New member Username: ShawndulinSuffolk, VA USA Post Number: 1 Registered: Mar-07 | I am almost completly oblivious to car stereos, I'm more of a tinkering with engine and other things guy, so im wondering what amp would be sufficient for this box setup: http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/MTX-Dual-10-1350W-Subwoofer-Enclosure-TCE4510X2D/ sem/rpsm/oid/148261/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do#tabs Thanks in advance -Shawn Dulin |
Gold Member Username: CtmikeCt. Post Number: 3563 Registered: Feb-06 | you didn't buy that already did you? but if you did what's your budget for an amp? |
Silver Member Username: QbenjaminFlorida Post Number: 300 Registered: Nov-06 | Those subs are DUAL 2's (225 X 2) 450w rms Power Find an amp that does about 400-450w rms @ 2OHMS You can use a 2 channel or a mono. You also need to post a budget for an amp. |
New member Username: ShawndulinSuffolk, VA USA Post Number: 2 Registered: Mar-07 | I would say my budget would probably be around $200 if thats an acceptable range, and no I havent bought the box yet...if you have better suggestions I'll be glad to look at others. |
Silver Member Username: Skibum12189Cleveland Post Number: 321 Registered: Mar-06 | so youd have about 500 total for the setup?? |
New member Username: ShawndulinSuffolk, VA USA Post Number: 3 Registered: Mar-07 | Yea about that, I can probably go max $1k though, just need to put in some extra work over the summer when I plan on putting it all together. So maybe give better system for $500~ and one around $1k~ =] |
Silver Member Username: OlegSanta Monica, CA USA Post Number: 568 Registered: Nov-04 | If you're just looking to add some bass, you can definitely do something for $500. If we're upgrading all speakers and such, it'll run you more. |
New member Username: ShawndulinSuffolk, VA USA Post Number: 4 Registered: Mar-07 | The speaker upgrades can wait til further on down the road un less they start blowing out in the near future. |
Silver Member Username: OlegSanta Monica, CA USA Post Number: 580 Registered: Nov-04 | You can get some kicker CVRs, CVXs, adire audio shivas, TC sounds TC1000s, or the entry level digital designs subs. Amps...you can get a kicker, JBL, hifonics; they're usually more budget friendly. |
New member Username: ShawndulinSuffolk, VA USA Post Number: 5 Registered: Mar-07 | so are MTX not a good thing for subs? |
Gold Member Username: CtmikeCt. Post Number: 3573 Registered: Feb-06 | they suck. not the absolute worst but you can do ALOT better for the money they cost. |
Silver Member Username: OlegSanta Monica, CA USA Post Number: 583 Registered: Nov-04 | no, not the lower lines at least, from what i've heard. A good rule of thumb is never to shop at circuit city or best buy for car audio. Even if they may have some decent products, they'll be overpriced. If something is cheap, it probably is just that in quality. Look on eBay, you're looking at saving in excess of 50% on any given item. |
New member Username: ShawndulinSuffolk, VA USA Post Number: 6 Registered: Mar-07 | so what kind of amp would go with 2 12 compVRs? Thanks for the help and putting up with my lack of knowledge in car stereos lol |
New member Username: Spyder22Post Number: 4 Registered: Mar-07 | I would check out Elemental Designs. My buddy got one a little while ago with his rockford subs. System sounds real nice. Now I got one (havent hooked it up yet, no radio . I got the NINe.2X and it feels like a heavy amp with some nice craftsmenship. I also have read nothing but good reviews. You get more for your money from Elemental Designs. |
Gold Member Username: CtmikeCt. Post Number: 3574 Registered: Feb-06 | "I also have read nothing but good reviews" i take it you have never been to a car audio forum before huh? just about every car audio forum besides their own flame ed up and down. now i'm not saying their the worst, i might actually buy a few nine.1s here soon, but their have been many problems with their subs, sort of hit and miss if your going to get a working sub or not. and thier customer support has been flamed many, many times and i have read many posts on other forums of customers sending speakers and subs in for repair/swap and taking upwards of several months and unanswered emails/calls to them before receiving them back. |
Gold Member Username: CtmikeCt. Post Number: 3575 Registered: Feb-06 | i second the ed nine.1 for an amp, great amp at a good price. but you do stand a chance of possibly getting screwed if you ever need to repair it. but at about $330 for a nine.1 that will put out 1400wrms+ with a good 14.4v is really good. i would say 2 dual 2 cvrs' with a nine.1 at 2ohm would work great. |
New member Username: ShawndulinSuffolk, VA USA Post Number: 7 Registered: Mar-07 | Im looking at Kickers right now :/ 06ZX750.1 ZX Series Class D Monoblock Amplifier R/B on eBay for 177.77, i think its at 4 ohms and 2 ohms per sub....i have no idea what that means but it sounds like it would work. |
Gold Member Username: CtmikeCt. Post Number: 3576 Registered: Feb-06 | a kicker 750.1 will work so long as you get a pair of dual 2ohm vc subs. |
New member Username: ShawndulinSuffolk, VA USA Post Number: 8 Registered: Mar-07 | Impedance per Voice Coil (Ohms) ? 2 that is what im looking for per sub, right? |
Gold Member Username: CtmikeCt. Post Number: 3579 Registered: Feb-06 | yes. cvr's come either dual 4 or dual 2ohm vc. just make sure you pick up a pair that are dual 2. |
Silver Member Username: OlegSanta Monica, CA USA Post Number: 586 Registered: Nov-04 | Yes, you will wire the coils in series: 2ohm + 2ohm = 4ohm when in series. Then you will wire the subs in parallel: 4ohm + 4ohm = 2ohm when in parallel. |
New member Username: ShawndulinSuffolk, VA USA Post Number: 9 Registered: Mar-07 | i think im gonna ride upto an audio dealer this weekend and see what they can do with my ride. |
Silver Member Username: OlegSanta Monica, CA USA Post Number: 587 Registered: Nov-04 | You can also get kicker zx750.1, it'll be a perfect fit for those subs as well. It's as low as $225 shipped on eBay...good price. http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-07-MODEL-KICKER-ZX750-1-MONO-AMP-750W-REP-KX600-1_W0QQit emZ180095150332QQcategoryZ79829QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
Silver Member Username: OlegSanta Monica, CA USA Post Number: 588 Registered: Nov-04 | Ah audio dealer...be ready to pay more. |
New member Username: ShawndulinSuffolk, VA USA Post Number: 10 Registered: Mar-07 | well you listed the two places that i was lookingat as places not to buy at, and i have no idea what im doing when it comes to stereos, so that leaves an audio dealer >_> |
Silver Member Username: OlegSanta Monica, CA USA Post Number: 595 Registered: Nov-04 | Get the stuff off eBay and take it to the dealer to install. |
Gold Member Username: Dustin3Tigard, OR U.S. Post Number: 4698 Registered: Oct-05 | its not hard to install. oleg is making it sound alot harder. just go to www.the12volt.com --subwoofer wiring configurations and then select how many subs you got, and the impedence here: get this amp: http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-07-MODEL-KICKER-ZX750-1-MONO-AMP-750W-REP-KX600-1_W0QQit emZ180095150332QQcategoryZ79829QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem get the CVR's in dual 2 ohm VC's, because the amp does 750 + @ 2 ohms... wire them EXACTLY like this: thats all there is too it. the basic thing to remember is this: 2 dual voice coil 4 ohm subs wire to a 1 or 4 ohm load 2 dual 2 ohm subs wire to a 2 or 8 ohm load 1 dual 2 ohm subs wires to a 1 or 4 ohm load 1 dual 4 ohm sub wires to a 2 or 8 ohm load} buy the subs and amp off the internet |
Silver Member Username: OlegSanta Monica, CA USA Post Number: 597 Registered: Nov-04 | Thanks, bass. Looking at the bigger picture, he's going to get the power wire run by a shop, so may as well get the subs put in by them. |
Gold Member Username: 420alldaylongPost Number: 1025 Registered: Sep-06 | Shawn Dulin Check these out http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_3406.html http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=16918 |
Silver Member Username: OlegSanta Monica, CA USA Post Number: 598 Registered: Nov-04 | I recommend that, too...look more on eBay and you can save more. |
Gold Member Username: Dustin3Tigard, OR U.S. Post Number: 4701 Registered: Oct-05 | i said that because i recommend he installing everything himself and not taking it to a dumb car audio shop that you know more than them. do it yourself, so you can learn |
Bronze Member Username: Spyder22Post Number: 12 Registered: Mar-07 | @ ctmike Really.......? https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/car-audio/206136.html |
Gold Member Username: CtmikeCt. Post Number: 3593 Registered: Feb-06 | by this you talking about what i said about ed as a company? if so then i still stand by what i said. i like their amps, never said i didn't. but ask about their subs, even here. people will say it's hit or miss. go to other forums and ask about ed. their are people that refuse to even consider buying ed because of what they have done in the past. so why not visit www.caraudio.com or www.caraudioforum.com and ask their opinion of ed then come back and post links of what they say. |
Bronze Member Username: Spyder22Post Number: 15 Registered: Mar-07 | nah im ok. i dont know much about their subs, but i like their amps and their build quality, the 5 year warentee is nice too. |