-07 | how much would that cost? and are you talking about the Audiobahn Q series? |
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Silver Member Username: •cam•Post Number: 314 Registered: Nov-06 | nope he's talkin Fi Q. https://ssl.perfora.net/www.ficaraudio.com/sess/utn;jsessionid=154647a811925ab/shopdata/0020_Q/product_overview.shopscript that is $309 plus that massive p1000.1 would have you at $585. there's that amp. someone might find you a better one. http://www.low-hz.com/commerce/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_28&products_id= 58&osCsid=31a20b77ea35ffcd9b28aeb239e69eee mag 15 http://www.low-hz.com/commerce/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=23_24&products_id= 35&osCsid=31a20b77ea35ffcd9b28aeb239e69eee |
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New member Username: CharlesbhsPost Number: 7 Registered: Jan-07 | I live in dallas, Tx and the only places i know who might install it is CarToys. are they good? |
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New member Username: CharlesbhsPost Number: 8 Registered: Jan-07 | 18" inch Q or Mag 15" which is better? |
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Silver Member Username: •cam•Post Number: 315 Registered: Nov-06 | i dunno. you can do it yourself tho. the only problem is when you do that you start plannin systems in your head. thats what happened to me and i was goin to bed at 9:30 and not getting to sleep til like 1:00 for a while. its fun installing it yourself though. and we can help you out with any questions. especially MS lol. if you're interested you can start reading here. http://www.bcae1.com/ http://the12volt.com/ http://caraudiobook.com/ |
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Silver Member Username: •cam•Post Number: 316 Registered: Nov-06 | i dont have experience with either sub at all so this is just to sorta i dunno give an idea i guess. im guessing the mag will sound tighter and more accurate but the Q will win in output and extension. dont take that for much tho. |
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Gold Member Username: WingmanaliveA pic is worth 1000 posts!! Post Number: 6498 Registered: Jun-06 | I have both the 15" Mag and the 18"Q. Love the Mag. Want to put her behind glass. The Q is just more for your $$. |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Southeast PA Post Number: 2381 Registered: Jul-06 | Q vs. Mag is a tough contest..... can't say I could pick one over the other. A very important thing to note: remember to factor in the cost of a box. The enclosure matters much more than sub that's in it, believe it or not. A prefab box can make a great sub sound like crap while a good custom box will make it sound great. You can contact Canaan on this forum or Mark Potts at www.spkrman.com for a well built box. Make sure to specify that you want an SQ system though, the box design makes a huge difference. |
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Gold Member Username: WingmanaliveA pic is worth 1000 posts!! Post Number: 6500 Registered: Jun-06 | ^^^It is a VERY tough contest between the two. I love them both. In the end though it will come down to budget. I'm anxiously awaiting the new Mag line, just for giggles. |
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New member Username: CharlesbhsPost Number: 9 Registered: Jan-07 | Does anybody have any idea's of 4" speakers?? i was thinking about redoing the whole speaker system as well and add a 4 channel amp. hoping to spend around 400-500 |
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Gold Member Username: Crayola0Future 15 Wanger!!, Wisconsin Post Number: 1861 Registered: Jun-06 | Well the 18" Q needs like 6-10 cubes ported so unless it is gunna be sealed..cause he still wants some space but i would do a 15" Q to save some space. |
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Bronze Member Username: CharlesbhsPost Number: 11 Registered: Jan-07 | how much would the mag need? |
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Bronze Member Username: CharlesbhsPost Number: 12 Registered: Jan-07 | how many cubes ported would the mag need?* |
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Gold Member Username: BernymacCambodian Post Number: 2689 Registered: Sep-04 | If you really want sq, go with 2 12's. 2 JL W6v2's or w/e version is out now. Give them a total of about 1000rms and you'll have a good sounding sq system. any of the other sub's mentioned above take upwards of 1000rms each. Its kind of a waste if you bought two of them because you can't fully power them. If you decide to go with the Fi Q's. Just get 1. |
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Bronze Member Username: CharlesbhsPost Number: 13 Registered: Jan-07 | i still think 15" and 18" is still to big. isn't there any good but power full 12 or 10 inch sub? |
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Silver Member Username: •cam•Post Number: 333 Registered: Nov-06 | 3.5 tuned to 30hz. talk to logan, of immortal box building, or mark potts for a box. if you want a quote from logan just post a thread with his name and enclosure in it. he'll be there in 5 seconds tops if he's on lol. but anyway. http://thecaraudiobox.com/ |
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Gold Member Username: BernymacCambodian Post Number: 2691 Registered: Sep-04 | you might also want to look into tcsounds. www.tcsounds.com |
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Silver Member Username: •cam•Post Number: 334 Registered: Nov-06 | a single 15" Q would sound good. it would get loud and you would still have a fair bit of space left. at least half of your trunk. |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Southeast PA Post Number: 2396 Registered: Jul-06 | Lets review, you've got about 10 ft3 of usable space...... Q 15" takes a 2.8-4 ft3 box. Q 18" takes a 6-10 ft3 box. Somebody want to tell me how this isn't going to work, lol. |
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Gold Member Username: JohnfiacA-ToWn, 152-153db Da... My wangers b... Post Number: 2793 Registered: Mar-06 | ^i can give you an idea.... entrance space since he doesnt want to do anything custom with the car... may not want to take out backseats if needed to get the box in.. |
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Silver Member Username: Jesse59672OK Post Number: 313 Registered: Feb-07 | since when can you say shitload |
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Bronze Member Username: CharlesbhsPost Number: 16 Registered: Jan-07 | how about two 12" w3v3 in a ported box |
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Silver Member Username: J_c_wheeler8Columbus, IN United States Post Number: 564 Registered: May-06 | Rate these: 15 Q Ported 15 Q Sealed 18 Q Ported 18 Q Sealed My trunk is tight on space and I'm looking for SQ. |
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