New member Username: MixmastaspigOknagan, B.C Canada Post Number: 7 Registered: Sep-05 | I'm getting a 4000 watt amp and I need at least 4 gauge, im looking to get some 2 gauge. Does brand mater at all like whats the difference from $200 cables to $100 cables....does brand play an item at all? whats the main difference? thanks! |
Silver Member Username: Alias747MN Post Number: 663 Registered: Apr-05 | You must be crazy if you are going to run a TRUE 4000 wrms amp on 4 gauge wire. But I can pretty much gaurantee that you are playing with a Sony/Boss/Lanzar/Pyle amp here, in that case 4-gauge is more than enough. Sorry bro but you are not really getting 4000 watts. |
Anonymous | harsh, but thats how cold salmon is like |
Platinum Member Username: GlasswolfWisteria, Lane USA Post Number: 10273 Registered: Dec-03 | 4000 watts with a class D amplifier is over 400 Amperes of current at 12 volts. 0 AWG cable is only good for 325A. 4AWG is good for 150A peak. These ratings decrease with the length of wire used. What is the make and model of this amp you're using? these links may help you: http://www.the12volt.com/info/recwirsz.asp http://www.wickedcases.com/caraudio/capacitors.html http://www.wickedcases.com/caraudio/charging.html http://www.betteraudio.com/geolemon/newmain/battcapalt/ http://www.bcae1.com/charging.htm http://www.bcae1.com/chargin2.htm and to buy cable and interconnects, look at: http://www.knukonceptz.com/ |
New member Username: MixmastaspigOknagan, B.C Canada Post Number: 8 Registered: Sep-05 | Actually the amp is HElix-Dark Blue and its 800x2 RMS buddy (for ISAAC.W). Its retails for $1,800 so its not some cheap amp. Dont know what you use. and yeah Glass wolf heres the specs on the amp. Cont. Power 4 Ohm 2 x 500 Watts Cont. Power 2 Ohm 2 x 800 Watts Cont. Power 1 ohm 2 x 1000 Watts Cont. Power Bridged 4 Ohm 1 x 1600 Watts Cont. Power Bridged 2 ohm 1 x 1950 Watts |
Silver Member Username: Alias747MN Post Number: 664 Registered: Apr-05 | I wasn't trying to be mean, but there are just too many people that come in here saying that they have a 2400w amp and it is Boss or Sony or something. In either case, you aren't really pulling 4000w, your amp is 4000w at the absolute max, like the specs say, 1950 continuous wrms @ 2 ohms bridged, more realistic. You are going to need 1/0 gauge wire, 4 gauge won't do. I'm sure you have already incorporated a HO alt into your budget also? Nice amp btw. |
Platinum Member Username: GlasswolfWisteria, Lane USA Post Number: 10296 Registered: Dec-03 | yeah with those specs you'll have to use 0AWG for the amplifeir straight off the battery(ies) and I'd consider going with an upgraded charging system.. at least dedicated isolated batteries, and probably a larger alternator to keep them charged, using an isolator. that's a heck of a lot of current to draw, even for a class D amp. I know, because I'm using three amps in my system, all class AB, and two are driving about 1300wRMS each and the third is at about 500 wRMS and I had to do that work for my own car to handle the current demands. |
Bronze Member Username: MixmastaspigOknagan, B.C Canada Post Number: 13 Registered: Sep-05 | I didnt mean to be mean either ISAAC!! sorry just people judge all the time, not nice! |
Platinum Member Username: GlasswolfWisteria, Lane USA Post Number: 10311 Registered: Dec-03 | we do that based on overwhelming consistancy of repetition and past experience though. Look at past threads and you'll see the pattern. 99% of the time you see any mention of one amplifier producing more than about 1600 watts, with few exceptions it's some peak-rated legacy or kingwood special. Orion's 2500D and a few others are the exception but most times people in that catagory spent so much on the amp they tell everybody exactly what they're trying to feed with the current.. haha It just gets to be habit to make sure and to verify that people know what they're saying. It's never wise to assume they do. That gets you and them into trouble in the end. Always better to be sure. Another problem is that a lot of times people want help but never supply enough detailed information for us to answer them accurately.. likem "How do I wire my amp and subs?" or "what amp do I need? I have subwoofers!" Then we have to spend 3 days asking them questions to milk enough info out of them to answer their questions.. and after that, they still walk away in a daze because they asked questions they weren't prepared to have answered anyway. |
New member Username: CeoceanPost Number: 2 Registered: Sep-05 | hey can anyone HELP me out!!! I need a wiring diagram for a '94 Mercury Villager...also for a '93 Toyota Camry...thanks a bunch! |