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Bronze Member Username: CaraudioPost Number: 35 Registered: Sep-05 | So i have to lanzars right there 4 Ohms per coil thats a 8ohm sub am i correct? Now what should i get a 2ohm or a 4ohm amp? Also why is it most amps give out more rms wattage at 2ohms then at 4ohms? Then there are few that give out more rms wats at 4ohm then at 2ohm whats the logic behidn that:S? Like here is what it says at 2ohms it will put out 500rms and 1000 max but at 8ohms it puts out the same so it gets confusing http://www.lanzar.com/manuals/HRW124D.pdf Then thers the 1ohm and 4ohm sub http://www.lanzar.com/manuals/OPTI1222D.pdf Also just using lanzar as an example also because i have the 124's so please dont hate there not as bad as people say and even better for the price i got them at. THANKS! |
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Bronze Member Username: CaraudioPost Number: 36 Registered: Sep-05 | Oh and look at this http://www.lanzar.com/itempage.aspMODEL=VIBE1500D Whats the difference between 2ohm and 4ohm :S? and then look at this one http://www.lanzar.com/itempage.asp?MODEL=VIBE218 http://www.lanzar.com/itempage.aspMODEL=VIBE1800D Like whats up with that it gets confusing when buying an amp what do you look at do you look at the ohms or do you just get the amp with most RMS going 2 channel or mono? Also is it better to get a mono channel amp for 2 subs or a 2 channel people also say a 2 channel amp can turn into a 4 channel and a mono is usually best for a single set of SUBS gives out more juice:S? |
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Bronze Member Username: CaraudioPost Number: 37 Registered: Sep-05 | the guy i got my viberant lanzar amp which is 300RMS 600watt max too 2channel amp i asked him for an upgrade probably extra 15 - 20 bucks to a vibe 258 or a 268 from a 248 any one?? http://www.lanzar.com/itempage.asp?model=VIBE268 around 30 bucks more or http://www.lanzar.com/itempage.asp?model=VIBE258 around 60 bucks more or keep the one i have this http://www.lanzar.com/itempage.asp?model=VIBE248 |
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Silver Member Username: Kd7nfrMontpelier, ID United States Post Number: 948 Registered: Apr-05 | Class D amp. You look at your voice coil setup. You want an amp that will give you the most power for your subs. With my Eclipses, each one is dual 4 ohm voice coils. One sub can be wired for 2 or 4 ohm. Two of them can be wired for 1,2,4, or 8 ohms. What's your voice coil setup, and how many subs? Sorry, I'm not sober, or I'd be able to help you further :P. |
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Silver Member Username: James_gTN Post Number: 272 Registered: Jul-05 | How do you wire a 4 ohm DVC sub so that it's 4 ohms? How do you wire two of them at 2 ohms? I'm either missing something here or you are really drunk. |
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Silver Member Username: James_gTN Post Number: 273 Registered: Jul-05 | CARAUDIO, If your subs are 4 ohm DVC, you need a mono amp that gives you the proper RMS output for your subs at 1 ohm or 4 ohms. If you have SVC subs, you need a mono amp that gives you the proper RMS output at 2 ohms. |
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Bronze Member Username: CaraudioPost Number: 38 Registered: Sep-05 | I HAVE 124D'S LANZAR HERTIAGE 500RMS 4OHM DUAL VOICE COIL SUBS CHECK THE SITE FOR FURTHER SPECS THANKS. |
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Bronze Member Username: CaraudioPost Number: 39 Registered: Sep-05 | I HAVE 124D'S LANZAR HERTIAGE 500RMS 4OHM DUAL VOICE COIL SUBS CHECK THE SITE FOR FURTHER SPECS THANKS. Sorry for the caps and all so im looking to upgrade i dont konw depends on how much the guy offers the amp to me for ill consider upgrading to a 258 or a 268 and i wont be spending more then about 30 bucks. |
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Silver Member Username: FandimReno, Nevada United State... Post Number: 239 Registered: Jun-05 | He could get a 2 channel and bridge it at 4 ohms. |
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Bronze Member Username: CaraudioPost Number: 40 Registered: Sep-05 | is it better to bridge an amp or to get one to use straight up like the Lanzar Vibe 248,258 and 268 since at 4ohms there all 300rms+ and at 2ohms there less. ?? |
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Bronze Member Username: CaraudioPost Number: 42 Registered: Sep-05 | Also why is it that at 2ohms its 800rms and at 4ohms its 500 rms watts? thats 1600RMS watts to 1000rms watts or is it that for ever 2 ohms its a certain ammount of rms watts i dont get that. |
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Silver Member Username: James_gTN Post Number: 276 Registered: Jul-05 | Seth, Yeah, but I don't see any point in doing that. In my opinion, it's always best to use the more efficient Class D mono amps for subs. The THD will be higher, but it isn't really noticeable with subs. I just can't see using an A/B amp for subs unless it's an ultimate SQ system. |
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Silver Member Username: James_gTN Post Number: 277 Registered: Jul-05 | CARAUDIO, Your best bet is to get a Class D mono amp with an output of 1000w-1200w RMS at 1 ohm or 4 ohms. It will probably be much cheaper to go with a mono amp that gives that output at 1 ohm. |
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Bronze Member Username: CaraudioPost Number: 44 Registered: Sep-05 | so what would u say keep the 248 or grab 258 or a 268 thoes are my only choises! |
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Bronze Member Username: CaraudioPost Number: 45 Registered: Sep-05 | BUMP! |
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Silver Member Username: Kd7nfrMontpelier, ID United States Post Number: 968 Registered: Apr-05 | Sorry man... I was no where near sober that night of the last post... And my computer died a couple days ago, and I'm digging through 1,600 emails from this forum... And sorry, don't have time to look at those specs, can you post the specs for all three different amps? Thanks man... (busy as f*ck) |
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Silver Member Username: CaraudioPost Number: 102 Registered: Sep-05 | k 248 2 x 300 Watts RMS at 4 Ohms 2 x 600 Watts Max at 4 Ohms 1 x 1200 Watts Max at 4 Ohms Bridged 2 x 500 Watts at 2 Ohms RMS 258 2 x 400 Watts RMS at 4 Ohms 2 x 800 Watts Max at 4 Ohms 1 x 1600 Watts Max at 4 Ohms Bridged 2 x 650 Watts at 2 Ohms RMS Now a lanzar user said my 248 is a great match if i run it at 2ohms it will run at 500RMS which my lanzar subs are RMS rated as now he is just going to help me finish setting me settings and stuff and that would be good but if i could upgradte the amp for an next 40 bucks should i? He said no but any one else? Also it gets really hot any fans you guys reccomend? i dont want to take a chance. |
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Silver Member Username: CaraudioPost Number: 103 Registered: Sep-05 | k 248 2 x 300 Watts RMS at 4 Ohms 2 x 600 Watts Max at 4 Ohms 1 x 1200 Watts Max at 4 Ohms Bridged 2 x 500 Watts at 2 Ohms RMS 258 2 x 400 Watts RMS at 4 Ohms 2 x 800 Watts Max at 4 Ohms 1 x 1600 Watts Max at 4 Ohms Bridged 2 x 650 Watts at 2 Ohms RMS Now a lanzar user said my 248 is a great match if i run it at 2ohms it will run at 500RMS which my lanzar subs are RMS rated as now he is just going to help me finish setting me settings and stuff and that would be good but if i could upgradte the amp for an next 40 bucks should i? He said no but any one else? Also it gets really hot any fans you guys reccomend? i dont want to take a chance. |
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Bronze Member Username: LanzarchampBakersfield, California United States Post Number: 97 Registered: Sep-05 | keep the 248 or get a monoblock 1ohm stable amp 1000 watts rms, because you dont want to put more than 500 rms to each sub |
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Silver Member Username: CaraudioPost Number: 104 Registered: Sep-05 | ill keep it. Looking at the setup how does it look better then what you expected:S? How do i keep it cool what fan would you reccomend? |
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Silver Member Username: Kd7nfrMontpelier, ID United States Post Number: 970 Registered: Apr-05 | CarAudio: honestly, if I were just going for a "budget" system, I'd upgrade to the 258. Just me though. It won't overheat as quick (check your gain settings), and I like to give the sub more power than it needs, so I KNOW the amp isn't working too hard. |
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Silver Member Username: CaraudioPost Number: 107 Registered: Sep-05 | Mmm ill see depends on how much more it would cost but Eddie what do you say extra 150RMS watts? |
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Silver Member Username: CaraudioPost Number: 108 Registered: Sep-05 | Tne amp may not be working to hard but how does that effect the subs? I already have the bass boost 18Db controll thing also the settings arent at max but would that over due anything else? |
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Silver Member Username: Kd7nfrMontpelier, ID United States Post Number: 972 Registered: Apr-05 | It's just my .02, I highly doubt you're going to see much of a difference. And I'd upgrade ASAP, Lanzar is sh1t. |
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Silver Member Username: Kd7nfrMontpelier, ID United States Post Number: 973 Registered: Apr-05 | If it overheats, you need to turn the gain down. |
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Silver Member Username: CaraudioPost Number: 109 Registered: Sep-05 | doesnt over heat hasnt yet hasnt even got close but after about 15-20min of use n i stop n pop trunk check it out its PRETTYYY HOTT like id get burned if i touched it longer den 5-7 seoncds. |
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Bronze Member Username: LanzarchampBakersfield, California United States Post Number: 98 Registered: Sep-05 | lanzar is not crap, i wouldn't upgrade to a better two channel, if i upgraded id upgrade to a monoblock 1 ohm stable amp, but if you upgraded to a bigger two channel, ud just have to turn down the amp so it doesn't put out to much power for the subs, plus the model subs you have cant really take that much more rms then specified, plus your subs will probly reach there full excursion if you have everything tuned and setup right, no need for more wattage |
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Silver Member Username: CaraudioPost Number: 110 Registered: Sep-05 | Well do you want to see the box and the subs? |
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Silver Member Username: Kd7nfrMontpelier, ID United States Post Number: 975 Registered: Apr-05 | Yea, that's overheating. |
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Silver Member Username: CaraudioPost Number: 111 Registered: Sep-05 | Well from waht you've told me i have it set at 2ohms so thats a good thing right? Now for the settings at the back of the amp which ill get to you along with settings of my HU and that would be the fine tuned to the max right? Plus i want to find a clear class i dont want all that dam writing in it:@ Also this is somthing could pop the trunk to show off just a bit. |
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Silver Member Username: CaraudioPost Number: 112 Registered: Sep-05 | Really? Umm well i was told amps get hot but once they go to protect mode is when their over heating i havent had a problem like that ofton and thats only when i crank my volume to about 30/40 on HU for 20min so maybe that too could be why? |
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Bronze Member Username: LanzarchampBakersfield, California United States Post Number: 99 Registered: Sep-05 | your fine keep the setup you have and get it equalized by someone that knows what there doing or do it yourself so it sounds good and doesn't overheat |
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Silver Member Username: CaraudioPost Number: 113 Registered: Sep-05 | if i told you the settings of hu and amp and it sounds pretty good becasue some one set it for me but amps getting kinda hot could you give me better reccomended settings? |
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Silver Member Username: Kd7nfrMontpelier, ID United States Post Number: 977 Registered: Apr-05 | I can run mine all day long with nothing get hot enough that I can't sit and hold my hand on it. |
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Silver Member Username: CaraudioPost Number: 114 Registered: Sep-05 | Whats your setup? How much did you spend (US DOLLERS?) |
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Silver Member Username: Kd7nfrMontpelier, ID United States Post Number: 978 Registered: Apr-05 | Read my profile (I think it's up-to-date). And I have no idea how much I've spent on it all. |
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Bronze Member Username: LanzarchampBakersfield, California United States Post Number: 100 Registered: Sep-05 | well what are you looking for overall more spl over sq, or sq over spl |
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Silver Member Username: CaraudioToronto, Ontario Canada Post Number: 115 Registered: Sep-05 | I only use the Subs for BASS. |
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Silver Member Username: LanzarchampBakersfield, California United States Post Number: 102 Registered: Sep-05 | i know that, im asking you, do you want sound quality over just plan out loudness, do you want it to sound clear and pound good, or just pound freaking hard and who cares about sound quality |
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Silver Member Username: CaraudioToronto, Ontario Canada Post Number: 117 Registered: Sep-05 | Well i want it to be a NICE sounding HARD POUND. i dont wana rattle the SHIz outa my car but i dont want it to not move a tissue which i hold infront of the ports of the sub lol. |
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Silver Member Username: CaraudioToronto, Ontario Canada Post Number: 118 Registered: Sep-05 | I want it to hit hard and sound good so a bit of both. Right now it hits hard and sounds good well i havent heard difference between quality and jus straight up BANG. |
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Silver Member Username: LanzarchampBakersfield, California United States Post Number: 103 Registered: Sep-05 | then whats the problem with the setup you have now, is it just the amp is getting hot |
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Silver Member Username: CaraudioToronto, Ontario Canada Post Number: 119 Registered: Sep-05 | Yepp and also maybe if it can be fine tuned main question was should i upgrae the amp but you said no you shouldnt aslong as its tuned nice your fine so now i just gota FINE Tune it. 1. Amp getting kinda hot 2. Settings need to be adjusted by some smart personelle guy that set them is some bootleg isntaller cheap installation and good work no knowledge. |
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Silver Member Username: CaraudioToronto, Ontario Canada Post Number: 120 Registered: Sep-05 | Think my HPF is at like 225 and my sub level is at +4dB i forget what my LPF is on tho. Then another setting is at 60+12hz |
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Silver Member Username: LanzarchampBakersfield, California United States Post Number: 104 Registered: Sep-05 | set it in low pass mode and your db in the exact middle, and it looks like the other setting is your low pass setting put that to the lowest, all the way to the left, and your input level control should be set exactly what your hu is at, so i cant help you there ull have to check |
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Silver Member Username: CaraudioToronto, Ontario Canada Post Number: 123 Registered: Sep-05 | Ill write down all settings for you ill do it now brb. |
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Silver Member Username: CaraudioToronto, Ontario Canada Post Number: 124 Registered: Sep-05 | HU Settings: Bass +12 Trebel +12 Sub Lvl +4db (max +/-6db) Sq Set 60hz+6 (can be +12 or 0) LPF Hz 80 HPF Hz 180 Amp Settings: Amp level is about same as HPF if not jus a tad higher LPF about 25% \ like that on the amp scale to the left so you can turn it up more but its on the left side. HPF about 65-70% / to the right of the adjust knob. Freq Amp set: Low |
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Silver Member Username: CaraudioToronto, Ontario Canada Post Number: 126 Registered: Sep-05 | bump. |
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Silver Member Username: Kd7nfrMontpelier, ID United States Post Number: 980 Registered: Apr-05 | Take it to a shop and have them do it... I have no clue wtf you're talking about... |
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Silver Member Username: CaraudioToronto, Ontario Canada Post Number: 131 Registered: Sep-05 | Thoes are my SETTINGS FOR AMP and HU are they alright? |
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Silver Member Username: CaraudioToronto, Ontario Canada Post Number: 132 Registered: Sep-05 | Ive been told to turn the LPF setting all the way down. SO far. |
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Silver Member Username: CaraudioToronto, Ontario Canada Post Number: 133 Registered: Sep-05 | Now for my HU should i leave the HPF and LPF settings as is on my Head Unit or what? |
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Silver Member Username: Kd7nfrMontpelier, ID United States Post Number: 983 Registered: Apr-05 | Dude, I have no idea wtf you're talking about. It's hard to explain, unless I were there to show you... |
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Silver Member Username: CaraudioToronto, Ontario Canada Post Number: 135 Registered: Sep-05 | Well what dont you get? My HU has LPF and HPF settings okay? Now my LPF setting is 80Hz and my HPF setting is 180Hz Now at the back of the amp LPF is at about 25% of the way up HPF is about 80% of the way up Level on the back of the amp is on about 85% of the way. My DB Bass Boost is about about 1/3 the way up. Now the amp is getting really hot after about 15min so now what should i do for the settings? Ive been told by tunring down LPF it will increase the loudness but what will it take away from?? |
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Silver Member Username: LanzarchampBakersfield, California United States Post Number: 112 Registered: Sep-05 | turning down the lpf doesn't increase the loudness, it tells your amp that thats the lowest hz you want it to send to your subs, most low bass notes hit harder, depending on enclosure, but if you amps lpf drops all the way down to 15 and your subs produce from 35+ it might be wise to put it at the lowest, glass help me out here ive been up all night throwing up, my minds all messed up |
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Silver Member Username: LanzarchampBakersfield, California United States Post Number: 113 Registered: Sep-05 | ment to say might be wise to NOT put it at the lowest |
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Silver Member Username: Kd7nfrMontpelier, ID United States Post Number: 985 Registered: Apr-05 | Eddie hit it on the head. But your gain is what will make it overheat. Turn it down a bit (I'm assuming it doesn't tell you the volts on the dial...). And I don't understand your HPF and LPF on your HU. I didn't want to tell you wrong... |
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Silver Member Username: CaraudioToronto, Ontario Canada Post Number: 139 Registered: Sep-05 | Ill turn that down a tad for shore. Also ill turn down some the settings on the HU. |