Just an FYI for anybody (like me) who was waiting for the new models of the Premier 860 and 960. I emailed Pioneer and here was their reply: "Thank you for contacting Pioneer Electronics, Inc.
There is no Premier 970 or 870 due out. The 960 and 860 will be carried over.
Thank you"
That suc*s I thought I saw somewhere that there were going to be updates on all of their models. Guess not.