Fi vs re
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Silver Member Username: Snarl2004Audioque 12 SD2.5s, Earthquake P... Post Number: 525 Registered: Dec-06 | if scott started re but now owns fi and designed some of re's subs and all of fi's subs which company is better? |
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Gold Member Username: Denali_on_22sHit you in the chest m... Post Number: 1472 Registered: Feb-06 | RE is more technologically advanced, but Fi still makes very nice subs. |
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Silver Member Username: Snarl2004Audioque 12 SD2.5s, Earthquake P... Post Number: 526 Registered: Dec-06 | but didnt scott design them both so shouldnt they be like the same? |
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Gold Member Username: WingmanaliveA pic is worth 1000 words Post Number: 3908 Registered: Jun-06 | Personally, I would love to have a 1 hour conversation with Scott over why I should buy his FI subs over his "older" RE subs. Tell me what you've done/changed. Just to stir the pot. |
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Gold Member Username: AdddisorderWest palm, Florida Post Number: 3387 Registered: Jan-06 | well lets take a quick look at it. scott knows what he can improve on and knows the insides to the competition. second, RE is in it to make big dolla, scotts just trying to make a living and provide great subs at an affordable price for everyone |
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Silver Member Username: Snarl2004Audioque 12 SD2.5s, Earthquake P... Post Number: 530 Registered: Dec-06 | lol ya. i dont get y he came up with re then came up with fi...i just dont understand |
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Gold Member Username: WingmanaliveA pic is worth 1000 words Post Number: 3909 Registered: Jun-06 | Just look at the price difference. |
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Gold Member Username: 54danny54KY More Wang Th... Post Number: 3549 Registered: Nov-04 | well think about it.... US amps bought RE out. Scott was RE's owner, therefore us amps paid scott for the company. so... scott must have got sum money so he just opened up a new shop with the tools he had and he still had the money from us amps in the first place...its a money thang and good news for ppl on budgets as well. |
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Silver Member Username: Snarl2004Audioque 12 SD2.5s, Earthquake P... Post Number: 532 Registered: Dec-06 | true dat |
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Gold Member Username: StnorrisRE SX 15, IA US Post Number: 2038 Registered: Apr-06 | re ftw... |
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Silver Member Username: Bump05CashMoney, 15 Hd3 USA Post Number: 953 Registered: Aug-06 | I like re personally little overpriced but great drivers, known from experience...also fi is way to played out but also great drivers, start going different brands people just hear fi this fi that, check these brands: mmats, massive, tc sounds, orion, american bass, atomic... |
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Platinum Member Username: BestmankindWww.15inchwangers.comFI Audio BTL Post Number: 10531 Registered: Oct-05 | if i was to get an re sub it would have to be the new mx or the xxx. se or sx are waste of money imo. i had them both and not too much to brag about. |
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Platinum Member Username: BestmankindWww.15inchwangers.comFI Audio BTL Post Number: 10532 Registered: Oct-05 | forum is acting up again. bump damn it. |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinResonant Engineering..., Fort Worth... Email Post Number: 3194 Registered: Nov-05 | Old RE > Fi New RE < Fi |
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Platinum Member Username: BestmankindWww.15inchwangers.comFI Audio BTL Post Number: 10533 Registered: Oct-05 | old re is fi. |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinResonant Engineering..., Fort Worth... Email Post Number: 3196 Registered: Nov-05 | wow.. no bump.. thanks Chad for the forum malfuction! |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinResonant Engineering..., Fort Worth... Email Post Number: 3197 Registered: Nov-05 | essentially.. not really.. similar but not the same |
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Platinum Member Username: BestmankindWww.15inchwangers.comFI Audio BTL Post Number: 10534 Registered: Oct-05 | lol. whatever floats your boat kev. lol. FI FOR LIFE BIOTCHES!!!!!!!!!! rofl. |
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Gold Member Username: Denali_on_22sHit you in the chest m... Post Number: 1477 Registered: Feb-06 | Umm... to answer the actually question. Scot created the RE as we knew it BEFORE all of the technological advancements Resonant Engineering has done now. RE makes better drivers, but the price of Fi trumps that with most people because they want a cheap way out. Fi subs are great, don't get me wrong, but RE makes a more advanced sub. |
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Silver Member Username: Snarl2004Audioque 12 SD2.5s, Earthquake P... Post Number: 536 Registered: Dec-06 | alright so is re or dd better? or is it just a metter of opinion? |
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Platinum Member Username: BestmankindWww.15inchwangers.comFI Audio BTL Post Number: 10536 Registered: Oct-05 | dd is the best period. reece in what way does re makes better drivers? |
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Silver Member Username: Pike11012w6v2s, Indianapolis... Post Number: 385 Registered: Oct-05 | I asked scott if he designed the new 06 xxx's and he said he did. So, new or old re is most likely scott's designs. |
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Gold Member Username: StnorrisRE SX 15, IA US Post Number: 2045 Registered: Apr-06 | *se or sx are waste of money imo. i had them both and not too much to brag about.* i have to call you out on this one chad. i havent seen ur newest numbers but arent u hitting like 147db? i just have to say that an sx 15 can do that with like 1300rms, come on, u cant call that a waste of money....and u said that ur sx 18 was the SH*TTT. chad, were still cool though right?? lol  |
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Platinum Member Username: BestmankindWww.15inchwangers.comFI Audio BTL Post Number: 10537 Registered: Oct-05 | i am saying its a waste of money casue you can get a ssd or a bl for less. lol. i guess i really don't know what i am doing cause i am only hitting 147. i guess you can get that with a re sx 15 with only 1300wrms so i guess you got me there. rofl. |
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Platinum Member Username: BestmankindWww.15inchwangers.comFI Audio BTL Post Number: 10538 Registered: Oct-05 | btw we are cool. i didn't think you would get that offended by my comment. remember i said "imo". that means its my opinion and i am entitled to one. |
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Platinum Member Username: BestmankindWww.15inchwangers.comFI Audio BTL Post Number: 10539 Registered: Oct-05 | bump. |
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Platinum Member Username: BestmankindWww.15inchwangers.comFI Audio BTL Post Number: 10540 Registered: Oct-05 | fucked up forum. never bumps. |
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Silver Member Username: 420alldaylongPost Number: 902 Registered: Sep-06 | Chad Don't that this the wrong way but you have 2 15" BTL loaded with 2 orion 2500D and your not hitting 150s something is wrong some where. |
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Platinum Member Username: BestmankindWww.15inchwangers.comFI Audio BTL Post Number: 10542 Registered: Oct-05 | is it a given if you have 2 btl's loaded and you are suppose to hit 150? do you have any idea how loud 150 is? go to the this site http://www.termpro.com/asp/eventresults1.asp?Method=0 and check out what alot of people are hitting. i don't know how they meter your cars where you are at but 150 isn't easy my friend. |
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Silver Member Username: 420alldaylongPost Number: 904 Registered: Sep-06 | A friend of mine was hitting 151 with a Kicker XS100 and 2 15" eclipse aluminum this was a while back. |
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Gold Member Username: BernymacCambodian Post Number: 2092 Registered: Sep-04 | yeah. 150dB isn't as easy as you think it is. Sometimes you do so much to improve such as, building a new box, adding more batts, maybe change some equipment and such. Sound deadener. Its a lot of sh!t to get that 150. Like many people said before. its hard to get loud in Chads Coupe. Just takes time to find whats goes right. Lots and lots of testing and changes. |
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Platinum Member Username: Chaunb3400Huntsville, Alabama U.S. Post Number: 11559 Registered: Jul-05 | well my ears tell me BL and Q>XXX...Both are louder and sound just as good SSD>SE...again louder and sounds just as good... |
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Silver Member Username: Goodie_goopMidland, Texas U.S. Post Number: 337 Registered: Oct-06 | have u heard the new BL chauncey?? |
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Platinum Member Username: Chaunb3400Huntsville, Alabama U.S. Post Number: 11561 Registered: Jul-05 | lol..i got 2... |
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Silver Member Username: QcsfinestCharlotte, North Carolina Post Number: 384 Registered: Jun-05 | The Q is really louder than the xxx? i never woulda thought that. |
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Platinum Member Username: Chaunb3400Huntsville, Alabama U.S. Post Number: 11581 Registered: Jul-05 | yep louder then the 05 XXX....much more efficient |
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Gold Member Username: JohnfiacIL Afghanistan,... Post Number: 1546 Registered: Mar-06 | hmmmm these forums confuse the sh!t outta me... first i hear RE XXX > DD9500's then i here the BL and Q are better then the XXX.... and i hear the dd9500's are better then the BTL's which MUST be better then FI's lower end like the BL and Q...so what it is???????? which model xxx are you comparing chauncey? The 07 loooks bad@sss and i heard alot about it... never heard it.... and for Joey.... remember chad doesnt have a sh!tload of space or anything like a SUV its a coupe... and he needs more batterys if i remember right. |
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Silver Member Username: 420alldaylongPost Number: 907 Registered: Sep-06 | Killa Your RIGHT for some reason I was thinking Chad had a SUV my bad. Well hell 147 is good for the coupe. |
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Platinum Member Username: Chaunb3400Huntsville, Alabama U.S. Post Number: 11583 Registered: Jul-05 | ok...the DD9500 is better then the REXXX no matter what year...it just is a overall better driver... The BL and Q are better the the 05ReXXX.in the since that it gets louder with the same amount of power, and the sq is super similar... The BTL's are FI's "SPL" driver...the DD 9500series are "SQL" drivers...so its like comparing apples to oranges... Both are great subs.. It all comes down to what you are looking for...if u where looking for a crazy daily setup..I would get a DD9515...if u want something that will bang hard without all kinds of charging system upgrades..then a BL or a Q on a 1000rms amp would be nice and easy on the wallet..... If you plan on competing then I would grab a BTL..fully loaded of course..... |
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Gold Member Username: JohnfiacIL Afghanistan,... Post Number: 1551 Registered: Mar-06 | Chad got some tips at the last comp he'll get 150 in the coupe somtime ill get that 150+ in my SUV if not im gunna cry  |
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Platinum Member Username: BestmankindWww.15inchwangers.comFI Audio BTL Post Number: 10548 Registered: Oct-05 | yep. and killa with the setup you are gonna have, you will hit it. chauncey i couldn't have said it better myself. |
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Platinum Member Username: BestmankindWww.15inchwangers.comFI Audio BTL Post Number: 10549 Registered: Oct-05 | btw steven, i better see you hitting 147 with your sx 15 with 1300wrms. |
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Gold Member Username: StnorrisRE SX 15, IA US Post Number: 2050 Registered: Apr-06 | ya i will be, im pretty sure i am now, 146.x Tl. Chauncey i have to disregard what u said lol. The q is not louder than an XXX. THe sx even beats the q. IMO an sx would beat a q by 4 - 5db both on good installs, and im quite sure that the xxx is louder than the sx after like 1500rms. |
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Platinum Member Username: Chaunb3400Huntsville, Alabama U.S. Post Number: 11584 Registered: Jul-05 | "The q is not louder than an XXX." lol...so you used both of them in different kinds of installs??? If so what all kinds of test did u run?? Results?? given the same amount of power the Q will be louder then the 05XXX Also you do realize that the SX is built to be louder then a XXX.... "the xxx is louder than the sx after like 1500rms" Again u tested both subs???Maybe around 2000rms..even then it would still be really close...the SX is built for one thing...SPL...people say they have pretty good sq...but imo there sq..is average at best...The XXX was built for a great daily sql driver..not a spl monster... Since you can do test and what not.I mean u have both subs and everything.....give your q 500rms and ur SX 500rms tell me ur results?? give them both 1000rms tell me ur results??..Also with ur results please include all the box details,peak freq,etc..I really wanna no.... also 4-5dbs...lolololoololololololololololololol...Please lay of the drugs... |
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Gold Member Username: Denali_on_22sHit you in the chest m... Post Number: 1480 Registered: Feb-06 | Chad, by better I meant they are more advanced, like I stated at the end of the post. Technology in the MX and the XXX is unparalleled. That being said, I will probably end up with some Fi subs in my ride. |
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Platinum Member Username: BestmankindWww.15inchwangers.comFI Audio BTL Post Number: 10555 Registered: Oct-05 | yea i hear you man. that is why i said above if i decide to get a re sub it would only be mx or the xxx. steven if i had to guess your number i would say you would be around 140-141db. unless you do a perfect install. look at driving he is doing 146.1 with a dd 9515 with 2500wrms. like i was telling joey above, if you check out what alot of people are doing at db drags, 148-150 is average. those are guys with multiple subs. unless you can give me solid proof, there is no way you will hit 147 with your sx. that is if you meter by db drag standards. |
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Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rChicago, Illinois U.S.A Post Number: 1092 Registered: Jul-06 | Driving's amp's birth sheet says 2930 RMS I believe |
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Gold Member Username: DrivingrecklessDD 9515f, USA Post Number: 2989 Registered: Apr-06 | robs right ONCE AGAIN , your full of sh!t steven, i dout your hitting anything close to 146.x lets see a picture of the termlab oh an ill be 146.5 this weekend also what is your box tuned to and what hz are you hittin it at? |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinResonant Engineering..., Fort Worth... Email Post Number: 3208 Registered: Nov-05 | ill post some pics of the TL reading I get this Sunday... both Legal and Outlaw and btw.. the reason you see Fi subs getting louder is simply because the fs on all the subs are higher than that of REs its easy to get loud at a higher hz... I'd still like to see a match up of each sub vs the other X - RE SSD - SE BL - SX Q - XXX BTL - MT would be a nice matchup.. make for some good graphs and reading |
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Bronze Member Username: GfblPost Number: 38 Registered: Oct-06 | bump |
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Silver Member Username: TonPost Number: 128 Registered: Jul-05 | Isn't it a bit at Chad side to get louder in his car compare to an SUV? isn't small car better for Spl compare to an SUV? or do i miss something? |
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Platinum Member Username: BestmankindWww.15inchwangers.comFI Audio BTL Post Number: 10601 Registered: Oct-05 | its cause its a coupe. if i had a hatchback, i would be hitting high numbers for sure. although i have a small cabin, i am getting bass waves traveling back. by the time the bass wave that travels back comes back to the front, it has lost alot of its boom. lol. that is why my new box is designed where the port is as far back as possible. i should have better numbers for you guys soon. |
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Gold Member Username: StnorrisRE SX 15, IA US Post Number: 2056 Registered: Apr-06 | chauncey....that was the dumbest sh*t ive ever heard. if you needed test results to prove everything you say on this site, then really only a few posts on this site would even be valid. haha. i didnt say i did any testing, just from experience. And chad, ive hit 146.3 on a TL, and when metered on the splmeter from splmeter.com, i did 147.2, and that meter is said to be +/- 2 db of the TL. Chauncey - when metering the 12 q in a good install it hit around 6db lower than mine, and this was in a hatchback. that sub is too sq based. i based what i said on hearing this q in 2 different boxes. you can also talk to jblanford, he knows exactly what im talkin about that the sx kills the q in spl....same power....thats just what ive seen so far. the sx is not built to be louder than the xxx... |
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Platinum Member Username: BestmankindWww.15inchwangers.comFI Audio BTL Post Number: 10619 Registered: Oct-05 | unless you can show me some solid proof from a tl mic from a sponsored event, i can't take it seriously. but you say you did so i'll take your word for it. end of discussion about that. |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinResonant Engineering..., Fort Worth... Email Post Number: 3215 Registered: Nov-05 | i do a 146.3 :P ... but subtract like 0.8dB for legal haha |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinResonant Engineering..., Fort Worth... Email Post Number: 3216 Registered: Nov-05 |  |
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Bronze Member Username: Shawn_flemingGainesville, Florida Post Number: 71 Registered: Sep-06 | Everything the RE currently has, and has had in the past, was engineered/designed by Scott. |
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Silver Member Username: Lil_jonPost Number: 422 Registered: Jul-05 | Sigh...your only asking to pay for an upgrade within 1 year if you dont get the 06 xxx. Q Can not be compared in anyway. Simple as that |
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Gold Member Username: DrivingrecklessDD 9515f, USA Post Number: 3022 Registered: Apr-06 | steven norris < dog sh!t |
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Bronze Member Username: DenimWww.TeamSSAudio.com, MD Post Number: 86 Registered: Nov-06 | Wow there is some interesting information in this thread. |
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