Glasswolf or Jonathan / Rearfill Selection out of these ?
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 3094 Registered: Feb-05 | I am running a CDT HD62 component set up front and im looking to add rearfill speakers to the rear of a 98 Toyota Camry replacing the stock 6x9's. They will be powered of my premier 860 HU. I have narrowed it down to these. Please help me choose the one that will work best in this car and application. http://www.crutchfield.com/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=52000&I=1086012I http://www.crutchfield.com/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=52000&I=107DB650 http://www.crutchfield.com/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=52000&I=500SPS170A http://www.cdtaudio.com/classislimcoaxial.htm Im leaning toward the CDT -6EX's and Infinity Referance 6.5's but ill take your recommendations into consideration also. |
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 3096 Registered: Feb-05 | James says i could also use my ppi a600.2 and run 150 watt rms to all 4 speakers if i run it in stereo at 300 x 2 @ 2 ohms / If so what do you all think about this set also in comparsion to the others. Only drawback is i wont be able to fade in and out i think and 150 watts rms is alot for rearfill in order to blend in. http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_components.php?comp_id=119 http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_components.php?comp_id=119 http://cgi.ebay.com/JL-AUDIO-XR-650-XR650-cxi-COAXIAL-6-5-SPEAKERS-NEW-05_W0QQit emZ5867279332QQcategoryZ18799QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/JL-AUDIO-VR650-CXi-COAXIAL-6-5-2-WAY-SPEAKERS-NEW-05_W0QQite mZ5866931034QQcategoryZ18799QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
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Platinum Member Username: GlasswolfWisteria, Lane USA Post Number: 11129 Registered: Dec-03 | I'd stick with CDT for rears, and if you do amp them, use a 4 chanel amp, and bridge it for the rear two channels to run them in mono (in series) to help maintain your stereo imaging in front. |
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Gold Member Username: CarguyPost Number: 5319 Registered: Nov-04 | If you want rearfills and good imaging, use Orion 250 G4 amp. That amp supports bandpass mode, great for your application. |
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 3102 Registered: Feb-05 | These are the amps and speakers and subs i have to play with so lets put a system toghether. PPI PCX 2200 / 200 x 2 @ 4 ohm, 400 x 2 @ 2 ohm, 800 x 1 @ 4 ohms bridged PPI a600.2 / 150 x 2 @ 4 ohm, 300 x 2 @ 2 ohm, 600 x 1 @ 4 ohms bridged PPI a300 / 75 x 2 @ 4 ohm, 150 x 2 @ 2 ohm, 300 x 1 @ 4 ohms bridged CDT HD62 is my component set - 150-180 rms ID MAX 12 is my subwoofer - 200-1000 rms |
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Bronze Member Username: LewassBloomfield Hills, MI USA Post Number: 60 Registered: Jan-06 | The fun part...  |
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 3104 Registered: Feb-05 | yeah i cant wait to put this toghether. Oh and my HU is a Pioneer Premier 860. I have alot of respect for jonathan,glasswolf,isaac,james etc.. knowledge on caraudio so i tend to double check with them before the fun part |
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 3105 Registered: Feb-05 | glass or jonathan what whould you use for this setup. Which amp to which speaker, sub, etc.. the fun part |
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 3107 Registered: Feb-05 | let me know guys |
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 3111 Registered: Feb-05 | Ive decided to use the ppi a600.2 on the IDMAX 12 and send it 600 watts rms @ 4 ohm since i hear this sub is efficiant off this much power. Ill run my ppi pcx 2200 to my CDT HD62 at 200 x 2 @ 4 ohm Ill use my HU to run the CDT rearfills How does that look. Also im not sure if i want to go sealed or ported on the ID MAX 12 if its going in a trunk of a toyota camry. |
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Gold Member Username: CarguyPost Number: 5320 Registered: Nov-04 | MO, I'd use PPI 600.2 for your CDT and PCX2200 on the sub. It's a better amp for full range. For rear fill, I wouldn't use the HU. What you really need is a bandpass xover. Orion 250G4 offers that. If you pass frequencies above 1K, it'll distort the imaging. Best to pass 150Hz - 1K to the rears. |
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 3112 Registered: Feb-05 | Isaac, the CDT-HD62 set is rated at Power Handling: 180 watt RMS @ 100Hz High Pass The PPI PCX 2200 is made to run 200 x 2 @ 4 ohm and be clean power and a better match dont you think ? The ID MAX 12 is a very touchy sub. Very efficiant and 600 rms is more then enough for this sub. I emailed CDT and they said that the CDT rearfill whould be fine off the HU and work well. Besides you know how hard it is to find the 250 g4 |
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Gold Member Username: CarguyPost Number: 5321 Registered: Nov-04 | PPI 600.2 is 150w x 2 @ 4ohms. From my experience, there aren't too many amps that can sound as clean (Zapco certainly can). Since human ears can't tell much difference when it comes to low frequencies, PCX2200 should be better for sub application. That is how I would install them. If you can't find G4 amps, then pick up an active xover. It will allow bandpass operation. If you care a lot about imaging, you wouldn't want to send full range to rear fills from HU. |
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 3114 Registered: Feb-05 | Why whould i sent full range to rearfills of the HU> I have crossover controls for the rearfill of my Pioneer Premier 860 and i will set it to 12db @ 150hz or so. I have a crossover control for the front,rear,sub on this HU. Also the PPI 600.2 is 150 x 2 @ 4 ohm / 300 x 2 @ 2 ohm / and 600 x 1 @ 4 ohm bridged and run the crossover from the HU at 18db @ 80hz for the ID MAX 12 sealed which will not even need a subsonic filter. |
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 3115 Registered: Feb-05 | Why whould i send full range to rearfills off the HU> I have crossover controls for the rearfill off my Pioneer Premier 860 and i will set it to 12db @ 150hz or so. I have a crossover control for the front,rear,sub on this HU. Also the PPI 600.2 is 150 x 2 @ 4 ohm / 300 x 2 @ 2 ohm / and 600 x 1 @ 4 ohm bridged and run the crossover from the HU at 18db @ 80hz for the ID MAX 12 sealed which will not even need a subsonic filter. |
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 3139 Registered: Feb-05 | Ive decided on the CDT CL-6EX for the rearfill to replace the 6x9's and will be powered off my Pioneer Premier and it will be crossed over at 12db @ 100hz or whatever sounds best off the HU. |
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Bronze Member Username: __nick__Post Number: 15 Registered: Feb-06 | will my 4 alpine type s speakers be good enough for two alpine type r 12"? will i be able to hear the music still or are they not good enough? |
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 3145 Registered: Feb-05 | EF-61NEOX is the set i ordered thru a CDT dealer. That is the new coaxials CDT sells. Alteraudio this is a great set from what i hear for rearfill. Ill make a post once i set up the system. |
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