Ok To Clip ?
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Bronze Member Username: Kpa2727Post Number: 15 Registered: May-07 | i been messing with my system all day i have 4 infinity subs at a 4 ohm load. so i set my gain set my crossovers around 50 hz and almost crapped at how loud this thing came to be from all the times the gain was never set like this, so anywho i realized after setting it my one eq setting i think sla something was still on and i thought it was off. well i re tuned it and now at the correct voltage with sublime my clip light was fluttering on and off at heavy hits so without a meter i turned the gain down trying to eliminate clip but i turned the gain down decently and i don't wanna go much more but the clip light flashes on deep bass hits. is this ok and will sufice? plus my volumes a little low and i upped the sla plus set crossover on my pioneer hu for high pass 80 hz i believe and turned my mid setting up by 5 i still got an overwhelming amount of bass apposed to when i set it up with the eq on 4 where my system sounded pretty well balenced. should i go back to tuning it with eq set to 4 and just adjust my other settings to balence audio or should everything be of like it is now and the flashing clip lights find? keep in mind i had no light flash the other way and my interior lights made no blink nothing on the heaviest bass hits, and now besides clip light flash i get a tiny dim on and off with bass hits from interior lights. any advice???? |
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Gold Member Username: JuliobSanto DomingoDominican Re... Post Number: 4590 Registered: Dec-05 | clipping is never ok you know, cuz that's bad. But depends in the amount. Tell us your system and the size of your alt. |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Southeast PA Post Number: 2348 Registered: Jul-06 | Clipping is bad. Very bad. Set your gain the right way: Use this calculator: http://www.subwoofertools.com/forum/setgain.asp And this tutorial: http://mobile.jlaudio.com/support_pages.php?page_id=143 |
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Bronze Member Username: Kpa2727Post Number: 18 Registered: May-07 | i tuned everything to what that tutorial said and my clip light was flashing so like i said i turned it down without a volt meter attached at that time to try and eliminate clip, i got it to stay off until really heavey heavy bass hits like in the cd sublime and at a volume of 35 that goes to 62. the cars alt idk it's a oldsmobile 93, eighty eight 4 door 6 cyl. ok heres my setup , a infinity 611a reference series amp with specs of this 456w rms x 1 channel at 4 ohms and <1% thd + n signal to noise ratio. 70dba (reference 1w into 4 ohms) 657w rms x 1 channel at 2ohms, 14.4v supply and <1% thd + n, Dynamic power 761 w at 2 ohms effective damping factor 6.336 at 4 ohms frequency response 17hz - 251hz, (-3db) maximum signal input : 6v maximum senseitivity 75mv. output regulation 179 db at 4 ohms i have the 2 infinity 10's at 1052watts and 250 watt rms, along with 2, 12's at 1252 watts and 300 watt rms. dual voice coils for both in 2 sealed boxes with a pioneer 4800 mp at 50x 4 rms |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Southeast PA Post Number: 2349 Registered: Jul-06 | If you set the gain according to that procedure and it still clips, then your amp isn't producing it's rated power. Either the amp is overrated or your electrical system voltage is dropping. In any case, just turn it down until it doesn't clip anymore. |
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Bronze Member Username: Kpa2727Post Number: 19 Registered: May-07 | is it possible it has been damaged? because i had the amp for a year. at best buy installer tuned it up for me, and he didn't ever use a tool on it he just listened and turned knobs. i should of done like i did with the install and did a the tuning myself cause a year later the woofers blew. i have everything under warrenty, it goes bad i get a new one, no cost. so i replaced the woofers and i'm now doing everything the right way. so should the amp be replaced?? |
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Gold Member Username: Van_manBoston South, MA Post Number: 2384 Registered: Mar-06 | Clip: Indicates the amplifier is being overdriven, and your speakers may be in danger. This should blink only on musical peaks, and not be on constantly. From the owners manual. The clip light does blink. Its normal for Eclipse. |
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Bronze Member Username: Kpa2727Post Number: 20 Registered: May-07 | i appriciate the info except its a infinity amp but ether way i think i'll replace the amp under warrenty tomm to be safe and re tune. |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Southeast PA Post Number: 2351 Registered: Jul-06 | No the amp is not damaged. Just set the gain correctly, and listen to Marc: If he says it's normal for the light to blink, then it should be fine. I assume he has experience with that amp. |
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Gold Member Username: Freezeman_7C.FREE Post Number: 1120 Registered: May-06 | no ur clpping is fine. its wen the clip light stays on its bad, read ur instruction manual, i had an infinity ref. 611a |
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Silver Member Username: ClouduzPost Number: 212 Registered: Jun-06 | umm...what gauge wire you got running to the amps? |
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Bronze Member Username: Kpa2727Post Number: 21 Registered: May-07 | at the moment i believe its 4 gauge its a rock ford fosgate 1000 watt kit for the wires thier about a year and a half old but i have new ends re cut and added for the olds so its fresh wire at the ends but the battery clips the same. otherwise everything runs ok it hits so effen hard my father has this steel tube canopy about 40 ft from my car where it was parked and all the tubes in the canopy were rattleing the bass just hits like never before its acctually painful anywhere near mid volume. my ears actually hurt from the preassure standing behind the car so thats why i'm makin sure everythings alright. i never had a big system but i migght of jumped from an ok system to a monster. |
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Bronze Member Username: Kpa2727Post Number: 22 Registered: May-07 | i've checked the pdf cause for some reason when i bought my amp at bb i never got a book it does acctually state its ok to flash so i guess i'm all clear but the amp has been incorrectly driven for almost a year so tomm i prob will use the warrenty but it does one hell of a job, infinity i herd of for years but just recently thier audio showed up at best buy so what do u guys think are they some real decent stuff or a brand destined to be ranked as a rockford which i know used to be good but now ranks close to audibahn or dual from what i've heard. |
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Gold Member Username: Van_manBoston South, MA Post Number: 2385 Registered: Mar-06 | Sorry, I meant infinity. Yes, I did have one. Here I am reading the manual.  |
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Silver Member Username: _jay_Post Number: 205 Registered: Mar-06 | ROFL!!!!!good memories....btw..ur dog has a stubby tail lol..whats the kicker box for? wow...i didn't know that u were a remote dealer also..haa j\p!! |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Southeast PA Post Number: 2481 Registered: Jul-06 | lol Jay, this is the setup Marc had in his van: https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/system-showcase/313839.html |
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Bronze Member Username: BreakdownPost Number: 12 Registered: May-07 | clipping isnt necessarily dangerous but for sonic reasons, probly best to avoid |
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Bronze Member Username: Kpa2727Post Number: 75 Registered: May-07 | i backed my gain down, my sytems not ear bleeding as it was. but the truth is i want to enjoy it, not go deaf. it's fine i still got plenty of bump in the trunk without the power demanding scream my system was doing and demanding. i can live with for my standards above average bass as apposed to the extream bass. |
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Gold Member Username: JohnfiacA-ToWn, Kingkong ain... I got Chuck ... Post Number: 2846 Registered: Mar-06 | " don't wanna go much more but the clip light flashes on deep bass hits. is this ok and will sufice?" "should blink only on musical peaks, and not be on constantly. " -Marc Does that answer the question? |
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