Why is my RE SE sounding better than my AA Aresneal?
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Silver Member Username: Biggyg9712Post Number: 202 Registered: Sep-05 | i just got my 12 inch aresenal today and hooked it up, it sounds worse and doesnt get as loud as my re se. my setup is: pioneer 770p audiobahn a800t 1.8 cuft box tuned to 34hz and for some reason the aresenal is worse, does anyone no why? |
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Gold Member Username: Chaunb3400Huntsville, Alabama U.S. Post Number: 5505 Registered: Jul-05 | Maybe there not as good??????????????? |
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Gold Member Username: Southern_bassParis, Tennessee U.S. Post Number: 1629 Registered: Dec-05 | lol chauncey..same thing i was thinking |
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Gold Member Username: Chaunb3400Huntsville, Alabama U.S. Post Number: 5508 Registered: Jul-05 | did u have a ported box with the se as well?? |
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Silver Member Username: Biggyg9712Post Number: 205 Registered: Sep-05 | ya, i used the same box for both of them |
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Gold Member Username: Chaunb3400Huntsville, Alabama U.S. Post Number: 5511 Registered: Jul-05 | According to there site ur box is a little small, but not small enough to effect the performance that much. Also they rec. ur port be tuned to 35hz...I guess there just not as good..lol |
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Gold Member Username: SouthernrebelMonroe, Louisiana USA Post Number: 2156 Registered: Mar-04 | Arsenals have a higher Qts than SE's...try a larger box. ~2.25-2.5cuft. |
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Silver Member Username: Baseball1187Columbia, SC Post Number: 579 Registered: Dec-04 | do you have it wired correctly? |
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Bronze Member Username: Teddy21Ann Arbor, MI USA Post Number: 24 Registered: Feb-06 | OH YEAH  |
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Gold Member Username: Chaunb3400Huntsville, Alabama U.S. Post Number: 5517 Registered: Jul-05 | So not building the box to recommended specs will make it louder and sound better..Marshall.. |
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Gold Member Username: BestmankindLos Angeles, CA USA Post Number: 2425 Registered: Oct-05 | mike don't you have the re se xxx? |
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Gold Member Username: BestmankindLos Angeles, CA USA Post Number: 2426 Registered: Oct-05 | why doesn't this bump up????? |
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Gold Member Username: SouthernrebelMonroe, Louisiana USA Post Number: 2162 Registered: Mar-04 | i didnt realize AA recommended 2cuft for that sub. actually...larger boxes tend to peak higher in SPL (in most cases). but when you get a box too big the subs will start to sound muddy. |
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Gold Member Username: Chaunb3400Huntsville, Alabama U.S. Post Number: 5523 Registered: Jul-05 | Ok that explain's it. Because when u recommend a box that big i was thinking to myself, i no it should get louder, but sound better??, But then again i no nothing about building boxes |
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Silver Member Username: Biggyg9712Post Number: 206 Registered: Sep-05 | ya i have the re se xxx, but anyways if anyone wants this sub..im selling it, it has about 10 minutes of use, if u want it just make an offer or email me at greghill9712@yahoo.com and if we can make a deal i can ship it out by tomarrow |
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Bronze Member Username: Lets_talk_soundPost Number: 31 Registered: Dec-05 | how much does a 12" RE SE run?, I think its the SE thats 600 rms. thanks Spencer |
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Gold Member Username: Chaunb3400Huntsville, Alabama U.S. Post Number: 5526 Registered: Jul-05 | Correct |
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Gold Member Username: Tdeaton1021Near Tampa, Florida USA Post Number: 1845 Registered: Sep-04 | hmmm.... i know my avalanche sounded better than my SE... and the arsenal is suposed to sound even beter... |
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Silver Member Username: Baseball1187Columbia, SC Post Number: 580 Registered: Dec-04 | yea, something sounds funny... |
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Silver Member Username: Biggyg9712Post Number: 211 Registered: Sep-05 | ya, i thought it was funny to, i think its just the box that i have it in, thats probly why its not sounding good |
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Gold Member Username: B101Queen City, NC USA Post Number: 1158 Registered: Sep-05 | maybe the Aresneal needs more power to get going? If the box is close to specs, then it should not affect it that bad! |
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Silver Member Username: Biggyg9712Post Number: 212 Registered: Sep-05 | thats what i was thinkin but when i had it at high volumes it was kinda distorting i think so i dont no |
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Bob365 Unregistered guest | Mike, in your last post you say you have the RE SE XXX, what do you mean? SE? XXX? The ported box you have is a little small. The main thing is that you haven't broken in your sub yet. Honestly, if you've played it for 10 minutes or an hour, you haven't broken it it. I've played mine for several hours, and have noticed a distinct change in sound since I installed it. I'm not saying this will for sure change your mind, but it will be a fairer comparison. When you say not as loud. how much quieter is it? If it's almost as loud, I could maybe see it. If it's a lot quieter, then there's something up. |
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Gold Member Username: B101Queen City, NC USA Post Number: 1161 Registered: Sep-05 | how much rms is your amp? & how much rms is the sub? unless RE is better? =D |
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Silver Member Username: Biggyg9712Post Number: 213 Registered: Sep-05 | my amp is 800 rms and the sub is 750 rms, the se is only 600 rms and its getting louder, weird |
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Silver Member Username: Biggyg9712Post Number: 214 Registered: Sep-05 | my sub is an SE but was re-coned with the xxx cone, so therefore the se xxx, and the sub is almost as loud, on my HU, the pioneer 770p, i turn it up to about 42/60, and at that point the re still holds up good but the aresenal kinda distorts |
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Silver Member Username: Rob_brownPost Number: 248 Registered: Jul-04 | I'm thinking that you have the amp wired to 2 ohms since the arsenals only come in dual 4 ohms and your your se may be a dual 2 ohm sub. If you wired the subs the same way then you aren't getting the same ohm load as the se. |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Ct Post Number: 5065 Registered: Dec-04 | I will buy it from you Mike, let me know what you want for it |
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Silver Member Username: Biggyg9712Post Number: 216 Registered: Sep-05 | no, they are both dual 4 ohm, and my amp is only stable at 2 ohms |
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Silver Member Username: Rob_brownPost Number: 251 Registered: Jul-04 | yeah, i see that. i guess the arsenal is just worse? i don't see how that could be though, if it could be used as a sit in for the avalanche. maybe something wasn't put together right, or you need to just let it break in more. |
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Silver Member Username: Biggyg9712Post Number: 217 Registered: Sep-05 | james, if ur interested, add me on AIM, my sn is greghill9712 |
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Silver Member Username: Rob_brownPost Number: 252 Registered: Jul-04 | if you turn it up that loud and it distorts your gain is set wrong. not all subs are the same, that could effect it, but i don't think it would make it less loud. |
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Silver Member Username: Biggyg9712Post Number: 218 Registered: Sep-05 | no, my gain is set right, my HU is 4v and thats what my amp is at |
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Gold Member Username: B101Queen City, NC USA Post Number: 1166 Registered: Sep-05 | ?? question 2 dual 4ohm subs wired to what>? what ohm load ? dual 4s can be wired to either 1 or 4ohm loads; thats without creating any voltage dividers. cause u said u have a 2ohm amplifier. |
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Silver Member Username: Biggyg9712Post Number: 219 Registered: Sep-05 | ya, i have a dvc 4 ohm se, and a dvc 4 ohm aresenal, i only have 1 sub hooked upt o the amp, not 2 |
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Gold Member Username: Chaunb3400Huntsville, Alabama U.S. Post Number: 5527 Registered: Jul-05 | I think he only has 1 dvc 4ohm sub |
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Gold Member Username: B101Queen City, NC USA Post Number: 1169 Registered: Sep-05 | ohh, lol, sorry... Try a Treo TSX or SSI 15 |
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Silver Member Username: Biggyg9712Post Number: 221 Registered: Sep-05 | i no, i feel so dumb, there was this SSI 12 on ebay, wnet for so cheap, i forgot all about it look: http://cgi.ebay.com/12-Treo-Engineering-SSi-Subwoofer-750-watts-RMS_W0QQitemZ586 2715354QQcategoryZ18803QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
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Gold Member Username: Chaunb3400Huntsville, Alabama U.S. Post Number: 5536 Registered: Jul-05 | Thats almost as bad as a Diamond Audio D9 for $98 with free shipping.  |
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Silver Member Username: Biggyg9712Post Number: 222 Registered: Sep-05 | james, if ur interested int eh sub, it will be like around $200 shipped |
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Gold Member Username: Tdeaton1021Near Tampa, Florida USA Post Number: 1851 Registered: Sep-04 | i'd bet 100$ that an arsenal without something wrong with it wont distort with 800w rms if its clean power. even at 1000w.... |
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Gold Member Username: B101Queen City, NC USA Post Number: 1172 Registered: Sep-05 | something is wrong somewhere, 800 rms is alot of power. |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Ct Post Number: 5069 Registered: Dec-04 | $200 shipped for a sub you think there is something wrong with it? ummmmmmmmmmm I don't think so man. Plus you bought it for $160. you plan on markingup a possibly broken sub? |
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Silver Member Username: Matt12490Benicia, California Post Number: 401 Registered: May-05 | maybe its just not broken in yet... just a thought |
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Silver Member Username: Biggyg9712Post Number: 225 Registered: Sep-05 | it didnt really distort, just kinda lost some sound quality i think, i dont really now, i would call myself a rookie at car audio, but what i do no for a fact, is in the same box powered by the same amp and the same song at the same volume, the se was better hands down |
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Gold Member Username: B101Queen City, NC USA Post Number: 1176 Registered: Sep-05 | ^^^he held all variables constant... |
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Silver Member Username: Rob_brownPost Number: 253 Registered: Jul-04 | you can't only try one song man, different notes hit different on different subs, try other songs to see if it's still not as loud |
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Silver Member Username: SixFlint, MI U.S.A. Post Number: 371 Registered: Oct-05 | ...Break it in. period. Give it a good 200 wrms for like 4 hour intervals. When, I got my 15" arsez, I thought they were barely louder than my single 15" ava... 3 days of playing later, WoW. Huge Difference. I'm soon to be getting a Orion 2500D and I know they'll love every bit of 1000-1200 rms. |
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Silver Member Username: SixFlint, MI U.S.A. Post Number: 373 Registered: Oct-05 | WTF BUMP NOW! |
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Gold Member Username: Chaunb3400Huntsville, Alabama U.S. Post Number: 5598 Registered: Jul-05 | Well when you think about it, its all about what you like to listen to, if you don't like the sound of the arsez get rid of them.. |
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Silver Member Username: Biggyg9712Post Number: 227 Registered: Sep-05 | ya i dont like the sound, thats why im selling it, im asking $200 shipped if anyone wants it, and i dont think there is anyhitng wrong with the sub, its not broken in i know that for a fact, besides that the sub is fine, and i payed $220 + $22.50 for shipping, that $242.50 not $160, there is nothing wrong with it i just like my re se xxx better and have no need for this sub now |
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