Pick your subs!!
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Bronze Member Username: Gula187Baton Rouge, Louisiana USA Post Number: 53 Registered: Mar-07 | which will be louder in a proper setup? solo x 18 btl 18 dd 9515 mojo 15 |
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Gold Member Username: TanmanfoshoFi SSD15 Wangers Post Number: 1062 Registered: Nov-06 | DD |
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Gold Member Username: Extrmndor3IF U HEAR ME... crazydbs.com Post Number: 4647 Registered: Feb-06 | ATOMIC APXX OR THE RD AUDIO HEAVYWEIGHTS BUT THE ONES U MENTIONED THE SOLOS WILL BE PRETTY CLOSE TO THE DD;S OR MIGHT BE ALIL LOUDER BUT HEY DD WILL SOUND MUCH NICER |
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Gold Member Username: Logan__tilleHamilton, Indiana United states Post Number: 7058 Registered: Feb-06 | SOLO X will tear DD a New assh0le |
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Silver Member Username: Volfenhagking160015 SSD Wangin, Shawano, Wis... USA Post Number: 623 Registered: Oct-06 | logan arent you in school???? |
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Gold Member Username: Logan__tilleHamilton, Indiana United states Post Number: 7059 Registered: Feb-06 | No, im sick...I gots to stay home |
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Platinum Member Username: BestmankindLos Angeles, CA USA Post Number: 12331 Registered: Oct-05 | ^^^^^bs |
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Silver Member Username: Volfenhagking160015 SSD Wangin, Shawano, Wis... USA Post Number: 624 Registered: Oct-06 | lol  |
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Gold Member Username: Logan__tilleHamilton, Indiana United states Post Number: 7061 Registered: Feb-06 | lol shut up. I am. |
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Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 2204 Registered: Jul-06 | It would be close between the Solo X and the BTL 18.The others would fall behind. |
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Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 2205 Registered: Jul-06 | ^Even with equal power I still don't know which would win.Hmm... |
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Platinum Member Username: BestmankindLos Angeles, CA USA Post Number: 12333 Registered: Oct-05 | i would say in a same car, box, amp, etc.... it would be hard to tell. but the difference wouldn't be much. |
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Bronze Member Username: Gula187Baton Rouge, Louisiana USA Post Number: 54 Registered: Mar-07 | i wanted to ask to see if the btl is the only top dog |
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Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 2211 Registered: Jul-06 | The BTL isn't the top dog =/ It should take the Solo X in SQ as well but the SPL output may be equal,less or even more |
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Silver Member Username: 04redmach1Columbus, GA USA Post Number: 572 Registered: Mar-06 | Actually Logan, I have to say form experience, DD tears the solo's a new @sshole. I have 2 guys out of NC, that are both running 4 Sundown SAZ-1500D's. 1 is running 2 9515's, other running 2 Solox 18's. The solos are at 151, and the DD's are at a 153.4 I think it is. Solos are just so inefficient. If you want loud and efficient, the DD's, the RD heavy or super heavy built for music would be your better choice. The BTL's are decent, but for daily, I don't like them. Tinsel leads slapping spyder and rubbing hole is never good. I have heard a few of these cases too, so they need to re-engineer that. Kevin |
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Gold Member Username: Denali_on_22sHit you in the chest m... Post Number: 2131 Registered: Feb-06 | If you have a powerplant to throw at them then go with the solos (i would say) if you only have around 3000 watts then go DD. I would honestly say if you intend to compete go solos too just because they can be reconed so easily.. And kevin I know you know that story you talked about is all about install... |
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Gold Member Username: Tdeaton1021Near Tampa, Florida USA Post Number: 4183 Registered: Sep-04 | tony, if this is your daily setup. DD should get 9/10 of the votes. VERY loud and good SQ. thats all that really needs to be said. I dont think tony is trying and capable of hitting 160 with a single sub. if so, i think the solo X has the best chance. but since I'm pretty sure of my assumtion, DD9518 |
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Platinum Member Username: BestmankindLos Angeles, CA USA Post Number: 12335 Registered: Oct-05 | kevin what vehicles are they in. that makes a big diffrence. |
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Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 2214 Registered: Jul-06 | "Actually Logan, I have to say form experience, DD tears the solo's a new @sshole. I have 2 guys out of NC, that are both running 4 Sundown SAZ-1500D's. 1 is running 2 9515's, other running 2 Solox 18's. The solos are at 151, and the DD's are at a 153.4 I think it is. Solos are just so inefficient. If you want loud and efficient, the DD's, the RD heavy or super heavy built for music would be your better choice. The BTL's are decent, but for daily, I don't like them. Tinsel leads slapping spyder and rubbing hole is never good. I have heard a few of these cases too, so they need to re-engineer that. Kevin" Sorry to say but DD got stomped at Usaci World Finals.Kicker took pretty much every class too... |
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Platinum Member Username: BestmankindLos Angeles, CA USA Post Number: 12337 Registered: Oct-05 | also kev if you are gonna compare like that, tuan from team toxic bass is doing 155db with 2 solo x 10s. |
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Silver Member Username: Dakangofkrunk162Post Number: 108 Registered: Apr-07 | hay man if u got some serious money get a DD Z series that will with proper install and watts that will not only tear a Solo a new @$$ but also Fluck it in it @$$ didnt no subs had @SSes tho lol but ti will cost u some series bread if not Solo X SPL but overall id get the 9515 the btl could also be good deending on install really |
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Silver Member Username: 04redmach1Columbus, GA USA Post Number: 573 Registered: Mar-06 | Well, I am basing it on a daily setup. Those setups are in a tahoe and esky, same basis. Same guy built boxes and tuned in mid 40's. Basically my little story was to show, DD's are alot more efficient subs and on a daily smaller powered setup, the DD's are untouchable compared to the solos. Kevin |
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Gold Member Username: Denali_on_22sHit you in the chest m... Post Number: 2136 Registered: Feb-06 | still say it depends on alot... |
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Gold Member Username: Logan__tilleHamilton, Indiana United states Post Number: 7076 Registered: Feb-06 | Power for power DD>Kicker. after so much power the SoloX takes over. |
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Gold Member Username: JakeyplaysbassSt. Louis, MO Post Number: 1695 Registered: Jul-05 | box box box box box box box box. |
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Gold Member Username: DrivingrecklessDD 9515f, 147.8 db Mov... Post Number: 3351 Registered: Apr-06 | solox > dd 9515 > fi btl > mojo 15 |
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Platinum Member Username: BestmankindLos Angeles, CA USA Post Number: 12340 Registered: Oct-05 | lol. not your model dd dave. its outdated now. rofl. gotta get the new ones.  |
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Gold Member Username: DrivingrecklessDD 9515f, 147.8 db Mov... Post Number: 3352 Registered: Apr-06 | lol i bet YOU cant make one of your BTLS with 3krms hit 147.8 |
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Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 2217 Registered: Jul-06 | ^Ouch!Burn |
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Silver Member Username: JblanfordPost Number: 846 Registered: Oct-06 | "lol i bet YOU cant make one of your BTLS with 3krms hit 147.8" i bet he could |
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Platinum Member Username: BestmankindLos Angeles, CA USA Post Number: 12341 Registered: Oct-05 | man if i changed box as much as you did i probably would of hit more. |
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Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 2218 Registered: Jul-06 | David changes boxes more than he changes....bah nevermind it's too used already. |
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Platinum Member Username: BestmankindLos Angeles, CA USA Post Number: 12342 Registered: Oct-05 | btw if you can make your single dd play 145+db on music for 30 second average then come say sh!t. i can make a box that sounds like sh!t but loud and get the #'s i want. but who wants to drive around playing test tones all day long. |
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Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 2219 Registered: Jul-06 | ^Me? |
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Silver Member Username: SheriffPost Number: 370 Registered: Jan-07 | ^^Me if it keeps me from having to give people rides all the time. |
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Platinum Member Username: BestmankindLos Angeles, CA USA Post Number: 12344 Registered: Oct-05 | oh yeah i forgot. btw dave i am just talking sh!t so don't take it personally. i know how sensitive you can be. got a secret project coming up in a month. it will be insane. |
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Gold Member Username: SouthernrebelMonroe, Louisiana DD 9515d~~]... Post Number: 4852 Registered: Mar-04 | I really dont like SoloX 18's...just not my cup of tea. Especially in stock and pro-stock classes, maybe in mod or super-mod though. I have handed people w/ soloX 18's there azz on more than one occasion. (If I was doing X's, I would really rather run the X12's than X18..especially since kicker came out w/ the stonger SPAIRs) Power for power...I would prolly have to go 9515/BTL over the X18. (For daily/spl on 2000-3500w) Also, install and vehicle are EVERYTHING. Matt Sibley is doing 155's in Usaci SB w/ 3 CVX 10's...lol, in a rex though. Btw, 146.5+ in SB2 w/ 1 sub, 1 amp, 1 batt (stock w/ rediculous voltage drops and a fvkt up HU), 48hz  |
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Gold Member Username: DrivingrecklessDD 9515f, 147.8 db Mov... Post Number: 3353 Registered: Apr-06 | LOL chad didnt it take you 2 15" subs and 5 krms to hit 147??? ive only made 4 spl boxes...and they all play music fine considering thier all tuned to 45 or less which is fine with a DD woofer. oh im makin a new one btw 150???? with 1/2 the subs and 1/4 of your power in a bigger vehicle chad??? oh and at least when i hit 150, im not gunna pay someone to do it like ive sed numerous times unless YOU hit 150 with YOUR box its not YOUR 150 lets not try to trash talk  b/c i can be a dick |
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Platinum Member Username: BestmankindLos Angeles, CA USA Post Number: 12345 Registered: Oct-05 | lol yea u win. |
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Silver Member Username: 04redmach1Columbus, GA USA Post Number: 574 Registered: Mar-06 | I have heard alot of problems with the BTL's though. Me, myself, and I hate the Memphs Mojo, and could care less for Solo-x. Oh well, we all have opinions, like @ssholes, they all stink Kevin |
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Gold Member Username: DrivingrecklessDD 9515f, 147.8 db Mov... Post Number: 3354 Registered: Apr-06 | ""lol i bet YOU cant make one of your BTLS with 3krms hit 147.8" i bet he could " no you cant joe TCAB can do it for ya tho |
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Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 2220 Registered: Jul-06 | "I really dont like SoloX 18's...just not my cup of tea. Especially in stock and pro-stock classes, maybe in mod or super-mod though. I have handed people w/ soloX 18's there azz on more than one occasion. (If I was doing X's, I would really rather run the X12's than X18..especially since kicker came out w/ the stonger SPAIRs) Power for power...I would prolly have to go 9515/BTL over the X18. (For daily/spl on 2000-3500w) Also, install and vehicle are EVERYTHING. Matt Sibley is doing 155's in Usaci SB w/ 3 CVX 10's...lol, in a rex though. " Well Canaan,the new SPAIR will come out for the Solo X 18 too.There is a lot more I can say toward your post but there's no reason,no good would come out of it. |
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Gold Member Username: SouthernrebelMonroe, Louisiana DD 9515d~~]... Post Number: 4854 Registered: Mar-04 | |
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Bronze Member Username: Gula187Baton Rouge, Louisiana USA Post Number: 56 Registered: Mar-07 | i heard alot of people saying that they have problems with the tinsel slap on the btl's and for the price of a 9515 i can get a solo x 18 |
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Gold Member Username: Logan__tilleHamilton, Indiana United states Post Number: 7083 Registered: Feb-06 | jeeeezzz lol |
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Silver Member Username: JkidderSpring hill, Florida Usa Post Number: 449 Registered: Nov-05 | lol poor guy doesnt kno wat he wants. wat amp do u plan on getting or have? if u have over 3K get solo x. anything less i'd recommend the 9515 |
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Gold Member Username: Tremor1127Fi Car Audio has got m... Post Number: 1405 Registered: Aug-06 | these threads suck... |
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Silver Member Username: Solobaric4lifePost Number: 637 Registered: Jan-07 | Actually Logan, I have to say form experience, DD tears the solo's a new @sshole. I have 2 guys out of NC, that are both running 4 Sundown SAZ-1500D's. 1 is running 2 9515's, other running 2 Solox 18's. The solos are at 151, and the DD's are at a 153.4 I think it is. Solos are just so inefficient. If you want loud and efficient, the DD's, the RD heavy or super heavy built for music would be your better choice. The BTL's are decent, but for daily, I don't like them. Tinsel leads slapping spyder and rubbing hole is never good. I have heard a few of these cases too, so they need to re-engineer that. Kevin dude if 2 solo-x 18's only hit 151, id have to say tat is the worst setup in the world, u could have 1 solo-x in a good install and go waaaay past 151, here is 2 solo-x 18's that hit 169.8, almost 170 with 2 18's wow  but i'd take the btl over the dd in spl too, jmo, sql dd the best |
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Silver Member Username: Solobaric4lifePost Number: 638 Registered: Jan-07 | off subject i heard 2 mojo's with 1 memphis 4k, that hit 154 something, not too long ago |
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Bronze Member Username: Gula187Baton Rouge, Louisiana USA Post Number: 57 Registered: Mar-07 | well that im going to have are 2 fosgate t40001bd's |
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Platinum Member Username: Chaunb3400Huntsville, Alabama U.S. Post Number: 12192 Registered: Jul-05 | funny thread..hitting high numbers are much more then what subs u use...it has to do with so much sh!t....just because i hit 145 in Alabama with a setup doesnt mean i will hit 145 in Cali with chad...with the same exact setup on the same day at the same time.. Just get whatever the FU@K u want!!! |
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Gold Member Username: Safe_crackerChicago, IL US Post Number: 2703 Registered: Jan-06 | You know it is all good and installation/setup is key here! Think about it if someone can make a type R or a sony hit 150 then more people here should be hitting them numbers. What I have seen on this forum is a bunch of change-out wh0res and people need to tweek there existing setup before switching out the sub. Honestly I am surprised that people are getting such poor numbers with the 9515, which seems everyone has more money for subs but not enough for a proper power plant, lol. Polo.. |
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Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 2256 Registered: Jul-06 | "You know it is all good and installation/setup is key here! Think about it if someone can make a type R or a sony hit 150 then more people here should be hitting them numbers. What I have seen on this forum is a bunch of change-out wh0res and people need to tweek there existing setup before switching out the sub. Honestly I am surprised that people are getting such poor numbers with the 9515, which seems everyone has more money for subs but not enough for a proper power plant, lol. Polo.. " Polo what are you hittin with your setup?You should get a 9515 and show these fools what's up |
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Gold Member Username: Safe_crackerChicago, IL US Post Number: 2704 Registered: Jan-06 | I keep it on the DL but after the box is in and I know I have given it 100% then I will try a 9515 in the Treo's place. I am just waitng for the weather to be consistant so the resin and everything will setup faster/better. Polo.. |
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Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 2265 Registered: Jul-06 | Yea man,this weather blows nutz.Everytime I get back into running it turns shi±±y outside. |
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Silver Member Username: DenimWww.TeamSSAudio.com, MD Post Number: 172 Registered: Nov-06 | I would be interested to hear about these problems with BTL's. |
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New member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1 Registered: Apr-07 | I'm supprised so many people aren't leaning towards the BTLs. I've heard all but the DDs, so I'm not sure what to say with those. The biggest factor is the install, so I'd go for the best buy. (The BTL) An 18 inch BTL with options meant for daily listening will cost less than $500. Recones mailed to your door are between 1-150. Someone said they'd like to see 1 btl 18 hit 150, I had 2kws going to 1 btl 18 hit 149.x @42hz in a yukon, tuned around 35hz. With 2 btl 18s I hit 151 @ 42hz, and 149.8 around 33hz. Since then I've changed amps to 2 memphis 4ks, which should be giving them a lot more power then they were before, but again, I'm tuned to be good for daily. And as far as daily listening, on these amps, with proper eq I think these spl 18s sound better than "SQ" drivers I've owned before. Better than some alpine type-xs and JL w6v2s, even a 12w7 I heard. Just stayed clean, smooth, and accurate as it continued to get louder. Hands down one of the best subs I've ever experienced. With 2kws it's extremely loud, with 4k the excursion is incredible, and it takes the beating all day. I've never had a problem with holes wearing in my subs, and I've been playing them for around 6 months now, heavily I should add :D . I don't know who had problems, but I'm extremely satisfied, and the customer service is 2nd to none. My 2 cents for what it's worth. |
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Bronze Member Username: Gula187Baton Rouge, Louisiana USA Post Number: 58 Registered: Mar-07 | will the solo x be a good sub for rap? because of the flat bass lines in rap a spl sub will briing the out so the x should do good,right or wrong |
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New member Username: RealbleachPost Number: 1 Registered: Apr-07 | Any sub will be good for rap or bass over all... I see people talk about SPL numbers, and this vs that and in all fairness (and i am sure those with the slightest knowledge here will agree) that one sub in one car installed one way with one xover setting CAN NOT be compared to another sub in another car in another installation with another xover.... It is PLAIN knowledge that i can take a excellently made sub and have it sound like crap by using a shitty enclosure, shitty amp and poor voltage......... then have all the "know-it-all" go and say "I hear that noname sub has problems with tinsel slaps/Leads" Of course they don't "know" the circumstances of WHY the tinsel leads had an issue, but through lack of common knowledge they blame the sub (especially if they do not sell that particular product).... If anyone blames the subs engineering based on "I heard" then I sure as hell wouldn't be buying anything from that person. since it's obvious that they would believe anything that they HEARD..... On the flip side i can take a poorly made sub, build the right enclosure for the right cars resonance, with HQ amps, stable voltage and set my xovers perfect and have a bunch of newb's running around saying "Wow that crapname sub was louder then that noname sub"..... My advice is plain and simple when you SHOP for a sub look at a few things FIRST Customer service........ Do they personally answer your questions, can you contact them in more then one way and how do they handle warranties.. 2. Reputation.. do they hold themselves like a good company should... or do they spew rumors about competing products to TRY and make what they are selling SEEM better. I know a few companies here will actually HELP you with a product they don't sell/manufacture or distribute nor would they stoop so low as to sling "I heard this about that" like a child would on a playground.... If they have to put another product down that means that the product they sell must NOT be that good since it can't SELL ITSELF (thus the reason for putting down a competing product) last of all Find someone who has what you are comparing and ask them for a demo.... Granted it isn't going to be exactly like YOUR set up will be but atleast you can hear the differences.. If you want to run 800 watts to the above mentioned subs find someone with that sub close to your wattage and ask for a demo... instead of relying on what others "HEAR" rely on what you HEAR... research research research find the products "OFFICIAL" forum and see what ACTUAL users of the products have to say..... not thrid party hear-say... |
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