Silver Member Username: The_image_dynamicSan Diego Post Number: 176 Registered: Dec-06 | All specs listed below are for the standardversion , daily tolerences, with no options. 10" D1 D2 Re 1.5 3.0 Fs 41.5 40.3 Hz Qms 5.43 5.58 Qes .37 .34 Qts .35 .33 Mms 155 164g Vas 12.8 12.8l Sd 310 310cm^2 Bl 12.8 19 Spl 85.8 85.7 1W/1m 12" D1 D2 Re 1.5 3.0 Fs 38.7 37.8 Hz Qms 5.79 5.93 Qes .39 .37 Qts .37 .34 Mms 177 184g Vas 30.9 30.9l Sd 480 480cm^2 Bl 12.8 19 Spl 88.0 88.4 1W/1m 15" D1 D2 Re 1.5 3.0 Fs 35.1 34.5 Hz Qms 6.23 6.34 Qes .47 .43 Qts .44 .40 Mms 232 240g Vas 81.6 81.6l Sd 810 810cm^2 Bl 12.8 19 Spl 90.6 90.7 1W/1m 18" D1 D2 Re 1.5 3.0 Fs 33.1 32.5 Hz Qms 6.43 6.54 Qes .53 .49 Qts .49 .46 Mms 280 290 g Vas 169.7 169.7 l Sd 1210 1210cm^2 Bl 12.8 19 Spl 92.5 92.6 Ill get a couple more pics up and update this post in a little bit... Thanks... Scott |
Silver Member Username: The_image_dynamicSan Diego Post Number: 178 Registered: Dec-06 | They named it the BL. |
Gold Member Username: Tdeaton1021Near Tampa, Florida USA Post Number: 3510 Registered: Sep-04 | thats quite a high fs. |
Bronze Member Username: MgbcsLincoln, Nebraska Post Number: 76 Registered: Dec-06 | Is there pricing info or RMS handling out on them yet? I was exploring the Fi website, but didn't see anything. I'm excited |
Gold Member Username: SouthernrebelMonroe, Louisiana DD 9515d~~]... Post Number: 4029 Registered: Mar-04 | the 15" is $279 shipped....rated 1000-1500w i think...but it will have add-ons like the BTL |
Gold Member Username: SouthernrebelMonroe, Louisiana DD 9515d~~]... Post Number: 4030 Registered: Mar-04 | Here is a post the Scott (owner) made: "OK... sorry, my computer is being a PITA the past couple of days... and I have a new one on the way, so bear with me 2 new driver pics. (IMG:http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h244/mozvegas/Small%20Fi%20pics/New1201.jpg) (IMG:http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h244/mozvegas/Small%20Fi%20pics/New1202.jpg) Based off of the same pair of magnets as the Q, but using a solid pole like the BTL so we can do the pole chamfer and full cooling, a few coil up grades, and a "SPL" version with the tighter tolerences and heavy BTL leadwire. Pricing will start at the same prices as the Q line: 10" $249 12" $259 15" $279 18" $309 Power handling for the standard version is 1000W, with the ability to go up from there with different coil and cooling options added. It is designed to fill the gap between the Q and BTL for low power SPL, or daily driving apps. So a "fully loaded" whatever the name of it will be sub will come in right at what a standard BTL will do (but still for a couple less $$$ and a higher qts and lighter package). Its not a Q v2.0 or anything like that It is a harder hitting daily driver with less Xmax and a little more mechanical durability. Name and more pics to come ;) Thanks... Scott " |
Bronze Member Username: MgbcsLincoln, Nebraska Post Number: 77 Registered: Dec-06 | So it's the same base price as the Q? ONly there will be further options? |
Gold Member Username: Mr_keboAlbertville, Al USA Post Number: 1143 Registered: Nov-04 | yes |
Bronze Member Username: MgbcsLincoln, Nebraska Post Number: 78 Registered: Dec-06 | Maybe this is a bad question, but is anyone planning on picking one up right away? |
Gold Member Username: CtmikeCt. Post Number: 2930 Registered: Feb-06 | i'm waiting at my computer right now with my credit card in hand |
Silver Member Username: Tremor1127Wishes there was an 18... Post Number: 688 Registered: Aug-06 | im getting 2 18"s... |
Bronze Member Username: MgbcsLincoln, Nebraska Post Number: 79 Registered: Dec-06 | lol that's awesome. So will the information post later tonight or something? I cant wait! |
Silver Member Username: Tremor1127Wishes there was an 18... Post Number: 689 Registered: Aug-06 | its just a little at a time right now... scotts computer is being homoerotic right now... |
Bronze Member Username: MgbcsLincoln, Nebraska Post Number: 81 Registered: Dec-06 | ok...I see. Well, I guess I'll just have to be patient lol. Tremor....what are you powering these babies with? |
Silver Member Username: The_image_dynamicSan Diego Post Number: 179 Registered: Dec-06 | Scott sent some people all the info and they can't post it at SSA either, Marshall is over there right now so whatever happens he will probably post it here. Anyways, we have most of the info in this thread and the Fi web site doesn't look like it will be updated until tomorrow at the earliest. Scott said he might set up an alternate ordering method for now. Stay tuned. |
Silver Member Username: The_image_dynamicSan Diego Post Number: 180 Registered: Dec-06 | "Standard sub comes with a round wire aluminum coil, rated at 1000W RMS. You can up the thermal capacity by adding the flatwind coils, pole chamfer, and full cooling. You will also have a choice of either the "Daily" or tighter "SPL" tolerences as well as the option for the extra heavy leadwires (as used on the BTL's) Although I would add the caveat that they should be reserved might be reserved for SPL only as they can be noiser for daily driving purposes. Xmax is 21mm." |
Silver Member Username: The_image_dynamicSan Diego Post Number: 181 Registered: Dec-06 | Pricing on Upgrades Pricing starts out same as Q ++ options Flatwind - 20$ Pole Chamfer - $10 Full Cooling - $40 BTL Leads - $5 Spl / Daily option is free, but is based off of usage. |
Silver Member Username: Tremor1127Wishes there was an 18... Post Number: 690 Registered: Aug-06 | Ben, they will be powered by a Concept CD-2410 (2410rms @ 1ohm, rating). 240amp alternator, yellow top for amp, all 1/0 wiring. i will eventually buy a cheap SUV just to add 2 more and build a wall for all 4 and power them with a couple good SPL amps... not a f@rt car, just a groundpounder, maybe some tiny hairtricks... |
Silver Member Username: Tremor1127Wishes there was an 18... Post Number: 691 Registered: Aug-06 | "Spl / Daily option is free, but is based off of usage." i dont get this. explain... |
Gold Member Username: SouthernrebelMonroe, Louisiana DD 9515d~~]... Post Number: 4032 Registered: Mar-04 | That just means the gap will be tighter for the SPL option. You get more of a chance of a coil rubbing, but you also get more motor force applied to the coils...usually results in alil more efficiency. |
Silver Member Username: Tremor1127Wishes there was an 18... Post Number: 692 Registered: Aug-06 | thats all i needed to know, thanks... |
Silver Member Username: Goodie_goopMidland, Texas U.S. Post Number: 132 Registered: Oct-06 | woo hoo im ordering a 15" later this week |
Gold Member Username: Nyyfan13Fi SSD USA Post Number: 2553 Registered: Jul-06 | that thing looks nice |
Gold Member Username: JohnfiacIL Afghanistan,... Post Number: 1048 Registered: Mar-06 | sombody let me hear a dammn FI sub!@!!!!!! They should call it the FI BTLFTP "BTL FOR THE POOR" lol j\p guys :-D Who is around the south side or south burbs of chicago that has any FI subs? Preferably fully loaded BTL's in a nice setup.... i want to get subs, think the BTL's look great but hear the SQ isnt really that good and its almost impossible to hit about 150 with a single sub setup, althought that is hard to do, i heard the DD9915 can easily do it. Im so stuck in choosing what sub(s)\brand to go with...... i hate trying new brands when dishing out so much money! BLAH!!! |
Gold Member Username: JohnfiacIL Afghanistan,... Post Number: 1049 Registered: Mar-06 | I didnt mean for that to sound like im dissing FI.. but then i might just be trying to compare to almost completely different subs to eachother... i compared the 9915 with the fully loaded BTL... never heard either but form what i heard was mentioned above... i really want to hear each of the subs.... dd9515, dd 9915, and FI 15BTL fully loaded. |
Silver Member Username: Andrew571Stillwater/Edmond, Oklahoma USA Post Number: 592 Registered: Oct-05 | I bet the new line can take 2krms loaded, easy. :P |
Gold Member Username: Nyyfan13Fi SSD USA Post Number: 2556 Registered: Jul-06 | to any fi rep or anyone who knows the answer... when is fi gonna get stickers? its not that big of a deal, im just curious...thanks whoever knows and answers |
Silver Member Username: Rosrock2000FI SSD 12 , MI USA Post Number: 122 Registered: Dec-06 | yeah i want one kinda bad.. even though the average car audio peeps dont know what it is.. |
Silver Member Username: Dmm2005DD Audio ORION, Warren Count... USA Post Number: 431 Registered: Aug-06 | i want he Fi shirt steve meade has! |
Silver Member Username: The_image_dynamicSan Diego Post Number: 182 Registered: Dec-06 | ****************** BL SERIES ORDER INFO ***************** For the time being orders will be taken via Paypal payment for the new BL Series. To place an order, please send payment to: BLOrders@FiCarAudio.com In your Paypal payment please be sure to include the cost of any/all options you want as well as a list of what you are ordering in the notes section. Also make sure that your listed Paypal shipping address is the one you want it to go to... and a phone number is never a bad idea either. If you have any other ordering questions regarding the BL Series, please feel free to email me at BLOrders@FiCarAudio.com. All other tech orders or questions regarding the BL or any other products should still go through the Sales@FiCarAudio.com address. Thanks... Scott |
Bronze Member Username: ThugshizzLong Beach, California Post Number: 80 Registered: Jan-05 | I have a ?, how is the SQ of the BL compare to the sq of a Q or SSD ? |
Gold Member Username: Nyyfan13Fi SSD USA Post Number: 2587 Registered: Jul-06 | the BL is suppoed to be spl...i beleive |
Silver Member Username: Goodie_goopMidland, Texas U.S. Post Number: 136 Registered: Oct-06 | no one knows for sure yet.....but not supposed to be as good as the Q...prolly better then the SSD or around the same...but i dont really know id hafta say closer to the BTL on SQ, but you didnt mention the BTL so i uno if that helps |
Bronze Member Username: ThugshizzLong Beach, California Post Number: 82 Registered: Jan-05 | Well I hear the it will have more output than the Q but will it sound as good. |
Silver Member Username: Goodie_goopMidland, Texas U.S. Post Number: 137 Registered: Oct-06 | no...but it shouldnt sound too bad your best bet is to wait for someone to install and listen to it and listen to wat they say about it |
Silver Member Username: Spandmh1Tunnel hill, Ga CANT WAIT... Usa Post Number: 149 Registered: Oct-06 | anyone think itll bump good?! i want to see it in action. |
Silver Member Username: Goodie_goopMidland, Texas U.S. Post Number: 138 Registered: Oct-06 | i REALY hope it will bump good |
Silver Member Username: CashbyPost Number: 163 Registered: Oct-06 | how much is a fully loaded 12" BL sub?? |
Silver Member Username: Gh0st_31FL USA Post Number: 162 Registered: May-06 | $259 - starting price Options: Daily, SPL, or Universal* - no charge (Dont use the SPL for daily) $20 Flatwind (D1 and D2) $10 Pole Chamfer $40 Full Cooling $5 Heavy Leadwire (But not recommended for daily) Grand total of $334 |
Silver Member Username: CashbyPost Number: 164 Registered: Oct-06 | why shouldnt i use spl for daily? alsow at would be louder a 12" Q or a Normal 12" BL ?? |
Silver Member Username: Gh0st_31FL USA Post Number: 163 Registered: May-06 | well depends on what you listen to and want from your system. Q more directly to SQ and BL more directed to SPL. Both would be great. |
Silver Member Username: CashbyPost Number: 165 Registered: Oct-06 | and wat are the sealed box recommendations for a 12"............same as Q ???? |
Silver Member Username: CashbyPost Number: 166 Registered: Oct-06 | do u have any of that info yet? and also what is the universal one that u mentioned above..is that just like spl and daily combined? |
Silver Member Username: Gh0st_31FL USA Post Number: 164 Registered: May-06 | not sure truthfully, but i would assume yes |
Silver Member Username: Goodie_goopMidland, Texas U.S. Post Number: 140 Registered: Oct-06 | ya i wanna know what the universal is all about too...but i think scott said in his post that the SPL version will not last as long if you use it for daily |
Silver Member Username: Livin_loud18 of Love Fi Audio Post Number: 822 Registered: Jan-06 | For sale: Fi 18" Q lol |
Bronze Member Username: NkknutsonPost Number: 21 Registered: Dec-06 | so if i get one of these and they come D1 and D2 which do i choose to wire the sub to 2ohm. i'm only getting one sub thanks |
Silver Member Username: Rosrock2000FI SSD 12 , MI USA Post Number: 136 Registered: Dec-06 | nate, get the dual 1 version.. wire it series. |
Bronze Member Username: NkknutsonPost Number: 22 Registered: Dec-06 | ok one more question sounds like this sub can run between 1200rms to 2000rms "2000rms is loaded" i think im going to get the cooling and flat coil so maybe some where around 1500rms or so and was wanting some ideas for a amp could be 2ohm or 1ohm? i'm gitting the daily sub. thanks p.s. need some help don't know many amps only heard of kicker but feels like i'm paying some extra for the name. |
Silver Member Username: Livin_loud18 of Love Fi Audio Post Number: 826 Registered: Jan-06 | kicker makes great amps. use hifonics for a tight budget, but get one basically right above your desired RMS. orion, jbl, re, and rockford fosgate are all good as well, but you'd be good with a kicker... |
Gold Member Username: JohnfiacIL Afghanistan,... Post Number: 1057 Registered: Mar-06 | you might want a extra battery to. 1500rms is pushing it on stock charging system, unless you already upgraded, get the D1 and wire in series for 2ohm, get a mono amp that does around 1500rms@2ohms and you should be good. |
Bronze Member Username: DenimWww.TeamSSAudio.com, MD Post Number: 68 Registered: Nov-06 | Most of all of these questions can be answered directly by FI on their forum. |
Bronze Member Username: Fi_car_audioHades, NV Post Number: 95 Registered: Sep-06 | Denim to the rescue ;) |