What amp with Alpine Type r 12's?
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New member Username: NascarfanTallahassee, Florida Post Number: 1 Registered: Mar-07 | Hello, Im new here, I have a question that has prolly been asked a million times but here it is anyways, I have a 1999 Tahoe z71 and I just bought two 12" Type R's last night, and I need to find the right mono amp to power these, I currently have a new Alpine MRP-M850 Mono subwoofer amplifier. I dont believe this will be enough power to run both 12's can you guys give me some imput on a proper amp that will push these subs in a sealed or ported box. Thanks Chris |
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Gold Member Username: CtmikeCt. Post Number: 3616 Registered: Feb-06 | what are the vc of the subs? depending on that you'll want to look for an amp that'll do about 1200-1600wrms at the load you need. |
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New member Username: NascarfanTallahassee, Florida Post Number: 2 Registered: Mar-07 | They are dual voice coils |
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Gold Member Username: CtmikeCt. Post Number: 3619 Registered: Feb-06 | well o.k., all type r's are dual vcs', but are they dual 4 or 2ohm vc? and budget for an amp? |
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New member Username: NascarfanTallahassee, Florida Post Number: 3 Registered: Mar-07 | Amp details Details: » mono subwoofer car amplifier » 500 watts RMS x 1 at 4 ohms (800 watts RMS x 1 at 2 ohms) » CEA-2006 compliant » variable low-pass filter (50-200 Hz, 24 dB/octave) » tuned Bass EQ (0-12 dB bass boost at 50 Hz) » subsonic filter (24 dB at 15 Hz) » MOSFET power supply » STAR Topology (minimizes internal noise and prevents ground interference) » gold-plated screw terminals » speaker- and preamp-level inputs » fuse rating: 25A x 3 Subwoofer details: Alpine Type R 1242D SPECIFICATIONS Power Handling • Power Handling Capacity (Peak) : 1500W • Power Handling Capacity (RMS) : 500W General • Diaphragm Material : Kevlar Reinforced Pulp • Spider Material : Nomex • Frequency Response : 23Hz - 500Hz |
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New member Username: NascarfanTallahassee, Florida Post Number: 4 Registered: Mar-07 | Amp details Details: » mono subwoofer car amplifier » 500 watts RMS x 1 at 4 ohms (800 watts RMS x 1 at 2 ohms) » CEA-2006 compliant » variable low-pass filter (50-200 Hz, 24 dB/octave) » tuned Bass EQ (0-12 dB bass boost at 50 Hz) » subsonic filter (24 dB at 15 Hz) » MOSFET power supply » STAR Topology (minimizes internal noise and prevents ground interference) » gold-plated screw terminals » speaker- and preamp-level inputs » fuse rating: 25A x 3 Subwoofer details: Alpine Type R 1242D SPECIFICATIONS Power Handling Dual Voice-Coil Sensitivity: 87 dB Speaker Configuration: Single Speaker Peak Power Output: 1500 W Diameter: 12 in Cone Style: Cone Cone Material: Kevlar Reinforced Pulp Nominal Impedance: 4 ohm(s) Nominal Input Power Rating: 500 W RMS Power Output: 500 W Overall Max Frequency Response: 500 Hz Overall Min Frequency Response: 24 Hz Maximum Input Power Rating: 1500 W |
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Gold Member Username: CtmikeCt. Post Number: 3620 Registered: Feb-06 | look for an amp that'll do 1200-1600wrms @ 1ohm. |
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New member Username: NascarfanTallahassee, Florida Post Number: 5 Registered: Mar-07 | Can you throw a few name brands out there please |
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Bronze Member Username: TurnmatPost Number: 91 Registered: Feb-07 | if you stay with alpine...they have the pdx 1.1000 or the MRD-M1005. Hifonics BXI1206D but their are alot of other brands out their |
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New member Username: NascarfanTallahassee, Florida Post Number: 6 Registered: Mar-07 | Someone suggested that I might look into a 2 channel amp instead of a mono amp, oh by the way I just returned the Alpine MRP-M850 back to the store, seeing that this amp will not be sufficient to run both subs. |
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Bronze Member Username: TurnmatPost Number: 94 Registered: Feb-07 | the pdx 1.1000 will but out 1000 rms...and that is under rated...it will put out about 1100 watts rms. I actually have a pdx 1.1000 hooked upto two alpine type R subs. And man do they pound!!! |
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Bronze Member Username: TurnmatPost Number: 95 Registered: Feb-07 | oh and by the way it is two channels... |
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New member Username: NascarfanTallahassee, Florida Post Number: 7 Registered: Mar-07 | LOl I just looked on ebay and I think you are selling one of these with the subs right Matt? |
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Bronze Member Username: TurnmatPost Number: 97 Registered: Feb-07 | yea you got it...i am in the middle of re-doing my system |
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New member Username: NascarfanTallahassee, Florida Post Number: 8 Registered: Mar-07 | How about sending me mesage with a price including shipping to 32317, and I will buy it from you if the price is good.also do u have a box for those woofers? |
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Bronze Member Username: TurnmatPost Number: 98 Registered: Feb-07 | i do have the original boxes for the woofers...right now they are in a sealed box... Just for the amp including shipping $374.00 Did you want both the amp+subs and the box for the subs? make me a offer |
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New member Username: NascarfanTallahassee, Florida Post Number: 9 Registered: Mar-07 | Im on my way to work ill talk to you later about this ill be home about 6:30pm eastern time. I just bought the typr R subs last night, im interested in the box for your subs. send me pics to crashhawk1@yahoo.com. I have paypal verified and 99% feedback on ebay with 56 reporting. Thanks Chris |
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Silver Member Username: SheriffPost Number: 138 Registered: Jan-07 | Matt, a pdx 1.1000 is a mono block amp. |
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Silver Member Username: SheriffPost Number: 139 Registered: Jan-07 | You should probably go with a Hifonics BXi 1606D |
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Silver Member Username: SheriffPost Number: 140 Registered: Jan-07 | Good Price from a good seller, no worries... http://cgi.ebay.com/HIFONICS-BXI1606D-BRUTUS-BXI-1606D-CAR-AMP-NEW-2006_W0QQitem Z150101990588QQcategoryZ18797QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
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Bronze Member Username: TurnmatPost Number: 99 Registered: Feb-07 | its mono on the inside but has two speaker outputs |
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Gold Member Username: 420alldaylongPost Number: 1059 Registered: Sep-06 | Christopher Tinter Try this out http://www.techronics.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=3942 |
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Silver Member Username: HootzSaskatoon, Saskatchewan Canada Post Number: 267 Registered: Oct-05 | "the pdx 1.1000 will but out 1000 rms...and that is under rated...it will put out about 1100 watts rms. I actually have a pdx 1.1000 hooked upto two alpine type R subs. And man do they pound!!!" He's got the dual 4 ohm subs, and that's not a 1ohm stable amp. |
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Silver Member Username: TurnmatPost Number: 101 Registered: Feb-07 | it is a two channel amp...look at the pics. it has two channels and it will put out about 1100 watts rms at both four ohm and at two ohm http://www.crutchfield.com/S-iNCiQPanKDV/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=120&tab=morephot os&pi=1&i=500PDX1100&display=L#Tab follow that link..it shows two channels on the amp With my setup i have each sub wired to each channel and it pushes them just fine |
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New member Username: NascarfanTallahassee, Florida Post Number: 10 Registered: Mar-07 | Im back home from work now, ok theres some good imput here, I will prolly run both subs @ 2 ohm because finding a amp that runs stable at 1 ohm is difficult to find, the subs normally are dual voice at 4 ohm. Im trying to get the most out of these subs with out frying an amp. So is a 2 channel amp out of the question?, and I guess what i need is to find a amp that will run 1000-1500 rms per sub. Thanks |
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Silver Member Username: TurnmatPost Number: 102 Registered: Feb-07 | that is alot of power to put to each sub...with that much power it is alot easier to blow your speakers...for that kinda power i would say Hifonics... just my opinion |
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Silver Member Username: SheriffPost Number: 146 Registered: Jan-07 | You should go with the Hifonics BXi1606D 1100 watts rms x1ch @ 2 ohms |
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Silver Member Username: TurnmatPost Number: 103 Registered: Feb-07 | i would agree with Corey on this one...the most i would do is the Hifonics Bxi2006d 1300 watts rms @ 2 ohms |
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Bronze Member Username: NascarfanTallahassee, Florida Post Number: 11 Registered: Mar-07 | Is that per sub or does that get broken down to 500 rms after you bridge to 2 ohms? Im still learning the lingo here sorry.. |
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Silver Member Username: TurnmatPost Number: 104 Registered: Feb-07 | What Corey and me described is only one channel...so that would be for only one sub...but both of those amps go down to 1 ohm. so you could wire your subs to get the max out of either of those amps. The amp Corey said about will put out 1600watts rms @ 1 ohm...800 for each speaker The amp i described will put out 2000 watts rms @ 1 ohm...1000 watts for each speaker |
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Bronze Member Username: NascarfanTallahassee, Florida Post Number: 12 Registered: Mar-07 | If the information is correct below from crutchfield, then the actual rms to 2 subs @ 2 ohm would be 500 rms per sub Details: » mono subwoofer amplifier » 1,000 watts RMS x 1 at 4 ohms (1,000 watts RMS x 1 at 2 ohms) |
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Bronze Member Username: NascarfanTallahassee, Florida Post Number: 13 Registered: Mar-07 | I guess running at 2ohm it would be cooler on the amp instead of running it at 1 ohm each, is either one of those amps you mentioned run stable at 1 ohm? |
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Bronze Member Username: NascarfanTallahassee, Florida Post Number: 14 Registered: Mar-07 | How would this amp do? is it any good? http://cgi.ebay.com/HIFONICS-BRUTUS-BXi2006D-MONO-D-2000W-AMPLIFIER-06-NEW_W0QQi temZ250095803648QQcategoryZ18797QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
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Silver Member Username: TurnmatPost Number: 105 Registered: Feb-07 | the amps that we mention earlier will run at 1 ohm. And the link that you have is actually the amp i was recommending...that amp will do exactly what you want it to |
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Platinum Member Username: RovinMy 1 12 Atom... Post Number: 10989 Registered: Jul-05 | long thread but simply if u have 2 dual 4ohms subs then get a good amp that does about 1200wrms @ 1 ohm if ur subs r dual 2 then 1200wrms @ 2ohms those type Rs will handle 600 each comfortably though u can use a 2 chan amp - a monoblock is prefered for subs .... |
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Silver Member Username: ShadeMoxee, Wa U.S. Post Number: 137 Registered: Nov-06 | just get a hifonics bxi2006d, u will be happy u did. |
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Silver Member Username: HootzSaskatoon, Saskatchewan Canada Post Number: 268 Registered: Oct-05 | "it is a two channel amp...look at the pics. it has two channels and it will put out about 1100 watts rms at both four ohm and at two ohm http://www.crutchfield.com/S-iNCiQPanKDV/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=120&tab=morephot os&pi=1&i=500PDX1100&display=L#Tab follow that link..it shows two channels on the amp" That's not a 2 channel amp, nor is it a 2000 watt amp. It's 1000W. And it's not a 1 ohm stable amp. It'd still work for him because it'll still do 1000 watts at 4 ohms, but if you wired that thing at 1 ohm you're just gonna burn it up. And having 2 speaker outputs doesn't make it a 2 channel amp. It says right on it that it's a mono amp, the two outputs would just be parallel connections. And even if it was a 2 channel, you'd bridge it anyways with subs. Unless you were a dufus and ran your subs in stereo  |
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Silver Member Username: Tc_skierPost Number: 140 Registered: Oct-06 | how bout an elemental designs nine.1? |
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Bronze Member Username: NascarfanTallahassee, Florida Post Number: 15 Registered: Mar-07 | Man im getting some good ideas here, thanks to you guys, its been a long time since I was into car stereos actually its been since 1985 since I had my last stereo competition, I placed 1st in the loudness category hitting 148.1db in a 1982 camaro, but that was along time ago! things have changed so much in design and competition, Im married now for 16 years and 3 kids later, and I have found new love again for my stereo (I know that sounds silly for a 42 year old), but, this is just another way to keep holding on to my youth..lol. Thanks again everyone for the superb advice !!! |
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Silver Member Username: DjbeanpoleNaptown, Indiana USA Post Number: 349 Registered: Nov-05 | I have those subs hooked up to a Kicker KX1200.1 1ohm stable bumpin. |
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