New with car audio need help
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Bronze Member Username: DjhasanicesoundsystemVista, Ca Usa Post Number: 19 Registered: Feb-07 | i need to anything and everything to know about car audio like what everything means and what is the good stuff and what isnt cause i think i got ripped off on my sound system. any thing that will help me figure all this sh1t out would be appriciated | ||
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Gold Member Username: Nyyfan13Fi SSD USA Post Number: 3642 Registered: Jul-06 | whatd you buy and how much did you pay... and give us some specific questions and im sure we'll help |
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Silver Member Username: Nd4spd18Post Number: 339 Registered: Jul-06 | Start reading these sites: http://www.bcae1.com/ http://www.wickedcases.com/tutorials/index.html Everything you ever wanted to know about car audio. |
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Gold Member Username: RvlacosDD 3512 , VR1000D 15= overcomp... Post Number: 1710 Registered: Sep-06 | stick to one post guy no need to make a new thread every minute. there is no best its what u like, normally the loudest isnt the prettiest if u want pretty go to a pageant. read more and post less so you can learn. we all mention what the good stuff is and aint so read! check out these sites: BCAE the12volt.com |
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Bronze Member Username: DjhasanicesoundsystemVista, Ca Usa Post Number: 22 Registered: Feb-07 | its 2 12" kicker comp vr subs and an alpine amp that i really dont know what kind(ill put pics) but it has 350watt rms and a dual bow sealed
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Silver Member Username: Rosrock2000Notre dame!USA Post Number: 294 Registered: Dec-06 | how much did u pay? was it new or used? | ||
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Bronze Member Username: DjhasanicesoundsystemVista, Ca Usa Post Number: 23 Registered: Feb-07 | i spent about 575 with instalation and cables everything | ||
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Silver Member Username: Rosrock2000Notre dame!USA Post Number: 295 Registered: Dec-06 | iouch.. i would say yes | ||
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Bronze Member Username: DjhasanicesoundsystemVista, Ca Usa Post Number: 24 Registered: Feb-07 | new | ||
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Silver Member Username: BasssquaredPost Number: 176 Registered: Nov-06 | well its not really getting ripped off but you could have gotten it cheaper at my local store 1 12" CVR goes for a bill 30 so two would be 260 and a box usually around another bill so thas 360 an install 140 so thats 500 and i dont know how much that alpine amp goes for but without the amp it would have cost you 500 at my shop but online you can get two CVRs for 160 shipped and a box for around 60 and install it yourself for free so that would have only been 220 compared to 500 | ||
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Silver Member Username: BasssquaredPost Number: 177 Registered: Nov-06 | i forgot cables but still thas just another 60 at the most | ||
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Bronze Member Username: DjhasanicesoundsystemVista, Ca Usa Post Number: 40 Registered: Feb-07 | ok then thanks the amp cost me 200 so i guess i did get a good deal. | ||
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Gold Member Username: Denali_on_22sHit you in the chest m... Post Number: 1447 Registered: Feb-06 | ^^ Don't kid yourself. You bought low end products with (I would assume) a sh!tty pre-fab box, and some 8 or 10 gauge wire. You could have gotten A LOT nicer subs, box and amp for the same price. | ||
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Gold Member Username: BernymacCambodian Post Number: 2081 Registered: Sep-04 | stores need to make money. plain and simple. you didn't get ripped off. You just didn't know anything. So in a way, you ripped yourself off. Research first, research again, and again and again and again, then buy. | ||
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Silver Member Username: HootzSaskatoon, Saskatchewan Canada Post Number: 237 Registered: Oct-05 | He did okay for buying brand new stuff with warranty, with no knowledge on how to build boxes and install the stuff himself. Peace of mind and supporting the local car audio industry is worth extra money for some people.....I spent $600 cdn for a amp from etronics with no serial number, when I could have gotten it for $700 locally with warranty. Never again....... | ||
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Bronze Member Username: DjhasanicesoundsystemVista, Ca Usa Post Number: 43 Registered: Feb-07 | thank you and back then i just wanted something to thump a little and look good doing it. so in a way i guess i didnt rip myself off its just that i made a bad choice. | ||
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Bronze Member Username: DjhasanicesoundsystemVista, Ca Usa Post Number: 45 Registered: Feb-07 | but now i have this place to rate and find better and better stuff for my sound system. | ||
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Silver Member Username: HootzSaskatoon, Saskatchewan Canada Post Number: 240 Registered: Oct-05 | You've got dual 4 ohm subs right? so that amp is putting out 400 rms to two subs. if you can get a second amp at a decent deal, you're gonna have each amp putting 600 watts to each sub.....hell if you can get another amp from the same place for $200, that's way easier than selling yours for peanuts and buying an 800 watt amp. and you'll have more power. | ||
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Bronze Member Username: DjhasanicesoundsystemVista, Ca Usa Post Number: 46 Registered: Feb-07 | so i could hook up each sub individualy with the same amp i have now and it would sound and hit harder?? | ||
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Silver Member Username: HootzSaskatoon, Saskatchewan Canada Post Number: 241 Registered: Oct-05 | they're dual 4 ohm subs right? so wired together, they'd be 4 ohm (2 voice coils in parallel makes 2 ohm, both subs together series makes 4 ohm) and that amp is 400 watts at 4 ohm. if you had 2 of those amps, you'd wire the voice coils on each sub in parallel for 2 ohms, and that amp is 600 watts at 2 ohms. so instead of 200 watts per sub, you'd be getting 600 per sub. that'd make a HUGE difference for $200 plus a wiring kit. You might even have to keep the gain down a bit. | ||
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Silver Member Username: HootzSaskatoon, Saskatchewan Canada Post Number: 242 Registered: Oct-05 | They might be dual 2 ohm though....if that shop you bought from knows what they were doing then I'm sure they would have sold you subs that are optimum for that amp....in which case you'd only be going from 300 watts per sub to 400 per sub with a second amp.... | ||
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Bronze Member Username: DjhasanicesoundsystemVista, Ca Usa Post Number: 48 Registered: Feb-07 | well would it make them louder and hit hareder?? | ||
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Silver Member Username: HootzSaskatoon, Saskatchewan Canada Post Number: 243 Registered: Oct-05 | if they're dual 2 ohm subs, you'd have a bit of an increase. if they're dual 4 ohm subs, they're gonna be louder and hit way harder. Can you find out what they are for sure? | ||
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Silver Member Username: HootzSaskatoon, Saskatchewan Canada Post Number: 244 Registered: Oct-05 | AND I'm going by your post in amplifiers....saying your amp is a mrp-m650. that's not a 350 watt amp and it's not a crappy amp. it's 400 watts at 4 ohm and 600 watts at 2 ohm | ||
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Bronze Member Username: DjhasanicesoundsystemVista, Ca Usa Post Number: 50 Registered: Feb-07 | ya i will call the place and ask them if they can tell me what they sold me and they better or im taking them back and getting something that works even better that every one here would suggest and i would car how much to spend. | ||
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Silver Member Username: HootzSaskatoon, Saskatchewan Canada Post Number: 246 Registered: Oct-05 | It doesn't sound like you got ripped off. And be careful what advice you take from here. Alpine makes good amps and kicker cvr's are hard hitting subs. For someone with little experience and knowledge like you, buying from a local shop isn't necessarily a bad thing even if you're paying an extra hundred or two. You have someone to complain to if you blow a sub or amp, and a certified install. Ebay and online vendors come with NO factory warranty, and you're dealing with problems over the phone and e-mail, and in my experience, they aren't to eager to help. | ||
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Bronze Member Username: DjhasanicesoundsystemVista, Ca Usa Post Number: 53 Registered: Feb-07 | i see so then i should just purchase everything locally and learn everything from them or what? | ||
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Silver Member Username: HootzSaskatoon, Saskatchewan Canada Post Number: 247 Registered: Oct-05 | I buy locally and learn from here, or other forums, reviews, etc. You're not gonna get a good product review from a shop, because they're obviously going to talk up whatever's in stock. And buy from whatever you're comfortable with. I don't buy everything locally, just the more expensive stuff like electronics and speakers. I have bought stuff like higher end stinger wiring, fuse holders, etc. online just because there's no risk in it not working, or frying when it gets to you. But I have trouble spending hundreds on high end electronics with no warranty, or even a guarantee that it'll work. Like I said before, I spent $600 on an amp from etronics.com, and it came to me with the serial numbers peeled off. | ||
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Bronze Member Username: DjhasanicesoundsystemVista, Ca Usa Post Number: 55 Registered: Feb-07 | d@mn that really sucks but does it work right and good | ||
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Bronze Member Username: DjhasanicesoundsystemVista, Ca Usa Post Number: 56 Registered: Feb-07 | ok do u know how to re size photos that you have taken and make them so they will fit the criteria for the forum? | ||
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Gold Member Username: Livin_loud18 of Love Fi Audio Post Number: 1135 Registered: Jan-06 | you can use paint, adobe photoshop, any photo editor will do the trick really... | ||
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Bronze Member Username: DjhasanicesoundsystemVista, Ca Usa Post Number: 57 Registered: Feb-07 | ok then ill try that stuff | ||
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Silver Member Username: HootzSaskatoon, Saskatchewan Canada Post Number: 248 Registered: Oct-05 | yeah, it works fine. The only reason they do it is so the product can't be traced back to the supplier that sold it to an unauthorized dealer, or they'll be in sh!t with the manufacturer. Luckily they forgot to take the birth sheet out of the box which had the s/n on it. I sent a few e-mails to different areas of Alpine with the s/n, just to let them know. The big thing you gotta worry about is some companies stamp the internals of their equipment, like I read JL stamps it somewhere under the voice coil of there W7's, and unauthorized retailers or their suppliers will actually dismantle the sub to remove it, then glue the thing back together..... | ||
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Bronze Member Username: DjhasanicesoundsystemVista, Ca Usa Post Number: 58 Registered: Feb-07 | now that is fu<king bu11sh1t man. ok i will never buy an amp or sub off the internet | ||
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Silver Member Username: HootzSaskatoon, Saskatchewan Canada Post Number: 250 Registered: Oct-05 | Yeah, I'll probably get ripped on for that comment...and I'm sure there's plenty of positive online transactions, but I'm not the type to gamble on that kind of money, and one bad experience was enough. | ||
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Gold Member Username: Livin_loud18 of Love Fi Audio Post Number: 1140 Registered: Jan-06 | ^^^ you might have a slight limit on options for equipment then lol. as long as you buy from an online authorized dealer, there wont be a problem | ||
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Bronze Member Username: DjhasanicesoundsystemVista, Ca Usa Post Number: 60 Registered: Feb-07 | do you know what kinda brand that omega sub or what ever its called name is cuz i like those they seem to be pretty nice and loud | ||
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Silver Member Username: HootzSaskatoon, Saskatchewan Canada Post Number: 251 Registered: Oct-05 | I'm in a big enough city that there's plenty of dealers for a lot of companies. And yeah, I'd buy from any online dealer that's authorized, but there aren't very many of them. Crutchfield is the only one that sells Alpine and won't ship to Canada due to territory restrictions, JL doesn't authorize anyone online, and I'm sure most others are few and far between too. The only one I can think of off the top of my head is Kicker. But they're all around the msrp anyways, and can't go below the factory authorized price. So you're not saving anything. |
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