Alpine NVE-N872A release date...
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New member Username: StanfrogPost Number: 4 Registered: Apr-05 | Has anyone heard when it's going to be available? rumors? predictions? http://www.roadfly.org/magazine/galleries/ces_2005/Alpine-NVE-N872A-picture32812,1;32797,1;0,1;.html  |
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wayne129 Unregistered guest | August/September 2005 | |
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ZZZZZzzz Unregistered guest | I just left a shop and he said he'll have them in by the end of September. We'll see. | |
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New member Username: StanfrogPost Number: 5 Registered: Apr-05 | I'm getting impatient with this one... They've already gotten this updated Nav unit, in Europe: http://www.caraudiodiscount.com/acatalog/Alpine_Navigation.html I like this Green/Red Illumination on their D310R, though. Would look real good against the dash of my WRX. Of course they'll never ship em here to the US. |
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New member Username: SsonnentagYuma, AZ United States Post Number: 1 Registered: Oct-05 | I called Alpine directly and they told me "the first part of October, 2005." They wouldn't elaborate any further. | |
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New member Username: SsonnentagYuma, AZ United States Post Number: 2 Registered: Oct-05 | Actually, I expect Alpine to make an announcement on Monday, October 3. | |
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Pedro7277 Unregistered guest | I called Alpine and they stated end of year to fill outstanding orders man am i confused already | |
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New member Username: SsonnentagYuma, AZ United States Post Number: 3 Registered: Oct-05 | Crutchfield has the NVE-N872A in their systems for ordering now. It isn't in the public area on their website yet, but the item number is 500NVEN872. One of the helpful online chat people from Crutchfield (thanks, Stephen!  )loaded up my online shopping cart with the unit and I placed my order. ETA at Crutchfield is 11/14/2005, price is $1699.99. Stephen is a great guy at Crutchfield, use him as your sales advisor if you don't already have someone in mind. Shawn |
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Anonymous | Don't bother to wait for it. Alpine always says things are going to be available on a certain date and then leads you on month by month. They have had serious problems with the NVE N872A and it is being discontinued this year. Might be available at end of next year. | |
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New member Username: SsonnentagYuma, AZ United States Post Number: 4 Registered: Oct-05 | Anonymous, you are so full of it. The N852A has been discontinued, not the N872A. You need to get out more. |
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New member Username: TommykPost Number: 1 Registered: Oct-05 | I think "anonymous" is right. I did a google search of the internet and, (a) found nothing saying the N852A has been discontinued and in-fact found it listed for sale in numerious places, and (b) no press release or anything directly from Alpine sayin when any "N872A" is going to be released. Just rumors from others. If I could find any indication it is "being shipped now" or whatever I would feel different. I have had the N872A on order now for over 3 months. Monday I am going to cancel my order and go with the Pioneer NAV-SYS620T whih IS available. I am tired of Alpine being so quiet and leading us on month by month with no direct announcements what-so-ever. TOM |
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Peter7277 Unregistered guest | This is an email from Alpine I have received which confirms Shawn's statement that the NVE-N872A will be rolling out in Mid-November. -----Original Message----- From: Alpine Electronics <alpine@stedb.com> To: pcolon@tmail.com Subject: In Tune News with Alpine: October 4, 2005 Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 19:54:06 -0400 Alpine_News > Experience 5.1 Multi-channel DVD music and Go Beyond Stereo today!Go > Beyond Stereo [http://st1111.net/dbm83/l.php?25533&74518] > Take your stereo system to the next level and 'Go Beyond Stereo > [http://st1111.net/dbm83/l.php?25533&74518]'. Alpine's fall > promotion features a true theater-quality, multi-channel 5.1 sound > system for less than $2,000. > We've paired high-performance components like the DVA-9860 DVD player > and MRA-F350 Theater amplifier with speakers and subwoofers in this > system to deliver the high-quality surround sound experience you are > accustomed to at home, in your car! > Solve your quest for sound and visit an authorized Alpine dealer > [http://st1111.net/dbm83/l.php?25533&74518] in the U.S. between October > 1 and December 30, 2005 to hear it for yourself. It's the best sound > you've ever heard 'Go Beyond Stereo > [http://st1111.net/dbm83/l.php?25533&74518]'. > -------------------- > Just Drive with Alpine's new Navigation system, Coming Soon! > Are you tired of navigation systems that are slow and hard to use? Need > a navigation system that is really useful? Look no further. Alpine will > introduce the most advanced navigation system to hit the market. The > new NVE-N872A has more than 9 million POIs (Points of Interest) and the > fastest CPU processing unit on the market, plus it's loaded with > features such as the ZagatA Restaurant Rating Guide and Smart City Map > showing building outlines, landmark icons and road widths. The > NVE-N872A is also Satellite Traffic Ready and is the only system that > will offer satellite traffic service from either XM or Sirius Satellite > Radio. > The NVE-N872A will be in a store near you this November. For more > information about the NVE-N872A be sure to visit the official Alpine > website [http://st1111.net/dbm83/l.php?25533&74518] periodically and > keep an eye out for the interactive web demo coming soon. > -------------------- > Heading for the Checkered Flag > Indy Racing League [http://st1111.net/dbm83/l.php?25533&74518] It's > the last Indy Racing League (IRL) race of the season! Don't miss the > 'Toyota Indy 400' on October 16, 2005 at the California Speedway in > Fontana, California. Alpine sponsors Dario Franchetti, who drives the > #27 car in this final race of the season. > If you can't make the race in person, you can catch Dario racing to > the finish line on ESPN, televised at 3:30pm EST. A©Copyright 2005 Alpine Electronics of America, Inc. All rights reserved. |
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New member Username: TommykPost Number: 2 Registered: Oct-05 | Come on! First it was in September, then it was at the end of September. Now, it says November (not mid-November). Want to bet then it will be December? And then it will take 2-3 months for them to fill their orders so at best it will be next year before delivery. I won't fall for it anymore. I am canceling my order and going with something else from someone who delivers. Sorry, just tired of waiting. But thanks anyway. TOM |
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New member Username: SsonnentagYuma, AZ United States Post Number: 5 Registered: Oct-05 | I'll have mine installed before Thanksgiving. |
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BiG E Unregistered guest | Where Did you buy yours Shawn... I would Like to know. Where Can I place an order for myself? | |
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New member Username: SsonnentagYuma, AZ United States Post Number: 6 Registered: Oct-05 | Up above in my 3rd post I have info on where I got mine. Shawn |
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New member Username: StanfrogPost Number: 6 Registered: Apr-05 | I know we're all getting impatient on this one... I started this thread back in May and we've gotten nowhere near a solid answer, aside from Peter7277 and his enewsletter. It's in the Spring 2005 Alpine catalog and I've been asking every dealer, installer and rep I can find in LA. I can't believe how little info is being let out about this thing. I'm not gonna get all personally offended and emotional over it and do anything crazy like run out and buy a Pioneer though. As much as it sucks waiting for a product to launch, you have to consider that this will be a next gen device. This nav unit will be much more advanced than anything else out there. The feature set is well worth it's expected $1500-1700 price tag too. The fact that it is upgradeable via memorycard, alone is a reassuring comfort. But, 3D building mapping, road width, nav traffic, zagat guide, voice recognition, nav will finally be touch screen compatible, 9 million POI's!!! I have to wait for this. It's going to be awesome. But, I will get pissed if Alpine drops an IVA-d320 that will support video playback from the rumored Video Ipod that apple is supposed to be releasing today. I can picture the day I install the d310 and the day after I'll need to upgrade to a d320, buy a new "AVpod" and with Alpine's reputation also probably have to by a new KCA-520i AVpod interface. If a video ipod is released, one of it's only practical purposes would be in-car entertainment though, if you think about it. Anyway, the wait continues... If anyone is sitting on information that they don't think is important or that we may already have... post it anyway. let's fill this page with as many NVE-N872A links as possible. A central local for everything NVE-N872A related. By the way Alpine, your nav unit looks pretty impressive but unless you start shipping it soon, Sony is gonna get the drop on you by announcing this magnificent nav unit and we're all gonna be using minidisc or somethin again. http://www.dottocomu.com/b/archives/001252.html |
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New member Username: SsonnentagYuma, AZ United States Post Number: 7 Registered: Oct-05 | I signed up to be on Alpine's news list a while back, and I too received the e-mail that Peter7277 posted stating that the N872A would be available in November. Coupled with Crutchfields ETA of 11/14 that they didn't have only a couple of days earlier I feel quite confident that there won't be any further delays in getting these units out to distributors. Shawn |
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New member Username: StanfrogPost Number: 7 Registered: Apr-05 | Video ipod now confirmed... now to see if this video out will work with the Alpine ipod adapter to the d310... hmmm... | |
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SurfnSoCal Unregistered guest | Is the KCA interface going to be able to transfer video? I thought it was audio only... | |
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Missile Unregistered guest | It is here. I got a call from my local stereo shop, and they said it is in stock | |
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peter7277 Unregistered guest | get out missile did they tell you a price yet | |
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Missile Unregistered guest | They told me that it is $1700. They only have one that they hooked up in store for people to demo. They said that they will be getting more in about a week. | |
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Vicpai Unregistered guest | You guys are right. The first rep I spoke to at Crutchfield did not have a clue. However, another rep (Marshall) did some research, and confirmed the November 14th ETA He even said that it might come in a bit sooner since their ETAs tend to be on the "conservative" side. This was a week back. They now have it on their website at www.crutchfield.com | |
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vicpai Unregistered guest | Missle, where is this store so that I may go and demo it, and hopefully order one?? Thanks! Vic | |
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Vicpai Unregistered guest | here's the direct link to the Crutchfield page: http://www.crutchfield.com/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=182450&I=500NVEN872 |
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Bronze Member Username: TjmutlowPost Number: 72 Registered: Sep-05 | Try waiting on Panasonic/...... They have made tv's nav ready for the last couple of years | |
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jojoontheradio Unregistered guest | The N872A has already started shipping according to some dealers. Some stores should get them this week. | |
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New member Username: FrankrSan Diego, CA USA Post Number: 2 Registered: Nov-05 | Hello, I picked up my Alpine NVE-N872A today in San Diego. Installing it in a 2003 Honda S2000. Will update on how easy the install is and how it works. Frank San Diego |
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New member Username: BlksndayGarden Grove, CA USA Post Number: 1 Registered: Oct-05 | Did you buy the traffic receiver? I heard you can use either XM or SIRIUS receiver to get traffic data on this unit. | |
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New member Username: FrankrSan Diego, CA USA Post Number: 3 Registered: Nov-05 | Alex, No I didn't buy the traffic receiver yet. Thats next. I have both SIRUS and XM in my S2000. I think the XM is operational. I'm also looking at the new Alpine HD radio to replace my Sony Xplod system. I was able to install the NVE-N872A main unit in the trunk last night. Next is to run and connect all the cables if I can find any room. Keep you posted. Regards, Frank |
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Vicpai Unregistered guest | Frank, could you please tell me where in San Diego did you get the unit from?? Thanks!! Vic |
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New member Username: FrankrSan Diego, CA USA Post Number: 5 Registered: Nov-05 | Vic, I purchased the unit from: Progressive Mobile Electronics 3677 Camino del Rio West San Diego, Ca 92110 (800) 836-8565 Phone (619) 295-8565 Ask for Jose and tell him Frank with the S2000 said to call. Regards, Fran in San Diego |
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New member Username: StanfrogPost Number: 8 Registered: Apr-05 | UH OH!!! I know that I said before in this thread, that I wouldn't get all crazy and buy a Pioneer. But I just got word of an updated Pioneer AVIC-N2. 30 gig hard drive (map disc no longer needed), Bluetooth, ipod controls,... I really don't want to like it, but it'll be tough to decide whether Alpine is worth choosing over this monster. Well just read this... Pioneer Electronics yesterday said they were planning to show off a new state of the art in-car navigation system at the 2006 Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas in January. Called the AVIC-Z1, this system will be available in early spring 2006. The AVIC-Z1 is what Pioneer is calling the most advanced in-car navigation system ever. Its on board, 30GB hard drive is capable of holding a large amount of information and stores the entire TeleAtlas database, including around 11 million points of interest. Other navigation and safety features of the AVIC-Z1 will include an ability to learn frequently traveled roads so it can calculate suggested routes, a routing algorithm which takes into account actual road data such as posted speed limits when suggesting routes, optional real time traffic information through XM, brand icons on screen for companies like Chili's and Albertsons, voice recognition to tell the device to perform navigation, audio video and attachment functions, integration with Bluetooth so that when paired with compatible cell phones audio is muted when calls are made or received and a 7" color touch screen. As for entertainment, the AVIC-Z1 can playback digital music files stores on its hard drive, displaying information on the music collected from the online Gracenote CDDB Music Recognition Service. Other features in this vein include DVD video playback when fed to a separate monitor, CD-MP3 playback capability, AM/FM/XM (optional)/Sirius (optional) and complete control of an attached iPod when an optional adapter is used. "The AVIC-Z1 builds on Pioneer's success and more than 10 years of experience in navigation from Japan," said Michael Townsen, director of marketing for mobile entertainment at Pioneer Electronics (USA) Inc, in a statement. "It is clearly the most advanced navigation system we've ever developed for the U.S. market to make the driving experience easier, safer and less stressful." NOW, I LOVE MYSELF SOME ALPINE...But this sounds sick... too bad it'll have the Pioneer UI. Alpine dropped support for Nokia phones a while back and it was one thing that I really think could have been great on the d310. But I think Pioneer really got smart by putting the Bluetooth into this thing. Great idea. Also, the "smart" learning technology sounds cool as hell. It seems like it will analyze your driving style and route you accordingly. I can't say I'm sold yet but for $2200 or whatever, it may be a no brainer. The d310 is $1400, nav is $1600, ipod interface $100, Sat radio adapter $100, TV Tuner $200... and in the end it all seems to add up to less features. WOW, what to do... That bluetooth and 30gig HD may sway me. What do you guys think?  |
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Unregistered guest | One problem with the Pioneer units is that you can no longer override the "You're in motion" warning, because it uses the gyroscope as well as the parking brake - you MUST either set the destination before you begin your trip, or pull over. I find that really annoying. (Actually, I just found that there's apparently a hack involving grounding an additional set of wires. Who knows if that will continue working or not...) |
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Orange_iPod_SD Unregistered guest | Frank, Did you get everything installed? How is it? |
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Silver Member Username: TjmutlowPost Number: 104 Registered: Sep-05 | Jay, bypassing is easy both for the n2 and d1 | |
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New member Username: 68birdLake Zurich, IL United States Post Number: 3 Registered: Nov-05 | I am thinking of getting the N872A, since i already have the d310, but am not sure what to do about a bluetooth solution. Any ideas? Do you think Alpine will come out with a bluetooth option for the d310? | |
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Orange_iPod_SD Unregistered guest | Brian, From what I saw of the N872a, the bluetooth option is there, it just isn't working, so I suspect that there will be an update that will support it at a later date. |
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New member Username: 68birdLake Zurich, IL United States Post Number: 4 Registered: Nov-05 | That would be great news if bluetooth is there already. Does anyone have any more info on this or should i call alpine to verify? | |
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Orange_iPod_SD Unregistered guest | Brian, Went to check out the n872a again today at my audio dealer's shop. From what I saw and what he told me, bluetooth is not supported but the software has some phone dialing options that are not enabled. Since the option is there, I would think that a later software update disc or flash card would support it. The nav unit was very impressive. Can't wait to get my xmas bonus so I can get one for the car. |
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Unregistered guest | Ty - that's good news. Still, Pioneer's changes to the N2 make me nervous; it implies that they consider themselves potentially liable unless they make every effort to thwart bypassing. I've watched this happen with TiVo; at first it was "don't ask, don't tell", and then hacking got progressively harder until it became practically impossible. I'm glad to hear that people have figured out ways around the new interlock, but I wouldn't make a $5,000 purchase betting on the fact that it'll remain possible. |
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New member Username: FrankrSan Diego, CA USA Post Number: 6 Registered: Nov-05 | Hello, Finished installing my Alpine NVE-N872A gps unit in my Honda S2000. It was very easy to install and worked the first time I turned it on. I tried it out on a trip from San Diego to Julian east of San Diego then on to Palm Springs driving by way of the Salton Sea. Then up thru the mountains to Temecula to the Pala Casino for diner. The navigation worked without a problem. Hope to see a bunch of upgrades to the unit. The data base is not current and sometimes its hard to understand the manual. The altitude display would be better as a readout in feet instead of a vertical scale. Alpine has a chance to make this unit a real winner. The display is easy to read and scrolls smoothly. My next install is the Alpine DVA-9965 AM/FM/HD Radio/CD/DVD/MP3 Player. I have my order in and should receive it by the end of the month - I hope. Frank San Diego |
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Anonymous 1 Unregistered guest | I am a very old fashion minded person and had never thought of using new technology such as navi system to guide my way, but Alpine has totally changed my perspective. I have already tested out the Alpine NVE-N872A in my friend's car and I think this unit is awesome!!! Easy to search for POIs, smooth scrolling, good usability, and the user interface is way better than any other navi systems that I've seen. I just purchased one and about to get it installed tomorrow. |
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Vicpai Unregistered guest | Frank, first off, thanks for referring me to the shop in San Diego. I wanted to ask you if you were able to check out if the unit can be programmed while the vehicle is moving, or does one need to figure a way to "bypass" this, like the old system needed?? (I usually have a passenger program for me while I'm driving) Thanks! Vic |
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New member Username: BlksndayGarden Grove, CA USA Post Number: 2 Registered: Oct-05 | I got one system myself and love it. Vicpai, your passenger can enter your destination while you're driving. It will pop up a disclaimer message saying something like "If you're the driver, please pull over before using ...blah blah". Just choose OK then it will allow you to use. Frank, did you try out the Zagat feature, this is cool. You can find the top rated restaurant in area. Nice feature only that it doesnt support voice recognition in this feature, you have to use touch screen or remote. |
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Vicpai Unregistered guest | Alex, thanks! Great!!..that is very refreshing to know!!! BTW, Alpine has never done this stupidity with their OEM(Factory) versions....the reason I'm buying this Nav system is because it the EXACT same unit as in the new ACURA RL, including the NAVTRAFFIC and ZAGAT GUIDE. (Alpine makes the Nav systems for all Honda/Acura vehicles and until the release of the NVE-N872A, the OEM Honda/Acura system was the ABSOLUTE BEST SYSTEM IN THE UNIVERSE) |
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Unregistered guest | I am selling these nav units on ebay for 1475.00 shipping included.. If you wish to buy away from ebay it will be 1450.00 shipping included. These are brand new in the box. I will give you guys a link to my auction.. I have 100 percent feedback and will ship same day payment is made. Also I just installed my own nve-n872a and it is by far the best nav out there. It replaced my avic-d1(that was bypassed.) No comparison http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Alpine-Navigation-NVE-N872a-free-ship-with-buy-it -now_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ38653QQitemZ8015344175QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW |
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New member Username: OdynavPost Number: 1 Registered: Nov-05 | I'm interested in the new Alpine NVE-N872A, whenever it comes out. Does anyone know if you can input multiple destinations and have it plot the shortest (quickest) route to all of them? The navi that I have in my 2001 Odyssey can do this "salesman" routing with up to 5 entries and I love this feature. Pioneer says they don't do it, and I can't get an answer from Alpine. |
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Unregistered guest | Sidney, Yes you can. It is called "Today's Plan". You can have it choose the shortest route or it can go in the order you enter them in. I think I read in the manual you can store up to 100 destinations. |
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Unregistered guest | btw, the Alpine NVE-N872A is already out. I got 5 units and have already sold 3 of them. If you need a unit for $1500 (retails for $1700), shoot me an email. | |
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New member Username: TommykPost Number: 3 Registered: Oct-05 | With my NVE N872A something must be very wrong. I live in Augusta Georgia and with the exception of destinations right along (very) major roads it fusses and says words to the effect, "turn-by-turn guidance cannot be provided for the destination you have provided". Where I live has existed for over 100 years. Is anyone else getting this message? I cannot find any setting to fix this. What does not make sense is that then when I am in the problem destination area, it does know all the street names. It is like it cannot calculate a route just from the street names which it knows. This is not just a seldom occurrance, it happens for almost every destination input. I could understand it if the area had not been mapped. I find it hard to believe the DVD is bad but could it be a firmware or BIOS problem. Just to try, my address is 12 Tall Pine Circle, Augusta, Georgia if someone will see it you get my symptoms. Any ideas or comments will be appreciated as I am sure this device is supposed to be state-of-the art. The navagation system on my wife's 2006 BMW does not have this problem. Other than this problem the N872A seems to work flawlessly, except what good is a navagation system if it cannot navagate? Thank you for your help. | |
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New member Username: KentGlendale, California Post Number: 1 Registered: Dec-05 | Does anybody have any Alpine NVE-N872A for sale? | |
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Dave K Unregistered guest | I am getting mine installed today so I will try that and follow up Tom. | |
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Anonymous | >With my NVE N872A something must be very wrong. I live in Augusta Georgia and with the exception of destinations right along (very) major roads it fusses and says words to the effect, "turn-by-turn guidance cannot be provided for the destination you have provided"... >I find it hard to believe the DVD is bad but could it be a firmware or BIOS problem. Any ideas or comments will be appreciated as I am sure this device is supposed to be state-of-the art. Other than this problem the N872A seems to work flawlessly, except what good is a navagation system if it cannot navagate? Thank you for your help. The problem is that there are map areas that Navteq hasn't yet verified (what the system calls an "Unverified Area"). The map geometry exists, but it is of unknown accuracy so, rather than give you directions that might be entirely bogus, it presents you with a map with your destination indicated and a straight line vector pointing to it. |
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Vicpai Unregistered guest | Just installed the NVE-N872A in my 2000 Lexus LS 400, and would like to give a preliminary report. The NAV system is fantastic for the most part, but the VOICE RECOGNITION FEATURE is USELESS. Basically, you can control just 20 to 25% of the Nav's functionality by voice, which to me, is ludicrous!! Why even have the voice recognition feature, if most of the items are not accessible?? At first I thought there was something wrong with my unit, so I called Alpine and spoke to their tech support. The rep I spoke with (as well as the Alpine website) claimed that there are 342 commands available, and directed me to go back and say "HELP" and it should list the available commands for each screen. That's exactly what I did, and it appears that my system is, in fact, working properly and the claim of 342 available commands is simply not true (unless they're counting the exact SAME COMMANDS each time, again and again for different screens, which would be totally ridiculous)....at the most there are say 50 or 60 total UNIQUE commands available....or maybe they're counting each WORD as a COMMAND?? (which would also be ridiculous). For example, on the MAIN MENU PAGE there are eight selections: "DESTINATION" "HOME" "FAVORITES" "ZAGAT 2004" "ROUTE" "INFORMATION" "SETUP" and "EDIT"...of these, only "destination" and "home" can be accessed using voice commands. Another example: You can say "Find nearest freeway entrance" , but not "Find nearest Italian restaurant"....so one can see what I'm talking about. I'm comparing this to the OEM Factory version of Alpine's excellent systems found on Acura vehicles (as in my MDX) where the complete opposite is true. Every single Nav function can be operated using voice recognition (Acura claims around 600 available commands, and in THEIR CASE I fully believe that claim)...so why short change us patronizing the aftermarket version?? ...makes no sense to me at all. I can only hope that Alpine will release an update to correct this. | |
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Vicpai Unregistered guest | A slight update to my post: I spent over 2 hours this morning counting the individual UNIQUE voice commands in each and every screen available, and there are exactly 139 in total. However, of these, 26 commands are the letters from "A" to "Z" for the "spell mode" and 10 of them are numerals from "0" to "9" ....there is apparently something wrong with my system software (either I got an improper - maybe prepoduction - software disc or something like that) ...or Alpine is making absolutely false claims about their voice recognition feature. I find it VERY VERY VERY ODD that they would make a couple of functions on the main screen available for operation by voice, and then leave out most of the others. Doesn't make any logical sense!! I will be calling Alpine tech support again on Monday | |
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New member Username: 68birdLake Zurich, IL United States Post Number: 5 Registered: Nov-05 | I also have a question about the N872A voice recognition. Has any one been able to save an address with a voice command. IE... you can same your Home locaion so all you have to say is "Home" and it will go their. If you go to your save addresses screen their is an option to save a voice tag but it is grayed out. Has anyone else tried this? |
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New member Username: JramseyUnited States Post Number: 1 Registered: Dec-05 | Alpine VS. Pioneer: I bought the first generation Alpine nav unit (NVA-N751A with the CVA-1000 auto flip out screen) 8 years ago before most people even knew these things existed. Falling in love with the latest touch screen input and voice recognition, I "upgraded" the Pioneer AVIC-88DVD nav unit a year ago. Big mistake. The Alpine auto flip out screen was still working when I got rid of it after 7 long years of service. The Pioneer screen became stuck in the open position after six months. The Alpine is smarter and more intuitive to use. (Try to quickly input intersecting streets on the Pioneer and you'll quickly find it will give you a list of streets that DON'T intersect the first street! Then it will tell you they don't intersect after you select what you think is the closest choice. Lame). 70% of the time, for no apparent reason, the Pioneer fails to tell you if your destination is "on the left," or "on the right," which is a big deal in a four lane divided highway in heavy traffic. You shouldn't have to commit to a lane and guess like a football coach. As for voice control, the Pioneer fails miserably, so don't let voice control sway you to Pioneer. After living with both products, I still prefer my 8-year-old Alpine to the newer Pioneer I'm now saddled with. |
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New member Username: TommykPost Number: 4 Registered: Oct-05 | Yes N872A voice recognition is worthless. A few other things needing fixing. 1.) fix voice recognition so once set it stays on until you turn it off. On mine you have to reset voice recognition with each command. 2.) except for simple directions, like "turn left" I cannot begin to understand the voice prompts. 3.) It would be nice on the touch screen to have several icons to turn on/off turn-by-turn guidance so when you stop for lunch, etc. along the route you can turn off all the directions. 4.) Re: anonomous dated Dec. 6th. Yes, on rare occasions, "Unverified areas" are the problem, but the problem I described occurs at 98% of all Augusta, GA addresses, "Turn-by-turn guidance cannot be provided at the destination input". Dealer says Alpine sending a new unit with new DVD's to send old ones back for testing. Try my address at 12 Tall Pine Circle, Augusta, Georgia and see if it works for you. At the same time, when driving the car on any roads near or at my house the NAV unit knows the street names exactly. It is like it cannot compute any directions in Augusta except along very major highways. Tests with Atlanta addresses seem OK. I suspect the NavTech people simply misses some areas (Augusta is NOT a small town) see Mapquest with the attached addresses:
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Vicpai Unregistered guest | Tom Kohli: I tried your addresses in my nav and they are indeed in UNVERIFIED areas (as a matter of fact, the entire city of Augusta, GA is unverified). I did some research along these lines. The latest Nav DVD update for the previous Alpine NVE-N852A Nav system (software NVD-A211) does not have Augusta in the verified coverage areas. However, here's something interesting: The 2003 Acura MDX Nav (also MADE BY ALPINE) just got Augusta, GA added to their database in the latest FALL 2005 update that was just released a month or so back (Alpine seems to lag way behind in their aftermarket systems. They seem to treat the Factory/OEM Honda/Acura customers with much more importance, which is really very strange - same thing with the voice recognition feature)...just check out the updates and releases at www.acuranavi.com (note that the page eventually defaults to Alpine's website) |
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New member Username: TommykPost Number: 5 Registered: Oct-05 | Many thanks Vicpai. You have finally answered my question that even Alpine could or would not figure out. I guess what bothers me is that they must be totally incompetent to not have solved this problem themselves long ago. The real question now is just when is Alpine going to update the N872A database. I suspect they will give me/us a date that will be delayed 4 to 6 months like usual. The thing that all other persons who have bought N872A's should realize is that if you are away from the big mapped cities, there is a good chance your NAV system could be worthless. But, many thanks again Vicpai for your kind help. Question - would the Acura MDX Nav DVD work in the N872A? Merry Christmas, TOM | |
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SurfnSoCal Unregistered guest | awww man, I just ordered this with the Alpine IVA-D310. I hope I get a newer batch. Anyone in SoCal find "unverified areas"? | |
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gwill8 Unregistered guest | SurfnSocal... I installed my Alpine IVA-D310 with the NVE-N872A Nav system last week. I live in Orange County and there are no Nav issues. I have a friend that lives in a new development that isn't even in the 2005 Thomas Guide. It is now listed in the 2006 version. The alpine software does not have it listed either. The Zagat guide is 2004 so as long as you are in areas that were built prior to 2004 you should be good to go. I go all over the place for work and the system is great on the nightmare tangle of freeways in SoCal. I am just waiting for the real-time traffic add on. I do have a glich with the remote control. It doesn't work for some reason. My installer is trying to work it out with Alpine. |
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SurfnSoCal Unregistered guest | Where in OC are you? I am down in San Clemente (very south). hey, seeing as how I am doing the same thing as you gwill8....how hard was the install?I am going to do it myself. I have a harness/adapter to hook the headunit up to my stock system. Crutchfield just told me that the NVE-N872A is not sat traffic ready and when alpine releases there new one, it will be for sirrus. I think this guy was misinformed. is there anyway to get Navtraffic on the NVE-N872A now? |
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Unregistered guest | SurfnSoCal.. I live just North of you in SJC. I work in Irvine. The installation was easy because I paid Tweeter to do all work. They also installed an Alpine PXA-701 5.1 sound processor (rocks!), new amps & speakers in my Tahoe. The XM Sat traffic is supposed to be released in Spring '06. In Alpine time that means +/- 9 months. As far as I know there is no real time traffic for Alpine. Pioneer is the only one that has it right now. I drive out to Moreno Valley and Los Angeles all the time. I use the Nav all the time. Especially to find a Shell gas station in an unfamiliar area and I am driving on fumes. |
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SurfnSoCal Unregistered guest | is that the tweeter off Oso? If you don't mind me asking...how much did they charge you for the head unit and nav install? I have a place in SD that quoted me $240 for both the HU and Nav install. But I would rather stay local. | |
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Unregistered guest | I went to the Tweeter in Costa Mesa because it was easier because of where I work. I don't have my invoice in front of me so I can't remember the exact amount for the installation. I had so much work done that the install fee blended in with everything else. Tweeter is a good company and will be competive to any other installation qoute. Rob installed mine in Costa Mesa. He is an professional and a true perfectionist. I can't vouch for the one in Oso but it should be just as good. You can email me direct if you have any questions. gwill8@cox.net Grant |
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SurfnSoCal Unregistered guest | Thanks Grant! Does anyone know if its possible to mount the antenna under the back window (on the back window)? I was reading the installation sheet for the NVE-N872A, and it says you have to put the antenna on the roof. not to keen about this. |
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New member Username: BlksndayGG, CA USA Post Number: 4 Registered: Oct-05 | SurfnSocal, I had the antenna on my dashboard and it's working well in Socal & Las vegas area Not sure if it works in Canyon areas or city with lot of high rise |
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Moko Unregistered guest | If interested Alpine rep just told me this will be out March-ish for the IVA-D310. http://www.alpine-usa.com/en/products/product.php?model=KCA-100BT |
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Unregistered guest | I am a die hard Alpine fan. I have the D310 head unit, N872A Nav, and Sirius satellite. Both of my antenna are mounted on the dash (way fwd out of site) on my avalanche. I am originally from Santa Ana and have since relocated to FL. The Alpine Nav system rocks. I have been cross country twice and I have yet to have an issue. The one selling point they dont use and should is that by added the N872 you get an easier to use remote and now your whole system is voice controlled. My next test is the KCA-100BT which should seamlessly add phone communications to my system. Well see on that one | |
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New member Username: DctPost Number: 1 Registered: Dec-05 | >I also have a question about the N872A voice recognition. Has any one been able to save an address with a voice command. IE... you can same your Home locaion so all you have to say is "Home" and it will go their. If you go to your save addresses screen their is an option to save a voice tag but it is grayed out. Has anyone else tried this? First, set the destination to your home by any method (either by address using the touch screen or remote or by address using voice commands). When you get to the Confirm Destination screen, select the "Options" button. Under the Select Option screen select the "Save as Home" button. You should now be able to set your destination home by just pressing the talk switch and saying "Go Home" (or just "Home" if you are really lazy). What may be even EASIER is, while you are parked at your house, press the talk switch and say "Save Current Location". The system will respond with "Current location saved in previous destinations list". Then ask for "Previous Destinations" and the location you just saved will be at the top of the list. Select that and you will be at the Confirm Destination screen. Proceed to the Options screen as before. |
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New member Username: DctPost Number: 2 Registered: Dec-05 | >the reason I'm buying this Nav system is because it the EXACT same unit as in the new ACURA RL Small point of order. The nav units in the Acura RL are very similar to the N872, however they are NOT exactly the same. |
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New member Username: TimsdeskPost Number: 1 Registered: Nov-06 | i have a nve-n852a with version 1.2 software. I contacted alpine this week and they said that the update software 2.0 i think, is avalible. my question is should i pay for the update. the older technology is fine but i want a system that has more than just the main roads on it. will the update give it to me. does anyone have a version of the software between 1.2 and 2.0 and is it better than what i have now. help |
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