Silver Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Usa Post Number: 127 Registered: Dec-04 | I am seriously on the verge of crying lol...i have spend like 3 hours trying to use this thing and i finally got done(i thought) and it gave me a box smaller than my sub...im trying to build a box for a 10 inch eclipse aluminum model number 88100....the manual didnt really help and i used the Help button on winISD and it helped me...i thought....and well please if you are good at this will you please help me get the dimensions for a sealed or ported box that will be the absolute best....please...thank you soooo much...i will love the person who does this lol... |
Silver Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Usa Post Number: 131 Registered: Dec-04 | to the top guys |
Silver Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Usa Post Number: 135 Registered: Dec-04 | im going with a sealed box but i need dimensions someone please help me...PLEASE |
Silver Member Username: RedskinLondonEngland Post Number: 124 Registered: Dec-03 | So whats the exact problem you have then? Did you enter your subs parameters correctly? Is there such a thing as an absolute best best box? |
Silver Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Usa Post Number: 137 Registered: Dec-04 | i thought i did...but the box that came out was like smaller than the sub its self |
Silver Member Username: RedskinLondonEngland Post Number: 125 Registered: Dec-03 | What are your subs TS parameters then? |
Silver Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Usa Post Number: 139 Registered: Dec-04 | the what |
Silver Member Username: RedskinLondonEngland Post Number: 127 Registered: Dec-03 | Hmmmm......for winisd to work you need to enter the Thiele-Small parameters for your sub. These include things like fs,vas,xmax,qts,bl,re,le,pe and a bunch of others. The minimum you need for box caculation is fs,qts and vas. Contact your subs maker for these if you don't already have them. Best of luck. |
Anonymous | does anyone know how to match your subs box to your car interior volume for total sonic excellence? Does this even make any since? |
Anonymous | does anyone know how to match your subs box to your car interior volume for total sonic excellence? Does this even make any since? |
Silver Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Usa Post Number: 148 Registered: Dec-04 | yea i know i entered in as much info as i had...like most of that stuf....and for some reason the box came out extremely Small like i think smaller than the sub for some reason....i also dont know what each of those things are anyways....could you please tell me each of those things litterally are...thanks.... |
Gold Member Username: Jonathan_fGA USA Post Number: 3153 Registered: May-04 | "does anyone know how to match your subs box to your car interior volume for total sonic excellence? Does this even make any since?" You'd need an RTA. It can be done, it's just difficult to do. You'd have to build a box for a subwoofer that has a known frequency response in an anechoic (no cabin gain, just open air like a HUGE room) setup. Then, you'd put that box inside your vehicle to see how the car affects the frequency response due to cabin gain. After that, you could go on WinISD and setup a box optimized for that. Subfanatic, I can't find the T/S parameters to run WinISD, but just going off my head, around .65-.75 works well for those subwoofers. |
Silver Member Username: RedskinLondonEngland Post Number: 128 Registered: Dec-03 | If you entered "most of that stuff" just post it, then we can all enter it in to our favourite box designing programs and see what we get. http://www.diysubwoofers.org/define.htm Try this link for an explanation of TS parameters. |
Silver Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Usa Post Number: 150 Registered: Dec-04 | ok lets see this is was the book says lol size=10 inch DVC DC-R=3.1 horseshoe/coil Fs=26Hz Qts=0.4 Vas=2.10ft squared SPL/W/M=84.9Db QES=.513 Qms=5.6 Sd=.0357M squared thats all it say....it should all be right lol |
Silver Member Username: RedskinLondonEngland Post Number: 129 Registered: Dec-03 | Sealed 0.4-1.6cuft ported 1.5cuft@30/35hz to 3cft@23hz or higher to give you higher spl. When you say box is smaller than sub I assume you mean it predicted a box less than 2.1cuft? Rememeber to add the volume of the sub (about .1cft unless its got a massive magnet) and port to box volumes to end up with the total volume required. |
Silver Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Usa Post Number: 156 Registered: Dec-04 | i built a box today and i think it was somwhere around 1.6 maybe...guessing haha...no idea really lol...and its got a pretty massive magnet |