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New member Username: BertokamusPost Number: 1 Registered: Aug-06 | Hi all- New to the board, here... I realize there are about a million posts for amp suggestions here, but I see some experiences users present and I'd value input from anybody/everybody, please! I've got a pair of Eclipse SW9102's I'm presently driving with a pair of Infinity Beta Digital 300's but I've nearly killed one of the Beta Digitals, and am now forced to upgrade. The Eclipses are Dual Voice Coil, 4ohm+4ohm each, rated at 750 RMS / 1500 Peak each. I'm open to 2-ch amps, Mono amps, single amps, a pair of amps, you name it. Price isn't a real constraint, I'm open to higher-end stuff, and would consider it. Also, I'd like to use an amp or amps that'd be running well below capacity- I don't want to push my amps' capabilities anymore, I want to push the speakers'. If I put together a setup that'd equate to 1000 Watts RMS each speaker, it wouldn't bother me- I'd almost prefer it. the12volt.com suggests either "Option 1, parallel/parallel = 1 Ohm load" or "Option 2, series/parallel = 4 ohm load", but I don't know what kind of wattage I'd need to look for in a 1 Ohm mono amp for Option 1, or a 4/2/1 Ohm mono amp for Option 2. Suggestions all around would be greatly appreciated, and THANKS! in advance... |
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Gold Member Username: CtmikeCt. Post Number: 1345 Registered: Feb-06 | don't know your budget, but a pair of kicker 750.1 amps would work nicely. |
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Silver Member Username: Rick_rossPost Number: 374 Registered: May-06 | get 2 jl 1000/1's it doesnt matter if you hook them up to 1 ohm 2 ohm or 4 ohm it will still put out 1000 watts |
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New member Username: BertokamusPost Number: 2 Registered: Aug-06 | ALSO! I'd be interested in amps higher than Class D, especially if they could make a difference, quality OR heat-wise. (I'm thinking like AB, or T, here...) |
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Gold Member Username: JuliobSanto DomingoDominican Re... Post Number: 1871 Registered: Dec-05 | what you need is a 1500-1800w rms amp at 1 ohm, Mono and class D(more efficient for subs) that would be the cheapest thing you can do instead of getting many amps. plus read about amp classes... www.wickedcases.com |
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Gold Member Username: LbecknerTulsa, Ok Usa Post Number: 1106 Registered: Oct-04 | actually the eclipse ti's are rated per voice coil, so you need more like 3000 watts. |
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Gold Member Username: JuliobSanto DomingoDominican Re... Post Number: 1899 Registered: Dec-05 | yeah, that's true hehe, you're going to need a 3000w rms amp at 1 ohm hehe, do you have HO alt, yellow tops, big 3 upgrade???? |
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New member Username: BertokamusPost Number: 4 Registered: Aug-06 | Ah- I don't know about that "rated per voice coil" business- NOTHING implies that, whatsoever, on Eclipse's site... Not to mention that in another (what I consider to be a potentially more reputable) forum (the12volt.com) numerous people failed to suggest any such specification as that. (Including professional installers, etc) You can check out what this same thread has done, here, before anyone goes flaming me: http://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?TID=81732&PN=1&TPN=2 Also, you can check out the specs for this sub on Eclipse's site, here: http://www.eclipse-web.com/sw9100/sw9102.html Just throwing my 2 cents back out there, fellas. And to answer juliob- Yes. I've got a 200amp HO alt in production (going on a 350 V8), I've more than doubled the big 3, and I'm running a pair of yellow tops on an isolator. |
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Gold Member Username: JuliobSanto DomingoDominican Re... Post Number: 1942 Registered: Dec-05 | ok mr bertokamus, but lucas is saying the truth cuz he used to own them... they say 750w rms per voice coil... so they're 1500w rms per sub. |
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New member Username: BertokamusPost Number: 5 Registered: Aug-06 | First, albeit not necessarily "foremost," it's simply "Bertokamus." You can dispel with the "Mr" title- you're too kind. :-) Now, on the power rating- I'm not entirely averse to buying that, it's just that it's awfully hard for me to swallow without seeing it documented, somewhere... I'll grant you that because the Ti's are F'ing tanks they might be able to HANDLE 750w per voice coil, y'know, but I just can't find anything to the contrary that says they're *designed* for 750w per voice coil. I mean, when you state, "they say 750w rms per voice coil," who is this mythical "they," (other than Lucas), and where are you seeing this? I'm so curious because on the Eclipse site, if you read the embedded specs table on the right, below the picture- it's all-encompassing of the SUB, not the voice coils... And it states 750W RMS Power Handling, and 1500W Max Power Handling. Truthfully, this isn't an "I'm right and want to prove you wrong" type thing- it's almost a "Are you right? Please- prove me wrong, I'd like to know if I am" type thing. Thassall! If these monsters can handle an Eclipse DA7232 EACH as opposed to an Eclipse DA7232 per PAIR, I'd be interested in hearing just how it's documentedly possible. (Not like I'm actually going to drop another chunk of change on another DA7232, but it'd be cool to know- lol) |
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Gold Member Username: LbecknerTulsa, Ok Usa Post Number: 1107 Registered: Oct-04 | I know it sounds wierd and I've never heard of any other manufacturer doing this, but I called Eclipse and they told me that its rated per voice coil. I think that they made a mistake somewhere when they label the driver and are covering it up by saying its rated per voice coil. Any way call them and ask for yourself if you dont believe me. |
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Silver Member Username: Crayola0Wisconsin Post Number: 596 Registered: Jun-06 | i heard it was just a myth |
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Gold Member Username: JuliobSanto DomingoDominican Re... Post Number: 1954 Registered: Dec-05 | ninja has 2 of them and hes pushing them real nice with a 2000w + amp and he told us that he could push them harder cuz they're rated per coil... weird fact but true... |