Whole SQ system....what do you think about this?
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Silver Member Username: Dmm2005DD Audio ORION, Warren Count... USA Post Number: 280 Registered: Aug-06 | Im thinking about changing my setup to purely SQ and saving up towards a mustang. How does this sound. keep my deh-p780mp kicker zx700.5 one of my DD 1012as sealed in about 2.5 cu.ft. cdt comps up front infinity kappa co-axs in the back |
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Gold Member Username: CenusStonerville, Ohio Post Number: 2558 Registered: Jan-05 | sounds good, only thing is if you want a better sq you might wanna look at the AA atlas, not saying the dd is bad but the atlas is considered by most one of the top sq subs, AA is seeling off the last 15's too put it in the 2.5cf box and they will sound great, i should know since i own 2. |
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Platinum Member Username: RovinTrinidad & T... Post Number: 10037 Registered: Jul-05 | i dont think DD rec their subs being put in sealed boxes get maybe a 12w6 instead 4 some real SQ ...... |
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Gold Member Username: Basshead86FTW Post Number: 9268 Registered: Aug-05 | it is like the natural Car Audio Evolution. stock~~~>SPL~~~>SQL~~~>SQ......... |
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Silver Member Username: Dmm2005DD Audio ORION, Warren Count... USA Post Number: 282 Registered: Aug-06 | lol your pretty much right muddy...im trying to get a sports car and i dont want to weigh down the back and i dont need a rediculously loud system anymore ive proven my point. I just wanna get the 4 12s mic'd and ill be happy. The main reason i was thinkin about the DD is since i already have them it would be easier than trying to sell all of them and starting from scratch. |
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Gold Member Username: RedlinerWilmington, Ma Post Number: 3313 Registered: Jun-05 | cant go sealed w/ dd |
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Silver Member Username: Dmm2005DD Audio ORION, Warren Count... USA Post Number: 283 Registered: Aug-06 | would it sound good ported tuned to around 33 hz? would the bass be pretty tight? |
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Gold Member Username: CtmikeCt. Post Number: 2591 Registered: Feb-06 | port them high like dd recommends. you'll be surprised at how good they still sound compared to other subs that are tuned high. |
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Gold Member Username: MixneffectOrangevale, Ca. USA Post Number: 1201 Registered: Apr-05 | So you want a SQ system, huh? First of all, you have to identify to yourself what SQ is. Is it just some really clear tweeters that dont scratch your tympanies, and/or some mids that arent drowned out by the subs or tweeters? Or are you talking about some subs that dont just vibrate your seat and flex your roof averaging 60 Hz. Ya this may sound funny, but to most it is a reality. SQ is so easily misunderstood, and almost always abused. To me SQ is a flat response. Bar none. This means that you will hear exactly the same sound as if you were standing right in front of whatever it is that was previously recorded, without actually ever being there.  Take todays most popular 2.1 set up in car audio for instance; What kind of sound stage do you have? This means, where are your speakers (components) located? Do you have rear fill? Does the cars interior affect a natural flat response, if so, how? Does your bass sound as if it is coming from your sub which may be located in the back? Are any of your speakers faster or slower responding in comparison to the others? Does your system sound in or out of phase? Did you know that most (over 99%) recordings do not transfer a flat response? Just thought I would throw these out there for ya. Hope this helps you achieve your SQ fantasy. I know I ve tried many times to get perfection, and well, I always ended up compromising, lol. oh well at least it sounds better than off the rack sales pitches, lol |
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Silver Member Username: Dmm2005DD Audio ORION, Warren Count... USA Post Number: 284 Registered: Aug-06 | good points. If i get the mustang i want, it will be 5.25 comps up front that are lower down in the doors, 6x8s in the rear deck and most likely a 12 in the trunk. Possibly kick panel speakers as well but im not really sure. The goal i am trying to acheive is a well balanced sound where all bass is tight and the response is quick. I want the system to get pretty loud but remain clean sounding. I am used to running just SQL and SPL systems so any advidce is welcome. |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinResonant Engineering..., Fort Worth... Email Post Number: 1944 Registered: Nov-05 | i'd dump the 6x8s for a 6" component set.. don't forget the component amp.. did not see one listed btw.. i replied in the for sale section about the SX 15 |
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Gold Member Username: Extrmndor3Friday, Str8t to the Gentlemans club Post Number: 2728 Registered: Feb-06 | i dont recomend you kappas with cdt, kappas have the tweeter too hard and with the soft of the cdt it will unbalance the sound, get a pair of nice polk audio speaker for backs and they will keep up with highs and mids with the cdt's lilrob |
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Gold Member Username: JuliobSanto DomingoDominican Re... Post Number: 3586 Registered: Dec-05 | w6, i'm with rovin on this one |
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Silver Member Username: Dmm2005DD Audio ORION, Warren Count... USA Post Number: 285 Registered: Aug-06 | would using components in the back make that much of a difference over high quality co-axs? |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinResonant Engineering..., Fort Worth... Email Post Number: 1946 Registered: Nov-05 | i'd actually suggest just using a good midbass driver in the back.. then pair it with a great front stage.. |
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Gold Member Username: Extrmndor3Friday, Str8t to the Gentlemans club Post Number: 2731 Registered: Feb-06 | midbass in back will not sound as good as having some coaxials or compoenets that can get low and provide good highs. the polks will get ya some nice midbass and awesome highs, and price is great |
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Gold Member Username: RedlinerWilmington, Ma Post Number: 3315 Registered: Jun-05 | in reality in a mustang there is no reason why even need s\any rear fill just get a nice set of comps upfront and then ur one sub in the back sealed and ull b happy but if u feel the need id get another set of comps for the back same type as the front not good to mix speaker types especially if u want to go for sq cause they all play a diff sound and what not cause there not the same speaker |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinResonant Engineering..., Fort Worth... Email Post Number: 1949 Registered: Nov-05 | if your seriously into SQ.. you will need some type of rear fill unless you have a truck.. then you might be able to get away with it. you don't need much just enough to be hear slightly. you want to be more concerned about your staging up front.. i'd suggest some kick pods unless you want to re-work your door panels |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Ct Post Number: 7516 Registered: Dec-04 | Agreed Charlie Unless you are in a large car/suv there is no need for rear fill especially is perfect imaging is what your goal is. In a perfect workld you will need time alignment and a excellent front stage all time aligned to hit your ear from the front at the same time, as if you were standing at a concert. A good component set and a w6v2 sealed will be fantastic, trust me I have run this system for a long time and was nothing but happy another sub to try in a small sealed box would be a ID max or a SI mag. |
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Gold Member Username: RedlinerWilmington, Ma Post Number: 3319 Registered: Jun-05 | ya im going all sq and thats why im going with my dls iridiums and a mag sealed in the back but i have a 00 eclipse reason im not running rear fill is cause its a very small car. |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinResonant Engineering..., Fort Worth... Email Post Number: 1954 Registered: Nov-05 | hmm.. Idk how'd you compare the inside of my jetta to your car but I consider my car small and had an SQ judge do a run through on my car.. he said I needed a little rear fill but needed to concentrate mostly on my front stage. as far as staging in my car.. its not too bad.. just need to bring it inwards more but it is at least ear level |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Ct Post Number: 7520 Registered: Dec-04 | the thing with SQ Kevin is it is different for everyone. That judge might like a little rear fill. I agree with a little bit if it is time aligned properly. |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinResonant Engineering..., Fort Worth... Email Post Number: 1957 Registered: Nov-05 | just enough to be heard .. staging is everything though so I'd really suggest some kick pods |
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Gold Member Username: MixneffectOrangevale, Ca. USA Post Number: 1206 Registered: Apr-05 | Jettas are great for SQ as far as interior shape is concerned, but I'm not too crazy about the front stage stock "locations". |
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Gold Member Username: MixneffectOrangevale, Ca. USA Post Number: 1207 Registered: Apr-05 | BTW, a girl at church asked, "whats the thing with guys drivin jettas?" LOL |
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Silver Member Username: Devastation101Audioque SD2.5-ville, HENDERSON, NC US of A Post Number: 369 Registered: Feb-06 | Hey Goin Deaf, call me when you see this. I want to talk to you about that amp |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinResonant Engineering..., Fort Worth... Email Post Number: 1959 Registered: Nov-05 | i was going to get a VW GTI VR6 6spd .. but when I got quoted 400 for insurance I said the hell with it.. at the time it was either the Jetta or a Mazda6.. and well I'd rather have a Jetta. Personally I don't much care for the car but it gets decent gas mileage which my truck certainly did not |
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Gold Member Username: Basshead86FTW Post Number: 9275 Registered: Aug-05 | i agree with Mixneffect 110%. SQ to some people is a completely different beast than it is to someone who has heard a lot of systems, or likes a particular sound from a set of tweeters/mids/etc. |
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Gold Member Username: BestmankindFi AudioBTL Post Number: 7566 Registered: Oct-05 | nooooo going deaf. a very wise man once said "life begins at 150db". |
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Platinum Member Username: RovinTrinidad & T... Post Number: 10041 Registered: Jul-05 | ^^^ & i wonder who said that ........ |
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Gold Member Username: AdddisorderWest palm, Florida Post Number: 2114 Registered: Jan-06 |
why not charile, i ran my 3512 sealed in 2 cubes. iv also talked to some people on the dd forum who have ran DDs sealed with no problem. only reason i sealed mine is i wanted flat response and didnt car about loud although it got plenty loud and goin deaf man why not hop on bord with the SI MAG group buy one of the top SQ subs |
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Gold Member Username: JakeyplaysbassSt. Louis, MO Post Number: 1549 Registered: Jul-05 | another sq sub to look into is the Boston G5. |
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Silver Member Username: Dmm2005DD Audio ORION, Warren Count... USA Post Number: 287 Registered: Aug-06 | i really thought about the group buy but i dont have the money right now to get a sub and save it...i want to be sure im getting the car before i do all that stuff. and id like to sell my 1012s first too. |
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Gold Member Username: JakeyplaysbassSt. Louis, MO Post Number: 1550 Registered: Jul-05 | do you have pics of your 4 DDs? |
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Silver Member Username: Dmm2005DD Audio ORION, Warren Count... USA Post Number: 288 Registered: Aug-06 | here are some pics jake https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/car-audio/295564.html |
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Gold Member Username: RedlinerWilmington, Ma Post Number: 3321 Registered: Jun-05 | not saying u cant just saying there ment for ported i mean of course its possible just the sq would still be better in a ported box cause there not made at all for sealed even ask the dd tech theyll tell you that |
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Gold Member Username: AdddisorderWest palm, Florida Post Number: 2150 Registered: Jan-06 | hmm yeah i can understand theyre made for ported boxes but i dont see how thed give you bettter sq in a ported box because your still not going to have a very flat responce opposed to sealed |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Ct Post Number: 7602 Registered: Dec-04 | Hey Jale, the g5's are fantastic subs I almost bought one recently to run in my truck. |
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Silver Member Username: Dmm2005DD Audio ORION, Warren Count... USA Post Number: 291 Registered: Aug-06 | i havent heard boston's subs, but i really like how the boston pro components sound. |
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Silver Member Username: Dmm2005DD Audio ORION, Warren Count... USA Post Number: 292 Registered: Aug-06 | maybe i should go on overhaulin and get a boston system and my car pimped out lol |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Ct Post Number: 7607 Registered: Dec-04 | they are very nice, they get nice and low in small sealed enclsoure's also SQ is top notch |
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Silver Member Username: Tremor1127Post Number: 523 Registered: Aug-06 | the boston g5s sound awesome sealed. one even sounded good in a pro box made for camaro... |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Ct Post Number: 7621 Registered: Dec-04 | was it ported? I have never heard them ported but I know Boston doesnt reccomend it. |
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Silver Member Username: JohammbassIRL Post Number: 721 Registered: May-06 | Anybody wants to state that Boston G5 would sound better than these? http://www.seaslotus.com/subwoofers.asp Well Boston is finally doing the shorting ring (only one though) on their VC's, that's progress , about fuking time. However, Seas is still out of their league Muddy is 100% right about the "car audio evolution" |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Ct Post Number: 7627 Registered: Dec-04 | I have never heard the seas, I have head good things about them but never heard personally. I have heard the G5 on many occasions and it is very nice. |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Ct Post Number: 7628 Registered: Dec-04 | yeah seriously, when you first start all you want is loud, then loud becomes annoying and you want loud with detail, then as you get older detail becomes crucial |
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