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New member Username: Mister_xPost Number: 1 Registered: Jul-06 | So.. My stock alternator is 102amps. im thinking i should get a 200amp alternator for my 4000w amp. But, ive also seen a setup with just a second battery by itself in the trunk... What I have: -102 amp stock alternator -4000 watt amp (less important) -Pioneer Stereo 52x4 -Interior Pioneer Speakers Like I said, just starting my system, need advisments on what to do next... Any help greatly apreciated. |
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New member Username: Mister_xPost Number: 2 Registered: Jul-06 | After reading some other posts i found that getting an alternator would be the next step, but wouldnt the system put too much stress on the battery still. Maybe a second battery with a new alternator? |
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Silver Member Username: Sweet_subsMemphis, Michigan Usa Post Number: 142 Registered: May-06 | you would just be better off to get a ho alternator instead of a betery and get a cap if u get a ho alt. as for the amp what brand are u goin and what kind fo subs do u have |
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New member Username: Mister_xPost Number: 3 Registered: Jul-06 | as of right now i have a lanzar 2ch 4000w amp and 2 alpine 12 type e subs, which i know wont be able to handle very much, but i was looking at lanzar subs (2000w each) that match the amp. -you think the 200 ho alt. would be fine with a lanzar 10 farad cap? |
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Bronze Member Username: Scorpionzero454Post Number: 23 Registered: Jun-06 | for the price that you would pay on a 10 farad cap, i would get a second battery and a new alt, that's what i did, and it worked perfect, no dimming at all |
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Gold Member Username: 54danny54Betsy layne, Kentucky..GO... USA duh Post Number: 2725 Registered: Nov-04 | X...whats ur budget for EVERYTHING? including electrical upgrades? are u lookin for just loud, or clear, or loud n clear? lol |
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New member Username: Mister_xPost Number: 4 Registered: Jul-06 | -probably around $400 or $500. im thinking clean on the inside, bang in the trunk?.. -i called around today and instead of spending my whole budget on 1 alternator, i found a 160 amp for 160$. from what ive read it seems like a good deal, but will it be enough to charge my starter battery and another one in the trunk for my amp? -and if i do get another battery, what would be the best bang for my buck? |
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New member Username: Mister_xPost Number: 5 Registered: Jul-06 | i read some more, lol, i guess i need to buy two new batteries, and they both have to be deep cycle and i need 2 distribution blocks. all running with a 160a alt. and the big 3. if any of that is wrong or you just want to add, please tell me. |
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Gold Member Username: 54danny54Betsy layne, Kentucky..GO... USA duh Post Number: 2729 Registered: Nov-04 | ok...umm can u increase ur budget? u wont need a second battery...just big 3 and alt www.ascendantaudio.com get an assasin look on ebay for a phoenix gold xenon 400.1 amp to power it. look for pioneer for ur head unit infinity for speaks. just plug the speaks to ur head unit for power |
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New member Username: Mister_xPost Number: 6 Registered: Jul-06 | welll... dam, i already bought the 4000 watt amp. and i have a pioneer head unit with matching interior speakers. i just need (2) 2000 watt subs and the best way to power them. - im sorta just just making sure that a 200amp alternator would power the 4000 watt amp in the trunk. but, thanks for the advice on what i shoulda did lol |
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New member Username: Mister_xPost Number: 7 Registered: Jul-06 | jeez, wheres the edit button... sorry, not a 200a alternator, but a 160a alternator with big 3. |
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Silver Member Username: StnorrisEldridge, IA US Post Number: 549 Registered: Apr-06 | can you give a link for the amp? and i think you should go with the 200a alt. |
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Silver Member Username: KillswitchjdPost Number: 236 Registered: Apr-06 | i bet that amp is only 500x2 at 4 ohms, at best. |
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New member Username: Mister_xPost Number: 8 Registered: Jul-06 | http://www.brilliant-electronics.com/car_amplifiers_lanzar_vibe286.htm i think i would at least know what kind of amp i have... |
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Gold Member Username: Chaunb3400Huntsville, Alabama U.S. Post Number: 8005 Registered: Jul-05 | max watts are pointless |
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Silver Member Username: Rick_rossPost Number: 237 Registered: May-06 | do can run that amp on stock alt and battery |
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New member Username: Mister_xPost Number: 9 Registered: Jul-06 | /\ im guessing that says that i can run the amp on stock alt. and battery? alright, fine, im going to run it on stock. |
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Gold Member Username: Killerzracing71Fredericksburg, Virginia United states Post Number: 1014 Registered: Aug-05 | yeah pretty much........ that amp does not do 4000 watts.... n i make me mad when i hear people say they have 10,0000 wattts an all this.... i would sell that amp an atleast get a Hifonics amp, or find something else how much did u pay for that..... put it this way if u looked at sum other company would u have noticed that a 1000x2 amp would cost u thats 2500 contious watts http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=426 i know u might cant afford that (chit i cant) but not realy need to upgrad if u run that lanzar but in the long run i would stil do it.... so when u upgrade its already done..... but for now u can run it no prop....stock |
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Silver Member Username: Usask8er1Appleton, Wisconsin USA Post Number: 332 Registered: Jun-05 | Yeah X not to burst your bubble but when you keep reading around more youll find out lanzar is one of the most over rated amps ever. That thing will never put out 4000 watts unless ran at like 1/2ohm maybe and that thing would overheat instantly. I take it with a 4000 watt amp your trying to get sq. Your better off just upgrading to a real amp and sub combo that has 1000watts rms but it will be a true 1000rms and you wont have to worry about alt and bat. |
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New member Username: Mister_xPost Number: 10 Registered: Jul-06 | are you guys serious? that sucks, they really lie about the power... so when it says 2000 watts x 2 at 4ohms, what does that really mean? |
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Gold Member Username: Dustin3Tigard, Or U.S. Post Number: 2354 Registered: Oct-05 | yes, they do really lie about power. when it says it does 2000 x 2 @ 4 ohms -- it mean that it wont put 2000 into each channel. most likely around 1500 each channel. thats why you need to kno wut amp companies overrate their products and which ones dont. When an amp is CEA certified, that means that its guarenteed to put out that much power. there are lots of companies that overrate their products: hifonics -- 80% overrated= general rule audiobahn lanzar sony boss power acoustic kenwood etc etc etc... |
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Bronze Member Username: Mister_xPost Number: 11 Registered: Jul-06 | well, they're smart, because i bought it. lol kinda knew it was too good to be true. -well, on a lighter note, i hooked everything up today, and they sound pretty dam good, but i havent heard anything THAT good before. well, thanks for all of your input guys, you have helped me out quite a bit. |
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Silver Member Username: KillswitchjdPost Number: 239 Registered: Apr-06 | Lanzar VIBE268 - Lanzar 2 Ch. 2000 Watt Amplifier Our Price: $179.99 Retail Price: $297.99 Save $118.00 Item #: VIBE268 Two Channel Amplifiers 2 x 500 Watts RMS at 4 Ohms 2 x 1000 Watts Max at 4 Ohms 1 x 2000 Watts Max at 4 Ohms Bridged 2 x 800 Watts at 2 Ohms Electronic Crossover Network Bass Boost Circuit Bridgeable at 4 Ohms 2 Ohms Stereo Stable Tri-Mode Capable Gold RCA Inputs Line Outs For Left & Right Channels. Power & Protection LED Indicators Advanced Protection Circuitry Soft Turn On/Off Remote Control Bass Booster Frequency Response: 15 Hz - 35 kHz S/N ratio: 90dB Dimensions: 11.5"W x 2.3"H x 19"L i told you 500x2... |
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Bronze Member Username: Mister_xPost Number: 12 Registered: Jul-06 | Hey, i already took care of it, and btw, i told you i had the 4000 watt VIBE 286 not 268, which is 1000 RMS x 2. i know theres a lot to read, but i know what the amp says, i wont lie to you.. |
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Silver Member Username: N2audioLawrence, Ks USA Post Number: 914 Registered: Mar-04 | actually - if you look at the manual online - the rms specs for the 286 are -- 300x2 at 4 ohms 450x2 at 2 ohms 900x1 bridged Those specs are probably pretty accurate - maybe even a bit conservative. The reason they can pick any number they want for max power is because "max power" isn't defined. If someone tried to call them on it legally they'd just say -- well...with a 17v unlimited current power supply, and with the amp in a cryogenic chamber - it will produce a 4000w 50 hz tone for .01 sec before it bursts into flames - and they'd be right. |
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Bronze Member Username: Mister_xPost Number: 13 Registered: Jul-06 | really? now who looks like the idiot. you win, lol, dam thanks, like i said, too good to be true. |