Good 2000w rms amp
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Bronze Member Username: BumpndatrunkMilwaukee, WI USA Post Number: 34 Registered: Mar-07 | what is a good amp that will not need a lot of power but push out about 2000w i whent to a stereo shop today and the guy told me that hifonics amps suck a lot of power now i always thought it is the other way around since the one i have in mind is a brutus super d classes so let me know |
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Gold Member Username: AdddisorderWest palm, Florida Post Number: 3831 Registered: Jan-06 | kicker zx1500.1 1900rms |
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Bronze Member Username: BumpndatrunkMilwaukee, WI USA Post Number: 35 Registered: Mar-07 | so the guy is telling the truth about hifonics also i play my subs some times for a loung time ever heard any heating proublems with kicker amps |
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Gold Member Username: AdddisorderWest palm, Florida Post Number: 3834 Registered: Jan-06 | no kicker amps are solid, i dont use hifonics so i dont know to much about them but they put out only 80% of rated power, or so i hear. |
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New member Username: WipemedownPost Number: 10 Registered: Mar-07 | any suggestions for 1ohm stable 2000w |
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Gold Member Username: JuliobSanto DomingoDominican Re... Post Number: 4278 Registered: Dec-05 | yes jonny. Sundown 1500D IA 20.1 orion 2500d if you don't have too much money then: Soundstream pca 2000d hifonics bxi 2006d |
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Silver Member Username: 04redmach1Columbus, GA USA Post Number: 375 Registered: Mar-06 | exactly what I was going to say. A Sundown SAZ-1500D. If you want a good price on one, hit me up. Kevin lowhz01@yahoo.com |
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Gold Member Username: Extrmndor3IF U HEAR ME... crazydbs.com Post Number: 4200 Registered: Feb-06 | the sundown will never push 2k rms at 1 ohm... it will do 1510 rms at 1 ohm and if u have a hell of a charging system expect 1635rms at 1 ohm... still the bxi2006d will push more power |
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Gold Member Username: Extrmndor3IF U HEAR ME... crazydbs.com Post Number: 4201 Registered: Feb-06 | i have bxi2006d brand new if u want one only powered once to make a vid buts its new.... pm me and ill give you a good price |
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Gold Member Username: Matt12490California USA Post Number: 1943 Registered: May-05 | Rob is so self centered its crazy. 1) That Sundown is so underrated expect near 2000 from it with a good charging system. 2) It can drop to .5ohm DAILY. (And can probably push more than 2000 while doing it.) 3) Build quality is GREAT. WHAT DOES HIFONICS GOT ON THAT? 1) OVERrated at about 1500rms. 2) Don't ever expect .5ohm daily on it. 3) Build quality is... aright. |
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Gold Member Username: Extrmndor3IF U HEAR ME... crazydbs.com Post Number: 4203 Registered: Feb-06 | results from the sundowns... Test Vehicle.. mine.. 05 aveo.. RMS clamp and dmm, as seen in the 12" test session.. This testing includes recent results, and not so recent.. woofers used.. 2 Mags (1.9 dcr per coil), 2 FI Q 12's (1.4 dcr per coil) either used 1 sub or both of the pair for loads.. pure 60hz sine was used to tested.. just under audible clipping 1 amp, single 1000ca everstart maxx, factory alt 4 ohm nominal = 518 watts @ 88% efficiency (voltage fell from 14.3v, to 14.0v) 2 ohm nominal = 948 watts @ 85% efficiency (voltage fell from 14.3v, to 13.6v) 1 ohm nominal = 1510 watts @ 78% efficiency (voltage fell from 14.3v, to 12.4 volts .5 ohm nominal = 1615 watts @ 72% efficiency (voltage fell from 14.3v, to 11.8v) .35 ohm nominal = 1748 watts @ 67% efficiency (voltage fell from 14.3v, to 11.4v) amplifier was protection happy @ .35 with tones, and some music. IMO.. one 1500d should be limited to 1 ohm nominal use in factory electrical systems.. for the sake of the car.. not the amp now... to have fun with some juice.. 1 amp, single 1000ca everstart maxx, 1 Eagle Picher 12a5000, factory alt 4 ohm nominal = 520 watts @ 88% efficiency (voltage fell from 14.3v, to 14.1v) 2 ohm nominal = 960 watts @ 84% efficiency (voltage fell from 14.3v, to 13.7v) 1 ohm nominal = 1635 watts @ 75% efficiency (voltage fell from 14.3v, to 12.8 volts .5 ohm nominal = 1890 watts @ 71% efficiency (voltage fell from 14.3v, to 12.8v) .35 ohm nominal = 2245 watts @ 65% efficiency (voltage fell from 14.3v, to 12.8v) amplifier did fine @ .35 with tones and music with the added battery 2 amps strapped, with both batteries (for the sake of not typing it over and over... voltage drops from 14.3v, to 12.8 the entire test... lol 4 ohm strapped = 1900 watts @ 82% efficiency 2 ohm strapped = 3150 watts @ 72% efficiency 1 ohm strapped = 3740 watts @ 68% efficiency .5 ohm strapped = 4425 watts @ 65% efficiency .35 ohm strapped = 5415 watts @ 62% efficiency amps would only tolerate a VERY short burp @ .35.. thats from sundown ratings the dude who tested its one of hte ones who made the amps... |
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Gold Member Username: Extrmndor3IF U HEAR ME... crazydbs.com Post Number: 4204 Registered: Feb-06 | and hte hifonics its not 500 overated.... it can do around 85-95% depending on your charging... |
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Gold Member Username: Extrmndor3IF U HEAR ME... crazydbs.com Post Number: 4205 Registered: Feb-06 | by the way a Eagle Picher 12a5000 its alot better than a kinetik hc2400  .... and yes u will never see 2000 rms not even with a good charging at .5ohms... and yes u will see 2000 or over at .35 ohms buts its risking the amp.... |
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Gold Member Username: Extrmndor3IF U HEAR ME... crazydbs.com Post Number: 4206 Registered: Feb-06 | "Rob is so self centered its crazy" correction. rearrangeyamind is so self centered its crazy. |
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Gold Member Username: AdddisorderWest palm, Florida Post Number: 3838 Registered: Jan-06 | lil rob you need to do some more research before claiming that, yes lloyed did those tests, wow! but that was at 12.5v you should see what they do at 14.4 and 16v |
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Silver Member Username: 04redmach1Columbus, GA USA Post Number: 380 Registered: Mar-06 | If you notice Rob, that is at 12 volts. We have seen a smooth 1800 rms at 1 ohm at 14 volts FYI. Hifonics build is crap compared to Sundown. You will NEVER see 95% of rated out of Hifonics on a 12.8 volt system. I am not being an @ss, just stating the truth. Sundown> Bentley Hifonics> Kia Kevin |
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Bronze Member Username: BumpndatrunkMilwaukee, WI USA Post Number: 36 Registered: Mar-07 | kevin or any body here that cane give me the web add to showdown so i can what they look like |
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Silver Member Username: Kaos15thPost Number: 427 Registered: Mar-05 | lil rob you need to do some more research before claiming that, yes lloyed did those tests, wow! but that was at 12.5v you should see what they do at 14.4 and 16v" 16v LOL who the h3ll will be doing 16v daily. But i agree that hifonics is cr@p. I would go with the kicker.... |
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Gold Member Username: AdddisorderWest palm, Florida Post Number: 3841 Registered: Jan-06 | i dont care whos going to be running 16v set ups but the point is they will putout alot of power at 16v i think it was 2200@1ohm but im not postive |
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Silver Member Username: Wolf_houndPost Number: 137 Registered: Sep-05 | i doubt youre gonna be doing 16v lol. Look for a amp that does 2000watts at 14v |
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Silver Member Username: 04redmach1Columbus, GA USA Post Number: 385 Registered: Mar-06 | Let me know if I can help you. http://www.sundownaudio.com/ http://www.low-hz.com/commerce/catalog/index.php?cPath=21_22&osCsid=b0e56537a98f c491aa7c835372678296 Kevin lowhz01@yahoo.com |
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Silver Member Username: SheriffPost Number: 141 Registered: Jan-07 | The guy probably said that about the HIFONICS amps because they don't sell them. |
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Gold Member Username: Extrmndor3IF U HEAR ME... crazydbs.com Post Number: 4212 Registered: Feb-06 | 1 ohm nominal = 1510 watts @ 78% efficiency (voltage fell from 14.3v, to 12.4 volts they did the test at 14.3v.... and ur the one that needs more research |
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Silver Member Username: Adam_s15 TC9 Hybrid, RE MT Softparts Post Number: 858 Registered: Aug-04 | Hifonics are good budget amps and nothing more. The reason people use them is because they do put out ALMOST their stated power. The sundown on the other hand has great build quality and as you can see can be run daily below 1 ohm. Id really like to see the hifonics do that for any period of time. |
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Gold Member Username: Extrmndor3IF U HEAR ME... crazydbs.com Post Number: 4213 Registered: Feb-06 | dude where u can get an amp at that price that can do like u all saying its underated lets say 1800 rms at 1 ohm with the sound quility they provide????? and with my atomic it can do .7ohms all day... and if u like to comp u can see on other forums that they can do burps at .5ohms but not daily at that price u cant go wrong... |
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Gold Member Username: Extrmndor3IF U HEAR ME... crazydbs.com Post Number: 4214 Registered: Feb-06 | umm ok im a noob i dont no nuttin u all know everyhting i feel bad  . but lets look at under the hood i think im better paying 350 for a 1800 rms at 1 ohm at 14.3 volts than a 599 that can do 1635 at 1 ohm at 14.3 volts and all that im juzz gettin its to go down more ohms but even at low ohms i will not get 2000 rms form the sundown till i drop it like .35 ohms but will take tons of current and its risking your amp. lets take a look inside the hood.. hifonics bxi2006d  and finnaly the sundown.  i think im better with a hifonics its my opinion. but its an opinion its not a fact u might want to pick up a sundown it syoru choice not mine... so i htink im out of this thread  aight bye bye |
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Gold Member Username: Extrmndor3IF U HEAR ME... crazydbs.com Post Number: 4215 Registered: Feb-06 | they look alil diferent only the sundown looks alil beefier for the extra caps to make it go down some more ohms.... but the hifonics wins on other specs of the amp... can u juzz see the size of those mosfetS of the hifonics??? damn those are mean mosfets... but yeah im better with hifonics because of the price... |
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Gold Member Username: 420alldaylongPost Number: 1060 Registered: Sep-06 | Low Hz.com (Sundown SAZ 1500D $450) You can't go wrong with Sundown SAZ 1500D |
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Gold Member Username: Extrmndor3IF U HEAR ME... crazydbs.com Post Number: 4217 Registered: Feb-06 | 100 juzz for less power and juzz to go lower ohms and the abilty to strap ??? umm if ur into comps and u want to get into those clases where u can only need to have certain amount of power the dunwown will be a nice idea to run it at super low ohms... |
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