Opened my orion
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Silver Member Username: ZulkirU.S.A. Post Number: 198 Registered: Dec-05 | i opend my orion today because i wasent going to send it in to get it fixed..thay wated more then i payed for it...anyways it lookes fine but on the bottem(lid when turned over) it had a black spot at the + - remote connections...anyone know what it could be and wht i could try to do to fix the amp by myself. i do have 2 years of electronics behind me so i wana give it a shot. any ideas woudl be helpful seming i dont know alot about the amp...its a orion 1200d. |
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Gold Member Username: Dustin3Tigard, OR U.S. Post Number: 2764 Registered: Oct-05 | where? http://ampguts.realmofexcursion.com/Orion_1200D/inside1.jpg |
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Silver Member Username: ZulkirU.S.A. Post Number: 199 Registered: Dec-05 | bottem right.i also seen smoke coming from it from that area. |
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Silver Member Username: ZulkirU.S.A. Post Number: 200 Registered: Dec-05 | well crap mabe it was top right...i think the black mark was above the coil of wire in the top right. |
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Silver Member Username: ZulkirU.S.A. Post Number: 201 Registered: Dec-05 | ya the ting to the right of the black box in the right top corner. |
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Silver Member Username: ZulkirU.S.A. Post Number: 202 Registered: Dec-05 | i would open it but my brother lsot the stuff so i cant right now |
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Gold Member Username: Dustin3Tigard, OR U.S. Post Number: 2766 Registered: Oct-05 | i'm not sure that that is. but you def. damaged somthin, and i would take it in to get it fixed. what did you do to it? |
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Silver Member Username: ZulkirU.S.A. Post Number: 203 Registered: Dec-05 | nvm ill repost when i get it back open....god ima go kick my brothers @ss right now. he loses everything |
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Gold Member Username: Dustin3Tigard, OR U.S. Post Number: 2767 Registered: Oct-05 | lol. what did you do to it??????? to cause this |
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Silver Member Username: ZulkirU.S.A. Post Number: 204 Registered: Dec-05 | thay wanty liek 250 to fix it n i only payed 285...no idea what i did it worked as i was driven to school and when i went back out to leav it just dident work.. so i checked the fuses..they were blown.. all 3 so i replaced them..and when i hocked back up the power it sparked(dident blow fuses again) and started smoking from the vent things above the + - terminals and that was it i took the amp out of my car. do u think it would be worth fixign it? and if so could i switch and run 1 type-r insted of 2? 2 is to much base for me and my alt. |
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Silver Member Username: ZulkirU.S.A. Post Number: 205 Registered: Dec-05 | u have any idea y it would start smoking from the - + spots when i connected the power? i had it set to a 1 ohm load and used 0awg wire to a cap and then 4awg from there.and took the + of both speakers n connected it to teh + on the amp and same with the -. |
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Gold Member Username: Dustin3Tigard, OR U.S. Post Number: 2774 Registered: Oct-05 | how was ur gain set? |
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Gold Member Username: IlluminatorUSA Post Number: 3711 Registered: Apr-05 | 285 to fix it?? Try audiotekx.com, they shouldn't charge more than $150! Check this out: http://www.audiotekx.com/services.html |
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Silver Member Username: ZulkirU.S.A. Post Number: 206 Registered: Dec-05 | my gain was 3/4 |
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Gold Member Username: JuliobSanto DomingoDominican Re... Post Number: 1472 Registered: Dec-05 | maybe that was part of the problem |
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Silver Member Username: ZulkirU.S.A. Post Number: 207 Registered: Dec-05 | what dose the gain actuly do? |
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Silver Member Username: ZulkirU.S.A. Post Number: 208 Registered: Dec-05 | i was told by a few people on here to do it about 3/4 |
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Gold Member Username: Dustin3Tigard, OR U.S. Post Number: 2776 Registered: Oct-05 | lol. those few people were obviously noobs. the gain is THE most important setting on an amp,and it should be set accordingly to the preout V, of the HU |
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Silver Member Username: ZulkirU.S.A. Post Number: 209 Registered: Dec-05 | i have the 7700mp..i think it is 2v..what should the gain be? |
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Gold Member Username: Dustin3Tigard, OR U.S. Post Number: 2777 Registered: Oct-05 | its control on the amp tht does not determine the maximum power that an amplifier can produce. As long as the signal level is clean,/ the amp can still produce the max power. The gain control are used to matych the amplifer's gain to the gain of the other amplifiers in the system (in the case of a multi-amp system). The gain controls also allow you to match the amplifier or amplfier's to the head unit. Not all head units have the same maximum preamp output voltage. Some head units are capable of producing 9 V out while others are only capable of 1.5 V out. A head unit will resach its max output level (clipping) well before the volume control reaches the upper end of its range (usually at a point of 85-90% of its maximum range). Because of all of this, the gain is very important and should not be set to whatever, as it is not a volume knob (as it may seem to teenage human ears) lol -- just some info about gain  |
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Gold Member Username: Dustin3Tigard, OR U.S. Post Number: 2778 Registered: Oct-05 | sry that wuz so long, lol. so since its 2v, ur amp should be set to 2v |
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Silver Member Username: ZulkirU.S.A. Post Number: 210 Registered: Dec-05 | how do i know if it is set at 2v? adn that was helpful info thanks..dident know that. |
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Bronze Member Username: FeaielPost Number: 16 Registered: May-06 | It could be something as simple as a cold solder joint or lifted trace. Either way, with 2 yrs of electronicx it should be an easy fix for ya. Are any of the components near the 'charring' look burnt or loose legs such as one of the transistors or caps? May have fried one of them as well. /shrug |
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Bronze Member Username: FeaielPost Number: 17 Registered: May-06 | btw transistors, inductors and transformers smoke like crazy when they go..didn't see a transformer near anything u were talking about in the posted picture..so mosfet maybe?? just a suggestion. BOL |
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Silver Member Username: ZulkirU.S.A. Post Number: 211 Registered: Dec-05 | okay cool...school starts soon n ill just make a stop by my teachers lab and see if he can help me out.he has all the equipmentant and can use it to show his kids students. if i cant fix it iam try that place above. i sent em a mail to see if thay fix orions nd how much. thx back to setign teh gain so i dotn mess up again lol..how do i know if it is set at 2v? |
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Gold Member Username: Dustin3Tigard, OR U.S. Post Number: 2783 Registered: Oct-05 | because you look in your amp manual, or sometimes they mark right on the amp itslef (around the gain) what the min v is and the max v is. the min could be to 1v - 5v. or 200milivolts - 4 v. you just need to find out what the range is. when you know that, you just set where 2v would be in the sequence of numbers |
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Silver Member Username: ZulkirU.S.A. Post Number: 212 Registered: Dec-05 | kids/students**whatever u wana call em |
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Silver Member Username: ZulkirU.S.A. Post Number: 213 Registered: Dec-05 | what about all the other stuff on it? like the master/gain/copy switch or the phase switch or full/12/24 switch |
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Silver Member Username: ZulkirU.S.A. Post Number: 214 Registered: Dec-05 | sry so many questions..dont want this to happen again so i wana know all i can. |
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Gold Member Username: Dustin3Tigard, OR U.S. Post Number: 2785 Registered: Oct-05 | dont worry about it. its best to get it right. never heard of "master" or "copy switch" There is usually a subsonic filter Low pass filter high pass filter gain x-over |
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Silver Member Username: ZulkirU.S.A. Post Number: 215 Registered: Dec-05 | the full(left)/12(middle)/24(right) is on 1 switch and the master(left)/gain(middle)/copy(right) is on another switch..ther is also a hp and lp filter and i have the hp turned off. i dont see a crossover anyplace. phase 0(switch moved left) 180(switch moved right). lol no idea waht that stuff is but i wana know. |
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Gold Member Username: Dustin3Tigard, OR U.S. Post Number: 2787 Registered: Oct-05 | the phase shift should be set to 0 i'm not sure what the other ones are though. your manual will have a good description. |
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Silver Member Username: ZulkirU.S.A. Post Number: 216 Registered: Dec-05 | haha...great..noidea where it is..know if i can get a manual of the net? wass alexited n dident read the book lol...had all the wires ran subs were in hu was great.. then my amp came i slaped it in and thay ran for a few months and well here i am now.. |
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Gold Member Username: Dustin3Tigard, OR U.S. Post Number: 2789 Registered: Oct-05 | lol. yea. i cant find a manual on them online. you can just create a thread on here askin if anyone has the orion, or knows how to set them. you could do a search on google for amp settings or sumthin and see what it comes up with for those ones i dont know |
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Silver Member Username: ZulkirU.S.A. Post Number: 217 Registered: Dec-05 | haha...well thx for all the help. i am sure i will be back here soon to start that thread. wel time to get to bed..cya and thx again for all the help. |
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Gold Member Username: Dustin3Tigard, OR U.S. Post Number: 2791 Registered: Oct-05 | peace |
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Gold Member Username: JuliobSanto DomingoDominican Re... Post Number: 1478 Registered: Dec-05 | hahaha, you should get a PHD bassman hahaha |
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Gold Member Username: Dustin3Tigard, OR U.S. Post Number: 2796 Registered: Oct-05 | LOL, thatsn not the first time someone has told me that :P |
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