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Bronze Member Username: FearthisskyyCarrollton, Texas United states Post Number: 23 Registered: Apr-07 | I plan on getting 2 12s or 1 15, and people have been saying positive stuff about these two brands often. Which one would be better? 2 12s: Audioque SD2.5 or Fi.SSD 1 15s: Audioque HD3 or Fi.Q15 maybe Fi.BTL15 which sub will hit harder and deeper? preferably for rap/hiphop music? would 1 15 or 2 12s work best? how do these compare to these Kickers? (my old subs before my car was totaled) http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Kicker-Dual-12-Subwoofer-Enclosure-Package-DC12/s em/rpsm/oid/117694/catOid/-13093/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do |
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Bronze Member Username: DlavanteTigard, Or USA Post Number: 55 Registered: Feb-07 | audioque and fi are waaay better than kicker |
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Silver Member Username: The_image_dynamicSan Diego Post Number: 831 Registered: Dec-06 | The bottom line is this... the HD3 and BTL both want way more power than you will have to offer without upgrading your alt/battery. I would say the best bet for you would be to get one Fi BL15, put it in a 3.1-3.5 cu/ft ported box, and throw 1000-1200 clean watts at it. This setup will be brutal on rap in an suv, in the neighborhood of 140dB. |
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Gold Member Username: BernymacCambodian Post Number: 2438 Registered: Sep-04 | I think Chauncey would be the best person to answer this question. He's tested the Q, BL, SSD, and Sd2.5. I don't think he's tested or hear the hd3 and btl though. But if your choices come down to the Q, BL, SSD and sd2.5 Chauncey's opinion will probaly help the most. But if it was me in your situation, I would do two fi SSD's. I hate to jump on the Fi Bandwagon but thats just me :\. |
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Silver Member Username: DenimWww.TeamSSAudio.com, MD Post Number: 145 Registered: Nov-06 | FI is popular for a reason, not a bandwagon. |
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Silver Member Username: TatonkaPost Number: 143 Registered: Mar-07 | ^^^ POST x2 I own a SSD 15" and everyone can tell my system from every one elses in this town. You can't go wrong with FI. |
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Silver Member Username: ShowridesHartford, CT USA Post Number: 432 Registered: Feb-06 | To answer your questions, 2 12" SD2.5's will get louder than a single ssd. An HD3 will be a lot louder than a FI Q. An HD3 would be on par with a BTL SPL wise. Both the HD3 and the BTL will be able to handle massive amounts of power, and chances are you won't be able to use either to their full potential without some electrical upgrades. I have used an Hd3 before and they still get very loud and sound good with only 1000rms. That would be a good option if you want a lot of deep bass. If you want to go with 2 12's though I would go with the SD2.5's if you want more output. |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Southeast PA Post Number: 1466 Registered: Jul-06 | It all depends on how much power you're running |
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Silver Member Username: Teamdeboy1971OPTIDRIVE LN., TN Major Bass P... Post Number: 490 Registered: Nov-06 | wassup everyone??? |
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Silver Member Username: Volfenhagking160015 SSD Wangin, Shawano, Wis... USA Post Number: 572 Registered: Oct-06 | nick v, u have a suv? |
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Silver Member Username: Solobaric4lifeSeminole, Al United states Post Number: 564 Registered: Jan-07 | i heard that exact kicker comp box-sub u posted and they are quiet instead of loud lol either other subs u posted with put a mudhole in the comps, i love both, AQ and FI |
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Gold Member Username: Nyyfan13Fi SSD USA Post Number: 4705 Registered: Jul-06 | "I think Chauncey would be the best person to answer this question. He's tested the Q, BL, SSD, and Sd2.5. I don't think he's tested or hear the hd3 and btl though. But if your choices come down to the Q, BL, SSD and sd2.5 Chauncey's opinion will probaly help the most." if im not mistaken, i believe i have seen chauncey say SSD over sd2.5... |
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Gold Member Username: J_baby15DiRtY 5oUtH ... Post Number: 1552 Registered: Feb-06 | how bout 2 DD2512s? SD2.5 is AQ's version of them, so I'd say they'd b about the same and I could probably get them for you cheaper if your planning on buying these brand new. |
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Gold Member Username: J_baby15DiRtY 5oUtH ... Post Number: 1554 Registered: Feb-06 | dint bump.. |
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Silver Member Username: TatonkaPost Number: 159 Registered: Mar-07 | "nick v, u have a suv?" I have a normal car. |
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Bronze Member Username: JtownPost Number: 87 Registered: Mar-07 | Nick V, have you gotten that SSD metered yet? What kind of box do you have? How much are you pushin it with? I've been considering getting one. |
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New member Username: FirefoxxyBakersfield, Ca. Post Number: 1 Registered: Apr-07 | On the recommendation of a friend who has the 18 BTL Fi sub and absolutely loves it, I bought the 15 BTL Fi sub and put it in a 3.5 cu. ft. box powered by the 4000 watt hifonics 2006d amp. Also running 8 kickers for mids and tweets powered by 1000 watt MA audio amp. Yellow top up front plus a 5 FARAD compacitor... Haven't got to hear it yet, will pick it up in 2 hours, can't wait!!! What do you guys think about this set-up? It's going in a Ford Excursion. Thanx, Marcia |
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Silver Member Username: TatonkaPost Number: 169 Registered: Mar-07 | "Nick V, have you gotten that SSD metered yet?" *Yes I have, on a TL, I did a legal test and hit 142.9 on music. "What kind of box do you have?" *Ported tuned to 31hz "How much are you pushin it with?" *Im pushing it with a Hifonics BXI 1206D wired at 1 ohm "I've been considering getting one." *Consider no more, you will NOT be dissapointed. It is the best bang for your buck. |
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Silver Member Username: Volfenhagking160015 SSD Wangin, Shawano, Wis... USA Post Number: 584 Registered: Oct-06 | ur givin ur ssd 1200 watts? Do you have a flatwind coil? |
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Silver Member Username: Trey4sportsPost Number: 986 Registered: Sep-06 | "On the recommendation of a friend who has the 18 BTL Fi sub and absolutely loves it, I bought the 15 BTL Fi sub and put it in a 3.5 cu. ft. box powered by the 4000 watt hifonics 2006d amp. Also running 8 kickers for mids and tweets powered by 1000 watt MA audio amp. Yellow top up front plus a 5 FARAD compacitor... Haven't got to hear it yet, will pick it up in 2 hours, can't wait!!! What do you guys think about this set-up? It's going in a Ford Excursion." sounds very nice. good luck |
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Platinum Member Username: Chaunb3400Huntsville, Alabama U.S. Post Number: 12130 Registered: Jul-05 | Lots of different options all of which will turn out great if i wanted 2 12's...i would get the SSD's with the FlatwindCoil..since they do very well sealed and ported.(even though the Sd2.5's would still be very close in both sq and spl but require a larger box) If i wanted a 1 sub setup it would probaly be the HD3 for the same reason that showrides said..even with 1000rms the HD3 would be amazing...Not sure about 1000rms on a BTL.(maybe a waste?)and the Q only if space where limited and budget was tight but then again...im not sure how much power you have?? Any charging system upgrades?? Overall goal of your setup?? Budget??? Space?? Etc. |
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Silver Member Username: TatonkaPost Number: 175 Registered: Mar-07 | "ur givin ur ssd 1200 watts? Do you have a flatwind coil?" Yes i do have a flatwind coil. The sub takes it like a champ. |
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Silver Member Username: Ceoofdaroc4Post Number: 176 Registered: Mar-07 | If I have a closed trunk with seats tht don't fold down should I get sealed or ported and flatwind or copper coil?? (Or watever the other 1 is called) and which version should I get if I wana run it at 2 ohms bcuz my amp gives out 800 watts at 2 ohms... |
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Gold Member Username: CtmikeCt. Post Number: 3998 Registered: Feb-06 | i'd go with the copper coils, ported, and dual 1ohm sub. |
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Silver Member Username: Ceoofdaroc4Post Number: 178 Registered: Mar-07 | Explain 2 me why I should get copper coil and ported and is the 1 ohm version capable of being run at 2 ohms??? Thank u... |
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Gold Member Username: CtmikeCt. Post Number: 3999 Registered: Feb-06 | copper coil (i believe) improves sq a little? and since your not running alot of power to it i'd get that over the flatwind since that improves power handling. but if planning on upgrading your amp i'd get the flatwind. ported tuned low for more output and yes the dual 1ohm vc sub will wire down to 2ohms. |
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Silver Member Username: Fi_car_audioHades, NV Post Number: 126 Registered: Sep-06 | [spam] We will be adding the copper D1 coils to the SSD today/tomorrow as well as some other options for the SSD and Q series subs to up power handling for them. [/spam] Thanks and have a good weekend |
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Gold Member Username: Logan__tilleHttp://com4.runboard.c..., Imortal Box ... Logan116600@... Post Number: 6957 Registered: Feb-06 | spam? That wasnt spam? |
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Bronze Member Username: FearthisskyyCarrollton, Texas United states Post Number: 32 Registered: Apr-07 | I think since my budget is short, and I don't want to upgrade the powering system that I am going to pick out the Fi Q15 and run it with the Kicker ZX1000.1 How does this sound? Should I get this new "Copper Coil" everyone is talking about or not? I've talked to some people and think they putting the sub in a ported enclosure will be best. What should I tune the box to? |
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Silver Member Username: Fi_car_audioHades, NV Post Number: 139 Registered: Sep-06 | With teh Q series subs, we do not have a copper coil option. With the size and length of the Q coil, the copper coil would weigh far too much to be useful. Its an SSD only option. For most daily applications we recommend 30-33Hz for ported. You will definitely have increased output over a sealed setup... if thats what your looking for. Thanks... Scott |
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Bronze Member Username: Big_edge_headPost Number: 49 Registered: Mar-07 | i just orderd a pair of 12'' SD2.5s. i cant wait, i hope there loud. there going in a 4cf box tuned to 35hz, how does that sound to you? |
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Bronze Member Username: FearthisskyyCarrollton, Texas United states Post Number: 34 Registered: Apr-07 | I heard that with the Q series that it still has great SQ even in a ported enclosure, is that true? I am definately not going to bump real loud, will a sealed enclosure get loud enough with better SQ? |
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Bronze Member Username: FearthisskyyCarrollton, Texas United states Post Number: 35 Registered: Apr-07 | I heard that with the Q series that it still has great SQ even in a ported enclosure, is that true? I am definately not going to bump real loud, will a sealed enclosure get loud enough with better SQ? |
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Silver Member Username: Ceoofdaroc4Post Number: 186 Registered: Mar-07 | Yea I kno I want a sub tht has the spl of an L7 and gets real low like make b!tches have an org@sm type lowz.... is the Q tht sub? |
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Silver Member Username: Fi_car_audioHades, NV Post Number: 146 Registered: Sep-06 | lol... not sure about all that. And Im figuring your girl shouldnt be sitting on the cone... thats not covered under the warranty ;) Qs are a nice all around sub. They drop well and surprise most when you get into them with some power. The SSD has been the bassrace sub of choice from Fi, but with Frankie running the Qs in his Lexus, he absolutely blew people away with what they could do and how good they could sound... even in a walled off bassrace setup. Thanks... Scott |
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Silver Member Username: Ceoofdaroc4Post Number: 187 Registered: Mar-07 | So your saying what I would be wanting is an SSd not the Q |
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Silver Member Username: Snarl2004Audioque 12 SD2.5s, Earthquake P... Post Number: 853 Registered: Dec-06 | steve i have 2 sd2.5's in a 5ft^3 box tuned at 40 and there very lound and sound good too. |
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Silver Member Username: Ceoofdaroc4Post Number: 188 Registered: Mar-07 | So your saying what I would be wanting is an SSd not the Q |
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Silver Member Username: Fi_car_audioHades, NV Post Number: 147 Registered: Sep-06 | It looks like you mentioned above that you have 800W to work with at 2 Ohms... if thats the case, then you would probably be best served with the D1 copper coils in an SSD. Itll drop low and sound good doing it. While you do not always have to run RMS to subs, a Q probably wont have much more output or benefit at that power level over the SSD, and why pay more if you arent going to be getting more out of things. Unless you are looking to swap amps out for something larger, or have bigger ambitions for more subs and power down the road... I think the SSD should work well for you. Thanks... Scott |
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Silver Member Username: Ceoofdaroc4Post Number: 190 Registered: Mar-07 | scott was good with that discount on some ssd's??? lol |
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Silver Member Username: DenimWww.TeamSSAudio.com, MD Post Number: 148 Registered: Nov-06 | Remember install is a huge part of the output. |