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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 1682 Registered: Feb-05 | Which one whould you guys go with if money were'nt the issue here ? Which one gets louder/SPL ? Which one has better SQ ? ETC.... |
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Silver Member Username: Dominirica012Charlotte, North Carolina US Post Number: 543 Registered: May-05 | i like the eclipse more..seemed better to me althouhg ive only heard the avalanche once...although that avalanche goes deep |
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 1688 Registered: Feb-05 | What type of box did you have the Eclipse 15 ti in ? What type of box did you hear the Avalanche 15 in ? |
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 1690 Registered: Feb-05 | One thing i do notice is the Avalanche being more efficiant as far as power. Avalanche 15 is dual 2 ohm while the Eclipse Ti 15 is Dual 4 ohm which means that i can wire the Avalanche 15 to 1 ohm and only wire the Eclipse TI 15 into 2 ohm. That makes a big differance when trying to find a good amp for a good deal. I only have a CrossFire VR1000d which is 1 ohm stable 1332 rms x 1 I also own a Zapco 500m mono amp that can do 700 rms x 1 @ 2 ohm but im not sure if thats enough for the TI. |
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Silver Member Username: Dominirica012Charlotte, North Carolina US Post Number: 548 Registered: May-05 | yea the zapco is enough those TIs take 750 rms...the eclipse was sealed and the avalanche was ported |
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Silver Member Username: Dominirica012Charlotte, North Carolina US Post Number: 549 Registered: May-05 | and they were the 12" not the 15"s...but i only heard the avalanche for like 2-3 minutes...but i liked how the eclipse sounded more and they look cooler too |
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eclipsefanatic Unregistered guest | eclipse all the way!! |
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 1691 Registered: Feb-05 | Also that zapco is a class a/b so it will put out cleaner bass too which is good. So you only heard the 12 avalanche right. Well ive been thinking for a long time and ive decided to narrow it down to thes 2 subs. Eclipse TI 12 or 15 ported - whichever whould work better with my zapco500M amp 700 x 1 @ 2 ohm or ID MAX 12 off my Zapco 500M Thats a tough decision man. Ill keep my Avalanche 15 with my CrossFire VR1000D and thats sealed at 2.25 cu ft. |
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Silver Member Username: Dominirica012Charlotte, North Carolina US Post Number: 554 Registered: May-05 | the ID MAX will have better SQ but the Eclipse will get louder...and that eclipse sounds real good in a ported box and its real loud too...hell yea its a hard decision any of those 3 setups will be real nice though |
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 1692 Registered: Feb-05 | decisions... |
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Silver Member Username: Dominirica012Charlotte, North Carolina US Post Number: 562 Registered: May-05 | roll a dice or flip a coin or something any of those setups will not dissapoint you |
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 1693 Registered: Feb-05 | which one whould you choose if you had the choice quick shot ? |
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 1694 Registered: Feb-05 | ID MAX 12 - $329.99 plus shipping Eclipse TI 12 - $319 plus shipping Eclipse TI 15 - $355 plus shipping Avalanche 15 - paid $300 for it. Just trying to decide between ID MAX 12 and the TI 12 or 15 depending on which will suit my zapco 500m mono 700 x 1 @ 2 ohm amp better. |
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Silver Member Username: Dominirica012Charlotte, North Carolina US Post Number: 563 Registered: May-05 | well that amp would work better for the TI than the IDMAX because the TI requires 750rms while the IDMAX requires 1000rms...depends if your going for more SQ or SPL..i like SPL so if i was you(and i will probably do this as well in a few months) get a 15" TI ported...will sound good and get plenty loud |
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 1695 Registered: Feb-05 | actually jonathan has said that the ID MAX sounds really good with 600-1000 watts because of its efficiancy however i think im gonna go with the 15 TI as long as i can fit the box in the trunk of my camry. Do you have pictures of a 15 Ti in a ported box built to eclipse specs or whatever sounds best for spl/sq ? |
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Silver Member Username: Dominirica012Charlotte, North Carolina US Post Number: 565 Registered: May-05 | go to www.realmofexcursion.com thye have a whole bunch of videos and stuff or just google it |
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 1696 Registered: Feb-05 | Some might say that Zapco 500m mono class a/b amp that puts out 700 x 1 @ 2 ohms might not be enough for the TI 15 but im not sure cause i have really used this amp yet and its in the box brand new and ive never heard the TI 15 ported. Im mainly looking for more SPL really with the ability to maintain some SQ so it sounds accurate. |
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Gold Member Username: SubfanaticKy Post Number: 4554 Registered: Dec-04 | the ti can take alot more than 750 watts rms |
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 1697 Registered: Feb-05 | What amps out there could i look into for a TI 15 since its dual 4 ohm. I will need a amp thats 2 ohm stable to get the most out of it. What whould be some good amps to match up with it. Again im not into competition or anything, just for a daily driver with alot of spl and good sq. |
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Gold Member Username: SubfanaticKy Post Number: 4555 Registered: Dec-04 | Hmm, the Ednine.1 of course, 900 watts rms at 2 ohms, or the Hifonics BX1500d amp, which is 1000 watts rms at 2 ohms, but this is also a very low quality company. |
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Silver Member Username: Kd7nfrMontpelier, ID United States Post Number: 508 Registered: Apr-05 | ECLIPSE!!!! And the Eclipse can handle 750 watts RMS per voice coil. Just call 'em and talk to a tech. |
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 1698 Registered: Feb-05 | Is the Ednine.1 amp good quality ? How much do they run. NOt interested in Hifonics. Any other amps out there that whould make this thing rock ? |
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Gold Member Username: SubfanaticKy Post Number: 4556 Registered: Dec-04 | jake, wehat are you talking about, i mean, i have run some power to my eclipse, but 1500 watts rms from a true quality amp might be a little harsh. But mo, yes the amp is pretty good quality unlike there subs and i wanted one myself, they are 350 bucks shipped to your door from the company, also some morei thought about was a jbl 1200.1 and a jl 1000/1 lol, also a kicker kcx 1200.1, usually really underrated though |
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 1699 Registered: Feb-05 | These amps are putting out 1000 plus watts at 2 ohm ? |
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Silver Member Username: Kd7nfrMontpelier, ID United States Post Number: 512 Registered: Apr-05 | Subfanatic: I'm not saying to blare it all day long, short bursts. Call Eclipse man, they'll blow your socks off with the sh!t they know about that sub!!!! |
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 1700 Registered: Feb-05 | Of all those amps listed which one is the better one in your opinion guys ? JL 1000/1 , Kicker KCX 1200.1 or JBL 1200.1 or EdNine.1 ? for the 15 Ti ... |
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 1702 Registered: Feb-05 | How good is this Eclipse Amp for the 15 Ti ? I believe it does 1000 x 1 @ 2 ohm http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=210 |
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Silver Member Username: Kd7nfrMontpelier, ID United States Post Number: 517 Registered: Apr-05 | It's designed specifically for one sub. The DA7232 is designed to run two subs. They're designed to be a "perfect" match for their Ti's. |
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 1704 Registered: Feb-05 | Get this... It costs $699.99 at www.woofersetc.com and only $449.99 at www.electronicgiant.com !!!! that is a huge differance in price. Anyone here ever order anything from www.electronicgiant.com ? Thinking about buying this amp. |
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Silver Member Username: Kd7nfrMontpelier, ID United States Post Number: 522 Registered: Apr-05 | Yea, that's where I got my amp. |
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 1705 Registered: Feb-05 | Which amp did you get from them. Were you happy with the product. Did the amp have the seriel # listed still. Some companies take them off so you have to watch out. Do they offer any warranty for like a year ? |
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Gold Member Username: SubfanaticKy Post Number: 4558 Registered: Dec-04 | Mo, i ordered my 15 ti from there, great company |
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 1708 Registered: Feb-05 | Do they offer a 1 year warranty like woofersetc ? |
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Gold Member Username: SubfanaticKy Post Number: 4561 Registered: Dec-04 | mine came with a 1 year from Eclipse |
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 1710 Registered: Feb-05 | You know anything about this amp http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=210 Im trying to decide which amp to get for the 15 Ti |
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Gold Member Username: SubfanaticKy Post Number: 4563 Registered: Dec-04 | actually, tahtw ould be really nice for the eclipse, its a 1 channel amp thats 1000 watts rms at 2 ohms. |
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 1712 Registered: Feb-05 | Yeah i know... i am deciding on it right now. Might aswell get both the 15 ti and the eclipse amp. Whould you happen to know if the 1000 rms is at 12 volts or 12.5 or higher ? |
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Silver Member Username: Kd7nfrMontpelier, ID United States Post Number: 523 Registered: Apr-05 | I believe it's at 12.6, can't remember, might call 'em? I'm off to bed man, nite. |
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 1716 Registered: Feb-05 | Thanks for your input jake. |
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Silver Member Username: Kd7nfrMontpelier, ID United States Post Number: 527 Registered: Apr-05 | No problem man. I know you'll love Eclipse. They took 2 years working on the Ti's. Good luck, and I'm here to help 'ya! Niters. (I'm really going this time!) |
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 1719 Registered: Feb-05 | Ive decided on the following amps for the Ti 15. Eclipse DA7122 - 1000 x 1 @ 2 ohm - $449 plus shipping ED NINE.1 - 900 x 1 @ 2 ohm - $350 free shipping JL e1800 - 800 x 1 @ 2 ohm - $389 plus shipping What do you all say think. |
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Gold Member Username: SubfanaticKy Post Number: 4570 Registered: Dec-04 | id say the eclipse amp, then the ed, then the jl |
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 1723 Registered: Feb-05 | I think so to sub but that ED NINE.1 has amazing specs ans features for a price of $350 free shipping. |
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Gold Member Username: SubfanaticKy Post Number: 4572 Registered: Dec-04 | iknow, its a great amp, the only reason i put eclipse above it just because i love the company, and the reliability would be phenominal, and itwould be nice to have matching stuff |
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Silver Member Username: Kd7nfrMontpelier, ID United States Post Number: 529 Registered: Apr-05 | Yup :D. I'm with Sub on this one :D. I'm only switching to Zapco because I want to give 'em a test drive :D. |
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 1725 Registered: Feb-05 | lol..thanks guys for your feedback / so for under $500 the eclipse amp is the best way to go huh.. im gonna order it today but i wanna make sure if this is the best choice for amps for the Ti for under $500 |
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Gold Member Username: SubfanaticKy Post Number: 4579 Registered: Dec-04 | i have my 1000/1 for sale for 500 plus shipping |
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Silver Member Username: Kd7nfrMontpelier, ID United States Post Number: 534 Registered: Apr-05 | MO: trust me, it is. If you have Eclipse amp/sub, they'll treat you well if something goes wrong. You WILL NOT be disappointed, trust me. I promise!!! |
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 1729 Registered: Feb-05 | Ok Jake, ill let you know after im done ordering it. |
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Bronze Member Username: JthreeBay area, Ca Usa Post Number: 79 Registered: Apr-05 | i thought you could wire dual 4 ohm down to 1 ohm. |
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 1737 Registered: Feb-05 | ONly if you have 2 subs that are dual 4 ohm can you do that ONLY. If you have 1 subwoofer thats dual 4 ohm it can only be wired down to 2ohm so you will need a amp that is 2 ohm stable |
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Silver Member Username: Kd7nfrMontpelier, ID United States Post Number: 537 Registered: Apr-05 | And that Eclipse amp only goes down to 2 ohm. :D |
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 1743 Registered: Feb-05 | Jake, you own the Eclipse DA7122 right. What are you pushing with it ? |
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Silver Member Username: Kd7nfrMontpelier, ID United States Post Number: 545 Registered: Apr-05 | I have the DA7232, and what do you mean pushing it with? I have a DA7232 4,000 watt amp that pushes 2 SW9122's. |
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 1746 Registered: Feb-05 | Thats a nice setup. Im gonna be going with 1 15 Ti ported 4.25 cu ft or so tuned to i believe 32hz off that DA7122. How does yours sound ? Must hurt when it hits and make it hard to breath. |
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Silver Member Username: Kd7nfrMontpelier, ID United States Post Number: 560 Registered: Apr-05 | Yes... It's extremely loud. Loud enough that I have yet to turn it up all the way while in the car :D. And I'm deafer than sh!t. Your body can only take so much... And it sounds good too. Not the greatest, but I'm more of an SPL guy anyways... And with that 15", I'd go more for 5cu/ft. 4 is the sweet spot for the 12", I can only assume the 15" will be better around 5cu/ft. And tuned at 32Hz will let the sub have good extension, yet still get loud. Also: it'll be loudest around 40Hz. :D Good luck bro, I'm off to bed, niters. |