Hmmm......
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Silver Member Username: ThumperRichmond, VA U.S.A Post Number: 101 Registered: Apr-05 | ok, im upgrading my system. Money Limit is around 600$ 2 Subwoofers-Alpine type R- SWR-1242D (4ohm+4ohm wired parallel= 1ohm ..Right?) Amplifier- audiobahn- A1300HCT Capacitor- PC5C (5 farad, a lot, i know) and all the little wires to go with it. What do ya think? |
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Silver Member Username: SolacedagonyNew Jersey US Post Number: 537 Registered: Oct-04 | To wire those subs in parallel and get 1 ohm, they'll both have to be DVC subs. If they were both single 4 ohm in parallel, you'd only get 2 ohms. For examples: http://mobile.jlaudio.com/support_pages.php?page_id=145 Also the capacitor is useless. |
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Gold Member Username: CarguyPost Number: 4799 Registered: Nov-04 | What about HO alternator? Your stock certainly won't handle 1300HCT amp. |
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Gold Member Username: Kd7nfrMontpelier, ID United States Post Number: 1090 Registered: Apr-05 | Isaac: it's Audiobahn, and he's getting a cap man. He'll outbump all of us, and retain his stock electrical system while doing it! Ice: I'd go with a different amp, Audiobahn is crap. I'd save up and get an MTX or something of the alike (in the "price range"). And you'll definantly need a HO alternator. This way you can upgrade when you do (trust me, you will). |
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Silver Member Username: ThumperRichmond, VA U.S.A Post Number: 103 Registered: Apr-05 | hmmm..... HO alternator is definetly a no go. I dont have the money to get the alternator and i dont have to time to put it in. Are sure a capacitor wont help. |
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Gold Member Username: Basshead86Ocala, FL USA Post Number: 2441 Registered: Aug-05 | science doesn't tell us how smart we are, but shows us how little we know. sound familiar? when they say you need a HO alt.......you need one....it is like trying to run your whole house off of a generator that can handle the strain of your electrical appliances, but then you go out and buy another refridgerator and hook that baby up to it, and wonder why your generator is left in smoke. stock alts are NOT designed to handle the extra current draw of a high-powered car audio amplifier. it's as simple as that. if you don't have the money, then you need to save up for one. and i would stay away from audiobahn as a whole.  |
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Silver Member Username: ThumperRichmond, VA U.S.A Post Number: 104 Registered: Apr-05 | Yeah, ill probably go with a mtx amp,but i need some reasonably priced subs, and i guess ill save up for an alternator. but i want subs that you can feel, Im not to worried about SQ I just want something that flippin hits. Any suggestions? |
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Silver Member Username: ThumperRichmond, VA U.S.A Post Number: 106 Registered: Apr-05 | bumb.......... Name a Good Quality 12" or 10" for about $200-$300 for both on ebay What about Rockford? P312D4 |
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Silver Member Username: ThumperRichmond, VA U.S.A Post Number: 107 Registered: Apr-05 | I just read the specs on the rockford T1 punch subwoofer, and it sounds nice and its not that expensive. What do you guys think? T110D4 T112D4 T115D4 |
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Bronze Member Username: JakeyplaysbassPost Number: 96 Registered: Jul-05 | i would not get anything rockford fosgate(new stuff). if money for an alt. is a problem go with just one sub with 500-700 watts. it should work fine with ur alt. and it saves money. one 15" type r with 500-600 watts will be loud (spl) one 12" type r will sound better and still be kinda loud other subs to look at(all less than 700rms) re se 2 re re 2 image dynamics idq |
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Silver Member Username: ThumperRichmond, VA U.S.A Post Number: 109 Registered: Apr-05 | Yeah, i guess your right. It's better than nothing. The only problem with the alternator is..... Its to expensive for my girlfriends 95 honda, and it would be a pain in the ace to try and put her alternator on because in near the bottom. On my 97 taurus, it wouldnt be a problem because the alternator is sitting right on top, but i dont have a cd player in my car, and the f*ckers at circuit city said they would have to take all the speakers wires out and run them in a different way, something about the way ford wires the speakers, and they would have to get the harness kit for the cd player, (which is sadly true). So i dont know what the h$ll i want to do. Either way this sh!ts just not in my budget. SOooo. a low budget system, How about 800 watts or even a 1000 watts, you think that would be to much? If so ill go with the alpine type r, but ill probly get 2 subs (alpine) only cause two looks better than one, it wouldnt feel right have only one sub... i dunno i can deal with one. Im not trying to be stubborn, i know i cant defy the laws of science, I just want something nice and loud and thumpin. But if i absolutely need an alternator then ill go with small system for now, besides you guys are the experts and have probably already been through this crap...over and over... |
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Silver Member Username: ThumperRichmond, VA U.S.A Post Number: 110 Registered: Apr-05 | Yeah, i guess your right. It's better than nothing. The only problem with the alternator is..... Its to expensive for my girlfriends 95 honda, and it would be a pain in the ace to try and put her alternator on because in near the bottom. On my 97 taurus, it wouldnt be a problem because the alternator is sitting right on top, but i dont have a cd player in my car, and the f*ckers at circuit city said they would have to take all the speakers wires out and run them in a different way, something about the way ford wires the speakers, and they would have to get the harness kit for the cd player, (which is sadly true). So i dont know what the h$ll i want to do. Either way this sh!ts just not in my budget. SOooo. a low budget system, How about 800 watts or even a 1000 watts, you think that would be to much? If so ill go with the alpine type r, but ill probly get 2 subs (alpine) only cause two looks better than one, it wouldnt feel right to have only one sub... i dunno i can deal with one. Im not trying to be stubborn, i know i cant defy the laws of science, I just want something nice and loud and thumpin. But if i absolutely need an alternator then ill go with small system for now, besides you guys are the experts and have probably already been through this crap...over and over... |
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Silver Member Username: ThumperRichmond, VA U.S.A Post Number: 111 Registered: Apr-05 | oops.....hehe |
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Gold Member Username: RovinTrinidad & T... Post Number: 1547 Registered: Jul-05 | I would back u up on getting 2 12s type R cause i'm also gonna do that -lol Buy that 1200.1 orion amp on Soundomain - $375 with FREE s/h currently the best deal in town !........  |
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Silver Member Username: JakeyplaysbassPost Number: 111 Registered: Jul-05 | your system isnt going to sound "right" unless u get a new HU. Make sure you go somewhere other than best buy or CC when you want to get it looked at because most of the people there have no clue what they are talking about. |
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Silver Member Username: Robert_dMIA, FL USA Post Number: 262 Registered: Sep-05 | theres nothing wrong with one subwoofer setups ... i personally like them more i would get a kicker kx600.1 and an eclipse TI there rated at 750 rms but i heard around that they get louder than a SX i got 600@2ohms my stock alt handles it fine but i cant be blastin it at idle or it will drop to mid - high 11's (as in volts) nothin i can really do the car is my grandmas after i get my sis's and trade it in i cant do anything else then universal upgrades =( |
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Silver Member Username: Robert_dMIA, FL USA Post Number: 263 Registered: Sep-05 | damn.... 375 wit free ship ... thats how much the kickers and xenons run at on ebay (after shipping) just curious i dont know to much bout orions but how are they ( i know ther better than kciker and xenon) |
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Gold Member Username: SouthernrebelMonroe, Louisiana USA Post Number: 1358 Registered: Mar-04 | actually, the orion 1200d is on par w/ the kicker kx1200.1 oh, and there is a guy over on the carsound.com forum sellin 4 1200d's for $275 shipped (thats an insane deal!) |
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Silver Member Username: ThumperRichmond, VA U.S.A Post Number: 112 Registered: Apr-05 | whats his name? |
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Silver Member Username: ThumperRichmond, VA U.S.A Post Number: 113 Registered: Apr-05 | Yay or Nay http://cgi.ebay.com/Alpine-TYPE-R-SWR-1522D-15-Dual-2-Ohm-SUB-woofer-NEW_W0QQite mZ5821510801QQcategoryZ18804QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
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Gold Member Username: SouthernrebelMonroe, Louisiana USA Post Number: 1361 Registered: Mar-04 | ^ 1200d's for $275 |
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Silver Member Username: ThumperRichmond, VA U.S.A Post Number: 114 Registered: Apr-05 | i cant get in that site, my school filter through the server is blocking it, ill check out when i get home. |
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Silver Member Username: ThumperRichmond, VA U.S.A Post Number: 115 Registered: Apr-05 | OK< if i buy the 15" alpine type r 2ohm DVC, i can wire it 1 ohm, to an amp that is 1 ohm stable, and i only need 750-800 watts. OR< Buy the 15" type r 4ohm DVC, i can wire it 2ohm, to an amp that puts out 750 to 800 watts at 2ohms! Yep, lets go amp searching. Do you guys think i should get a cap for this setup, or do you think it will put more stress an the alternator? |
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Silver Member Username: ThumperRichmond, VA U.S.A Post Number: 116 Registered: Apr-05 | WTF, Orion H2 10" for less the 200 on ebay, that doesnt sound right... http://cgi.ebay.com/ORION-H2-10-4-10-SUBWOOFER-CAR-SUB-WOOFER-HCCA-2500W_W0QQite mZ5819609809QQcategoryZ3291QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
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Gold Member Username: SouthernrebelMonroe, Louisiana USA Post Number: 1362 Registered: Mar-04 | sounddomain.com is selling the H2 10's for $195 shipped w/ warranty. 12's are $230 15's are $265 |
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Silver Member Username: ThumperRichmond, VA U.S.A Post Number: 117 Registered: Apr-05 | i wonder how they sound, My friend has Orions, hes glued to em, he thinks they are the best in the world.....there nice, but ill beat him one day. IF i get the 15" type r, and lets say i listen to rap most the time and Metal & Rock occasionally, what type of enclosure should i get. PORTED OR SEALED? Sealed is easier, becuase im definetly going to make the box on my own. but i never have built a ported box, but ive read up a lot on it. |
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Gold Member Username: RovinTrinidad & T... Post Number: 1553 Registered: Jul-05 | 2 12s type R = 1000wrms & would be louder & cleaner sounding than 1 15" . + price of 2 12s is cheaper than 1 15" . Powered by the Orion 1200 . Thats what i would do if it were me ...  |
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Bronze Member Username: Thugginpali96Post Number: 20 Registered: Oct-05 | Hey man look, just search ebay. i got my system all off ebay and i ain't dissappointed at all. All that sh!t about don't trust ebay, ebay is bullsh!t. read the feedback comments and you can always get your money back if you go through paypal. I got 2 type r 12's the 2005 model for 230 shipped!!! I also bought a hifonics 1500 watt mono amp for 262 with a free amp kit which was garbage!!. shouldnt have bought taht one you can easily get one for 250 and save yourself the 10 dollars they charged me on a cheap @ss 4 gauge kit. Anyways... i bought my cap from the flea market for 72 bucks ( a power acousic 3 farad digital capacitor) and purchased a 4 gauge rockford fosgate power kit for like 35 bucks shipped. There you go, you have your 600 dollar system and let me tell you, my sh!t BANGS. i have the subs hooked up to half an ohm right now lol i knwo its gonna mess up my amp but i'm trying to get 2 4 ohm type r's. Good luck |
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Silver Member Username: ThumperRichmond, VA U.S.A Post Number: 118 Registered: Apr-05 | thanks man, im a huge ebay user, i trust ebay, you just have to know who your buying from, The big Audio sellers on ebay are people like; Electic_mart, caraudiodeals, Thedeepdiscount, www-sonicelectronics-www, hifisoundconnections, etc. If you buy things off ebay, you just have to read all the print. I trust Electic_mart the most only because i bought my first system from them, subs, amp and wires, and the shipped it real fast, and everything was 2005 model, brand new, and in originial package and everything. But 2 12"s sounds good. BUT!!! considering the rap/rock genre of music i listen to, should i go ported or sealed. I have read up on it, a lot, but i want the forums opinion, im leaning more on ported, only cause i want the deep loud bass notes. My girlfriends little 60 amp alternator in the 95 civic lx, is not going to hold out to long, I probably kill it with the first bass note, but then i can get her dad to buy a high output alternator, or something to feed my hungry desire to turn her shameful ricer into a portable bass pounding jukebox(hehe) |
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Gold Member Username: RovinTrinidad & T... Post Number: 1623 Registered: Jul-05 | I like ported more ..... |
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Silver Member Username: ThumperRichmond, VA U.S.A Post Number: 121 Registered: Apr-05 | (2) SWR-1242D = 240.54 shipped (1) Orion 1200D= 367.99 shipped there goes 600 dollars can we find a lower priced amp while staying in the decent brands?? |
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Silver Member Username: ThumperRichmond, VA U.S.A Post Number: 122 Registered: Apr-05 | Hifonics 1000 watt amp for $197.00 shipped http://cgi.ebay.com/HIFONICS-TX1005D-TITAN-CLASS-D-AMP-1000-WATT-BRAND-NEW_W0QQi temZ5822120868QQcategoryZ18797QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Hifonics, yes....no? |
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Gold Member Username: RovinTrinidad & T... Post Number: 1625 Registered: Jul-05 | NO ! if u are getting those Rs then don't screw it up with a underrated amp like that |
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Silver Member Username: ThumperRichmond, VA U.S.A Post Number: 123 Registered: Apr-05 | haha, IM SORRY. ::gunshot:: ok fine, ill just go with one 15 type r, and a nice amp. |
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Gold Member Username: RovinTrinidad & T... Post Number: 1627 Registered: Jul-05 | one 15 type r - u could run that really sweet with a matching Alpine MRD M1005D |
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Silver Member Username: ThumperRichmond, VA U.S.A Post Number: 124 Registered: Apr-05 | That is a good match. Man my head is spinning from all this mismatching. I think i might just go with something smaller. Like....two 12" type s. 300 watts rms/900 max. Then get a nice 600 watt amp, and that should be well within my price range, and within my girlfriend's car's power limits. I can get two type s's off ebay for 110 plus shipping. |
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Gold Member Username: RovinTrinidad & T... Post Number: 1637 Registered: Jul-05 | "Man my head is spinning from all this mismatching" - that happens to all of us trying to pick something out .... |
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Silver Member Username: ThumperRichmond, VA U.S.A Post Number: 125 Registered: Apr-05 | h3ll yeah!, ill definetly get the Orion 1200D you were talking about, i found it on ebay for 285 with free shipping. Hey, rovin, does this look like the right amp? http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Orion-1200d-Amplifiers-D2400-WCC-FREE-SHIPPING_W0QQitemZ 5822774193QQcategoryZ18797QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
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Silver Member Username: ThumperRichmond, VA U.S.A Post Number: 126 Registered: Apr-05 | hold on.... that isnt the orion 1200d. The box says west coast customs? |
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Gold Member Username: RovinTrinidad & T... Post Number: 1665 Registered: Jul-05 | Looks like it - man that is a sweet azz deal . wish that deal was around about 6wks back when i ordered my MB Quart raa1000 - i could have stepped up to a pair a RE SE 12s ...dammit ! - lol I'm now betting that u are now not going with any "econo/low wattage" type S subs again . That amp is said to be underrated so u can choose out some 600wrms 4ohm DVC subs now or even those 12" type R will rock pretty hard ...... |
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Gold Member Username: RovinTrinidad & T... Post Number: 1666 Registered: Jul-05 | then again u better call them up & find out if its d same original Orion 1200D current model in a custom order West Coast casing ...... |
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Silver Member Username: ThumperRichmond, VA U.S.A Post Number: 128 Registered: Apr-05 | yeah, ill stick with the two type R's. I can get both of those for 220. |
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Silver Member Username: ThumperRichmond, VA U.S.A Post Number: 129 Registered: Apr-05 | hehe,I should just get the RE SX on ebay for 240. That would be nice, but ill just stick with the Two type r's, and the orion 1200d, which will be almost be 600 dollars. Thanks for helping, ill be sure to post some pics when it comes in and i get it all hooked up. |
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Gold Member Username: RovinTrinidad & T... Post Number: 1669 Registered: Jul-05 | "but ill just stick with the Two type r's, and the orion 1200d"..-..thats what i would do ..... |
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ranger212's Unregistered guest | Do u guys think 2 phoenix gold 350 rms DVC subs powered by a clarion 4oo watt peak amp would require a HO alternator like u was talkin about? |
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ranger212s Unregistered guest | oh btw i also have a mobile spec 1 farad 20v surge cap with 4 guage power cable |
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Gold Member Username: RovinTrinidad & T... Post Number: 1678 Registered: Jul-05 | Clarion is know for their HU & not amps - get a better brand .... |
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Silver Member Username: ThumperRichmond, VA U.S.A Post Number: 133 Registered: Apr-05 | so rovin, when would you use a capacitor? Cause i dont want to buy one if i dont need one. |
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Silver Member Username: ThumperRichmond, VA U.S.A Post Number: 137 Registered: Apr-05 | nevermind, theres about 5 other threads on capacitors now..... and probly a million in the archives |
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