Ok, I am pretty sure I am going to sell/trade off my RF T2 12's and get something more clarity oriented. I am not really to concerned with price, but more with having that good tight punchy base of an 8 but with the depth of a 12.
Current equipment: optima redtop under the hood Mr alternator 150A Big three done in 1/0 JBL 140A fuse block Phoenix Gold Xenon 1200.1
I have been considering the infinity VQ's does anyone have any first hand with them?
Unless I'm completely missing the point here....we can debate all day as to which sub has the best SQ....since everyone has different hearing isn't the best SQ the one that you personally think sounds cleanest? (I mean no one can have heard every sub ever made, right?)
re XXX doesn't have as good of SQ as a SE or MX....or so i have read many times.....and if that is the case.....there are a lot of subs that beat out the XXX.
just what i have read....i heard a XXX and it was MAGICAL...simply MAGICAL....so i don't see how those other subs could be any more accurate or clean....considering the motor used at the time.(i am talking about the old one)
i love the sound of the re xxx (the old one). after i get tired of not having a backseat in my car, i am thinking of doing a single xxx15 in the trunk.
i think for clarity and SQ the w6v2, but i mean u guys might as well finish the list of every sub ever made in this thread, i mean u already got a good start.
First off, Thank you all for the replies. Obviously there are a good amount of options out there. Please keep in mind that I can only offer 600w per ch and I intend to run 2 12's.
"since everyone has different hearing isn't the best SQ the one that you personally think sounds cleanest? (I mean no one can have heard every sub ever made, right?)" KKlagge you are completely right. I have been looking through a lot of different subs. The problem is, due to local, it is very hard to hear every type of sub around and see if you like the sound, so rather than just ordering blind from the internet I am trying to get a feel for the majority opinion.
MuDDy, you said something that I thought was kind of funny "....you think you know what "good" is until you have heard what good "really" is. lol" That is exactly where I am at. I have shown many kids my system and blown there mind with both clarity and the sheer amount of sealed airflow being pushed throughout my 4runner. I know how bass should sound and be produced. The fosgates I am running sound amazing, but I am trying to force that sub to be something its not and it does not agree with me. But I have had cleaner subs that can hit higher notes and produce a more flattened range (mine decimate the low tones but only hit half as hard on the higher notes).
I have peronally owned a bunch of 10's but I am very limited on 12's The only brands of 12 I have owned are MTX 9500, Eclipse TI and Now the RF T2's I am currently using. All of which have been used in well built enclosures and properly amped and wired (well with the exception of the Fosgates).
I have a very deep seated hatred for JL due to a personal issue with one of their regional managers. So sadly they are absolutely out of the running.
Here are the main few I have never heard in 12" that I am interested in: Infinity VQ Image Dynamics Q or Max Diamond Audio TDX or D9 TC Sound LMS 4000 RE SE
If it is not too much trouble would you all be willing to focus on your own personal experience with an of the folloing brands. Or if any of you live in the seattle area and have or know of a set wired and ready, hit me up and we can figure out a way to meet up.
the Q would be very nice. the least loudest of the bunch.
the MAx is out of production...so good luck finding one of those...i am not sure when the v.4 is supposed to come out.
i haven't heard the TDX or D9, people speak highly of them, but i can't find myself to be attracted to Diamond Audio products. lol
the TC Sounds LMS imo, is prob one of the best SQ subs on the market due to its unique voice coil. it has -3db distortion than any of TC's other subs. to hear one of the engineer's talk about it(Kyle on ROE forum) it sounds simply magical. he says the TC series of subs is a bit louder, but they aren't nearly as clean as the LMS. besides that the LMS is a beast...and i bet it will get fairly loud.
Chauncey claims and i agree, that the RE SE is a VERY good SQ sub from RE. they are right around 600wRMS too i beleive.
the w6 is very nice. I am not a huge fan of the SQ of the larger XBL motor driver's, they all seem to lack in the upper HZ region. ID max is very nice aswell as IDQ. TC sounds gets a good vote from me also.
