don't know yet, maybe ebay cause they aren't made anymore. but seems like a great hu. budget is around or up to $400. i have the alpine 9835 right now. its just i want to try something different and new...
i would personally go with the newew, less blinged-out p-860mp. i own a p-8600mp, and it is the best HU i have ever used, and most of my friends reall enjoy it(the display and how it sounds and all of its functions)