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Silver Member Username: MixneffectOrangevale, Ca. USA Post Number: 274 Registered: Apr-05 | There has been a lot of garbage inquiries lately, and I for one am disgusted. I am not against giving free advice. No, not at all. As a matter of fact thats why I come here (to help). There are scatter brains "Up-In-Here" that have collected a little information from here a little information from there and have made up their own thesus. They do not bother to do homework/research. They just ask away and the fact that there are alot of others just like them in here, they get answers from them. Now that wouldnt be too bad if they just plyed in their own little world. What makes it dangerous is that they come back with a bunch of mislead information and start to ask away. The questions dont even make any sense. You basicly have to guess sometimes what they are talking about (first), then you have to re-educate them the right way, at which most will not even take your advice because it doesnt coincide with what they have stored/processed so far. One of the prize winners would be, "I want the best speaker out there", or ""I want the loudest system", etc... When you give them information on how to do their own research, they just want a quick easy answer/fix. I dont mean to be a hard a$$. I just ask that if you have a question, please address it legibly, so that we may understand your problem and how to fix it. If you half-a$sed your system, and have a problem dont expect us to give a quick easy fix to your solution. You should have done it right in the first place. If you cut corners, then you will definetly have problems. You have to go back to the source, and fix the problem there. A lot of people think that if you give them advice that requires more money/materials/more research, they think that you dont know what you are talking about,or that they think that they can do it for cheaper/less time/less parts, etc... |
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Silver Member Username: Iowahawks19Post Number: 287 Registered: Jun-05 | i agree totally with you mixneffect, i used to be one of those guys and i realized how stupid my questions where but at the time i didn't, so you got to give some syphmafy out to people because they just really are really new to car audio i agree with you 100% though, and all the questions i did ask i could of found i was too lazy to look for them, now all i do is search up car audio stuff and try to learn more |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Wilton, Ct Post Number: 3588 Registered: Dec-04 | amen brother thats pretty much why I stopped coming to this forum as much as I used to. |
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Silver Member Username: Iowahawks19Post Number: 289 Registered: Jun-05 | hey mixneffect don't you have that box building program? because i took like 3 shop classes this year because we can build whatever we want so i thought it would be cool if i built a ported box(since i've never done one before) if you could help me out/ or tell me where i can download that program at it would be great BTW james you gave some of the best info( when you were here) i learned alot of my stuff from you /joe/jonathen/isaac/glass/sean, and now mixneffect |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Wilton, Ct Post Number: 3589 Registered: Dec-04 | well thanks man I try to help out when I can. |
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Silver Member Username: MixneffectOrangevale, Ca. USA Post Number: 280 Registered: Apr-05 | Mike, Here is the website where you may purchase BAssBox6 Pro. It is $130 by itself. BassBox6 Pro / X-over3 Combo is $200. I got mine through my partner at the lab. He got me started in this hobby/business back in 1987. He stuck with it, and now he has his own sound lab. He offered partnership but I am still doing construction fulltime to pay the bills, but I do this as a hobby still. http://www.madisound.com/new.html |
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Gold Member Username: InvainMichigan United States Post Number: 3168 Registered: Aug-04 | James, where you been old man? |
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Silver Member Username: PhuktupbassheadScottsdale, Arizona United State... Post Number: 101 Registered: May-05 | So, like... what can we do to make it worth while to you pros? I mean, I appreciate everything I've been taught and every response I've received, but if people out there (that know EXACTLY what I should do to reach my EXACT goals) aren't answering because we seem like lazy dumbies... that really sucks! Truth is, we are - lazy dumies! But, i've already begun to evolve (a little). And, I realize now that all of the info and technical and specific details from this field are endless. NO ONE MAN CAN KNOWN IT ALL! right? So, I really, really want to gather and gather and gather all this wisdom and hopefully be able to soak in at least 15% of it all, you know? I don't want to be a lazy dumbie anymore!!!! But, whoever I can help who is... I will try. Hopefully, as time goes on, I'll learn more and more accurate knowledge and help more and more lazy dumb people (like myself). What I wanna know is, for those of you who are burnt out on helping us lazy dumbies, what can we do to make it worth your while? I mean, how can we get you to actually WANT to help us again. SERIOUSLY! State your requests, and maybe something can be done. Because there are obviously ALOT of you car audio PHUKIN' WIZARDS out there, that see us as "lazy dumbies". Yep, we are, but enlighten us, damn it! For reals, teach ME, if nobody else. It's not like you can walk into a car audio place and get the full on ACTUALLY GOOD advise from these people. I mean, that's their business... how they earn a living. They're not gonna tell us, why? They could do it themselves instead and feed their babies, you know? They are little or NO HELP at all! Trust me, I've tried... ALOT! You all are my only hope! I'm sure I speak for many when I write this. (just voicing my mind) peace. |
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Silver Member Username: PhuktupbassheadScottsdale, Arizona United State... Post Number: 102 Registered: May-05 | no offense intended whatsoever, by the way. I got alot of respect for you guys, and all I want is to learn. But, really, how do we make you all WANT to teach us again. What can we sweeten the deal for you with? $hit, I wanna know that all you phukers out there are cross referencing and double checking and reading specs - just SCRAMBLING to answer our questions!!! lol No, for reals, don't you all know how awesome you seem to all of us lazy dumbies. Who doesn't look up to you after getting your solution, applying it, and being successful??? It's the $hit, man. Thanks God we have you guys... So come on... be cool... we think you are... help us... teach us... pick 1 day of the week to answer and educate the absolute STUPIDIST questions that whole day. THAT"S how to clean it up around here. Teach us all into the next level. Then this forum will be swimming with knowledgeable, smart, info thirsty people. We'll be #1 on the net in no time! Nobody's forum could phuk with that! |
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Silver Member Username: GeekbikePost Number: 344 Registered: Dec-04 | Steps to knowing half of everything: 1) Type what you are looking for into a search engine. 2) Open up a relevant link 3) Read it 4) Go back to step 1 and repeat until you fully understand what you were looking for Posting on forums usually only gives you the exact answer you are looking for, not how the answer was obtained. |
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Gold Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 3332 Registered: Jun-04 | I was reading this and figured id give my 2 cents as well helping others is not a problem for me either but just as knacko said " Posting on forums usually only gives you the exact answer you are looking for, not how the answer was obtained." Look into how things work you might learn more than you thought and be glad you did. After all good outcomes dont happen by accident but knowing how they happen opens the door to more possibilities and a good final outcome. |
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Silver Member Username: MixneffectOrangevale, Ca. USA Post Number: 281 Registered: Apr-05 | I remember when I first got started. I didnt have internet forums to help me out. I read books, did research, and I got my hands dirty and did it for myself. No offense to the you Sean Gibson. I didnt recall your posts, or anyone in particular when I created this thread. I am speaking in general. There are people in here that ask stupid questions. A lot of these questions would have been answered if they would pick up a book, and read/studied/comprehended their research. Ok, check this out: I drove over my sprinkler valves. They were just 12" away from the driveway, and were not contained in those concrete boxes, like they should have been. They were not finished off yet. They needed the concrete box to be put in place over them (6 valves) and dirt filler should have been placed around it to give it strength. A concrete cover should have been placed over them to keep things out, and or away from damaging the valves. Well I was in a hurry, and I thought I would make the turn with my truck, but I didnt, and so I ran over the sprinkler valves, busting two pipes, one of them being the 2" main. Next thing I know is that I had 12'-15' of watter shooting up. It took me 2-3 minutes to shut off the main from the street. My driveway is 300' long. To make a long story longer; I am in the construction industry, but I am not a plumber, nor do I know anything about sprinkler systems. So I had to educate myself about what I need to do. I made a call to a local nursery and asked the guy if they carried the brand that I had. I had no clue that the word written on the valve itself was not the name brand. It was the model. Obviously the guy could not make up what I was talking about. I went to Home Depot and started looking around. I brought the broken part with me along with a list of materials that I had to replace (pipe, elbows, adhesive, valve, etc...). I asked the general employees there a few questions about how to go about this, and went home and fixed the problem. Now, had I went online, to a neighbor, or called a friend to ask how to go about this, and after recieving their thoughts, go about it in a half-a$$ed-ghetto repair special (duct-tape) or whatever cut-corner job, but not replace exactly what was needed (as new) it would later on come back to hunt me. The differnece is that I took the time to educate myself and researched how to connect all the pipes back to normal. For example: I have seen threads where someone wanted to use any old wire for wiring an amp/ speakers/HU. There are different wires for each application. You shouldn't use speaker wire as your ground wire, or remote wire. It will work as a test, but not under load as a permanent connection. Another, is when someone asks why he should use a certain amp rated at a certain wattage rating for his DVC or QUAD sub. He wanted to be able to run his sub down at .5 ohms but his amp was stable only down to 1 ohm. Asking these type questions in hoping that someone that is experienced will somehow come up with a "hat-trick" to circuimvent the problem because he doesnt want to admit that he cannot use the two (that amp and that sub wired down to .5 ohms) together without having problems. he thinks that we are trying to get him to spend his money for no reason. Meanwhile a "Know-It-All" will post right after you saying "its ok, just do it, its no big deal, just dont blast it". The guy goes and uses the easier advice and wires it. He ends up blowing things up, or worse yet, he get a slight symptom and the amp goes into protect mode, or clipps, or runs hott, or whatever. Now we have to un-screw it all over again for him. What a waste! |
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Silver Member Username: MixneffectOrangevale, Ca. USA Post Number: 282 Registered: Apr-05 | Good job Sean and Knacko, You re absolutely right. |
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Bronze Member Username: Camaro823British Colu... Canada Post Number: 72 Registered: Jun-05 | I agree, I personally throw some dumb sh!t out there and if I pissed anyone off I apoligize. It takes a little time to get to know how things work and I believe i'm getting there. I still thank all of you who take the time to answer my questions. |
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Silver Member Username: DarkseidPost Number: 103 Registered: Feb-05 | It would be nice if this actually worked,though unfortunately you are right. Most people are too lazy to research or just want a quick fix for everything. It's easier to just not respond to most of these topics cause they've all been discussed time and time again. I mainly frequent car audio and weightlifting boards and it's the same thing that goes on here, they want you to take them by the hand and do all the legwork for them. |
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Silver Member Username: MixneffectOrangevale, Ca. USA Post Number: 284 Registered: Apr-05 | This is a good example, and funny. https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/car-audio/148887.html |
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Silver Member Username: MixneffectOrangevale, Ca. USA Post Number: 287 Registered: Apr-05 | Here is another example, seems Glass has been getting a few of them lol, No pun intended Glass. https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/car-audio/148561.html |
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Silver Member Username: ZacdavisBeloit, Wi Post Number: 151 Registered: Dec-03 | I'm with mix on this one. By the way guys, i've been here( with a few login names) before there were even post counters. 3 or 4 years? not sure how long. Heck, I remember when glasswolf was a newbie lol. Now even though I agree with you mix I can asure this forum has been this way for as long as I can remember. But ya, it would be nice to see a great thread live more than 10 minutes without redundant threads pushing them to the bottom. |
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Gold Member Username: SubfanaticKy Post Number: 4419 Registered: Dec-04 | mix im with you ALL the way, sorry im one of those idiots lol |
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Gold Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 3334 Registered: Jun-04 | yeah the forum needs a section for frequently asked questions and helpfull links |
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Silver Member Username: MixneffectOrangevale, Ca. USA Post Number: 288 Registered: Apr-05 | If you guys go into the car audio lobby of this forum, and note the amount of posts that have been accumulated in each category, you would notice that Subwoofers, and Amplifiers have the most, by far. Subwoofers actually is almost twice the size of amplifiers posts. IMO I think this one needs the most help. Box design and material choice, quality of wrkmanship, etc... is very crucial in a sound system. I am willing to offer my free advice, to those that appreciate it. Zac, I have seen a few people here that come and offer true advice. What I dislike is the distruction of a good word. For me its not about the amount of posts that are generated in a thread, rather I get a good feeling when I know someone got good advice/help and is going to put it in effect. |
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Silver Member Username: MixneffectOrangevale, Ca. USA Post Number: 289 Registered: Apr-05 | Sean has an excellent point! |
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Gold Member Username: SubfanaticKy Post Number: 4421 Registered: Dec-04 | hahha sean always has an excellent point |
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Silver Member Username: Iowahawks19Post Number: 291 Registered: Jun-05 | what ever happend to Fishy?? he always gave good advice |
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Silver Member Username: Mikechec9Chicago/atlanta Post Number: 380 Registered: May-05 | unfortunately there are no "sticky's" on this forum. i think it would really help a great deal. |
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Silver Member Username: DisturbedpriestPost Number: 158 Registered: Jun-04 | I freq. ask retarded questions, but glass always ans' them for me.. ty glasswolf, i think you were the first person to enlighten me on caps along time ago.. and ty to everyone else who has helped me along the way, even though i dont ask much.. i love to read what everyone else post... that is how i gain my knowledge.. i am getting tired of the vs' post though... so hey as long as you guys keep ans' or someone does so i have something to do at night i love ya hehe. "jon" |
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Silver Member Username: DisturbedpriestPost Number: 159 Registered: Jun-04 | (oh and that love you guys comment .. i mean that in the nongay way.. unlike rupaul.. heh) |
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Silver Member Username: PhuktupbassheadScottsdale, Arizona United State... Post Number: 115 Registered: May-05 | you'er all right, it's true. FAQ section: great idea. Maybe even a place to find out who to direct our questions to... like sq specialists listed, then spl specialist listed, then enclosure pros' names, then installation vets' names, etc, etc. I mean, so we can know who knows what and maybe it'll help a little. Maybe even a place near our color rating - stating what we specialize in or something, yeah? |