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Derek Armstrong Unregistered guest | Ok guys i'm looking to build a really nice system and I have plenty of cash. I'm pretty new to the car audio scheme so i was hoping i could use a few of your expert opinions. What is a really nice looking head unit with good features? What receiver would you guys reccomend? What equalizer? I drive a subaru wrx sti so i have limited space and i want to fitmy subs in the trunk. I was thinking 2 12W7's (maybe 13's... do you think theyll fit?) I was gonna go with Jl's pro box enclosures. What kind of amps will i need? 2 of the jl 1000/1's look like a prime choice. Will i need an extra battery? I was thinking maybe an optima. What kind of highs and tweeters would help equalize the bass? Thanks for any help i really appreciate it guys. Derek |
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Derek Armstrong Unregistered guest | Oh yeah I was wondering are there any other big boys out there that measure up to the w7 with better SQ? |
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Bronze Member Username: CoryCanada Post Number: 70 Registered: Jan-05 | i would think the mtx 9500 series would but ive never heard it in person |
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Derek Armstrong Unregistered guest | I heard the mtx has pretty good SQ from what i've read but it lacks power. I know it has 1500 watts but it doesnt hit as hard as the w7 from what ive read... can anyone clarify this for me? Also if u could help me out on my setup like i said i need an entire system. Thanks a lot guys Derek |
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Bronze Member Username: CoryCanada Post Number: 71 Registered: Jan-05 | you might find alot more help if you went into the caraudio part of the forum, i own mtx so i can't recommend any thing from jl sorry when you click on amps/subs,etc.. to the left it says car amps/subs,etc |
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New member Username: ClockDell Rapids, South dakota Minihaha Post Number: 1 Registered: Apr-05 | ya go fu*k ur mom |
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Gold Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Post Number: 1972 Registered: Dec-04 | the 9500 lacks sq and spl unless its in a Snail Shell Enclosure, its pretty weak, ON the MTX website it compares the 10 9500 properly powered, properly enclosed with a 10w7 and they are VERY similar, but the real difference in them is that, when the 9500 series goes up the specs and power of the sub doesnt, but the w7 line, or basically about any other line do go up and will outperform this sub. The only sub that MTX will be able to brag about will be the 22 inch jackhammer. it will be a pretty amazing sub. If your looking for subs to stack up against the (everything i say will be cheaper as well and will be better, not equal) W7 in sq, look at IDMAX, Eclipse AL, Jlw6v, in SPL, look at the RE MT, Eclipse TI, MTX Jackhammer(not released yet), RE prototype(not released yet), RE x.x.x, ummm there are alot. FOR BOTH look at the RE x.x.x and the ECLIPSE TI, the Ti will be better sounding and hit harder, the x.x.x will sound better, and hit slightly harder but requires more power than both of them and the TI requires the least for Hu's look into- Alpine, Pioneer Premier, and Eclipse Amps-Eclipse, JL i cant remember any Subs-Anything i Mentioned really. Wiring-knuconeptz Dont forget a new ALternator Capacitor-only get if you get the new alt, and they are all the same, rule of thumb 1 farad per 1000 watts am i forgeting anything! here are some suggestions Head Unit- Alpine CDA-9820XM $289.99 Wiring- Knuconcepts $100 Component Speakers- MB quarts $100-200 Component amp- JL e4300 $260 Sub(s)-2 12inch Eclipse Al 88120 models of course $230 each $500 for both DVC 4 ohm Sub Amp- Ednine.1 fun at 1 ohm giving you 1200 watts rms 600 to each sub(subs highly underrated) $350 this would be a great sounding system! comes to like 1710, but i overpaid for everything here so you would save some, and you still need a box, but this would be amazing CD5425 eclipse @ cartoys 269.98 jbl gto 1201.1 289 ebay indo audio eclipse ti 12 319 ebay ported box 75 so you are at 950 ish before installation although that car toys price may include installation aslo this head unit is sirius compatible and i dont think the 5444 is |
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Gold Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Post Number: 1977 Registered: Dec-04 | oh yea, on the subs i did mention but didnt give prices, here they are, if you have questions feel free to ask, or email me, bebuzzin11@hotmail.com , and my aim name is nushaganazad but here is RE's price list This is for their 2004 line-up RE8- $49 RE10- $59 RE12- $69 SE10- $149 SE12- $169 SE15- $199 SX10- $239 SX12- $249 SX15- $269 SX18- $309 XXX10- $359 XXX12- $369 XXX15- $399 XXX18- $429 MT10- $409 MT12- $419 MT15- $449 MT18- $479 there is a $25 charge to upgrade the MT or TripleX line to a quad voice coil configuration. umm lets see what else did i mention ok here is eclipse prices Eclipse Ti 15-like 350-500, 500 from woofersetc.com, 379 from electronicgiants.com, this is where i got mine, and its prolly THE best sub i mentioned. the 12 is like 325-350 15 inch Ti-350-500 12 inch Ti-325-350 10 inch Al-230(do NOT get the eclipse al 7100 series get the 88100 MUCH better, 30 dollers more though) any thing else ill be glad to help |
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thumpin4u Unregistered guest | naw just get two 13w7, 2 1000,1 for bass. i agree with the rest. that is the best of both worlds and you know you be taken care of by jl.cause they have great wuarantees. that sh!t would certainly drill!!! |
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New member Username: RugerfanSacramento, California United States Post Number: 8 Registered: May-05 | 5K would about cover the velodyne DD-18. You will be happy but broke afterwards. |
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Unregistered guest | What do u think of the eclipse sw9182pro, sw9152pro,sw9152, sw9122 etc? they any good. |
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Gold Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Post Number: 3968 Registered: Dec-04 | AMAZING products |
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big roberto Unregistered guest | help me out here i want a top of the line system tell me what i need!!!! please!!!! |
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asdfdsfafds Unregistered guest | alpine type x's are teh way to go |
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New member Username: AudiobahnguyPost Number: 2 Registered: Jul-05 | get a 10,000 watt peak amplifier any kind u can find and bridge a MTX JACK HAMMER! |
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Silver Member Username: Touche6784Post Number: 450 Registered: Nov-04 | can you people take this to the car section. its getting really annoying. |
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Anonymous | just get a rockford fosgate |
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Anonymous | how much is the mtx jackhammer that was on mtv last night? |
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New member Username: AudiobahnguyPost Number: 8 Registered: Jul-05 | the retail price is $5000 for that 22" jack hammer,but we should take this to the car audio section before something happens. |
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Anonymous | Well i need some pro help. I need to find a good sound sys for my room under a $1200. Any 1 have any ideas on a good amp n woofers n stuff? ps: More than 350watts least. |
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Unregistered guest | If You want true SQ then go with Focal Speakers and audison amps (hand made in italy). That will give you the best SQ you can get. Point blank. |
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Unregistered guest | If you really want to design a kick as* system email me and I'll help ya out. |
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memphis mojos Unregistered guest | I wouldnt go with the JL 7's personally...if u want a system louder than 2 13inch JL 7's for the same price...go with 2 12inch M3MOJO's and trust me..u will be happy!copy and paste that site and there are your mojos! i know a guy that had 2 mojos and he blew out his windshield. these r some great subs |
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Silver Member Username: GavincummPost Number: 279 Registered: Feb-05 | for SQ, I would reccomend Morel, which are STUNNING for car audio, with a pair of Eminent Technology Planar tweeters. That would rival some home systems. |
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Anonymous | I am looking to purchase some type of 13.5" sub for my jeep. Can anyone recomend the best type sub for the for the least or best price?... |
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Unregistered guest | I got one 12"W7 that's powered by an MTX 81000D THUNDER, and the sub sits in the sickest enclosure ive ever seen. All plexiglass enclosure made to the specs on the owners manual,the whole thing weighs about 110 Lbs. There's also a 'JL' logo carved out of plexiglass gaurding the woofer that was screwed on with 6" bolts. My Power wire is a 0'gauge or something, its an inch wide. All the components match up in quality. But that box is what I think makes all there difference. I have it strapped to my back bumper (inside the trunk) using mechanical restraints both parrallel and horizontal to were it just sits there and dumps out the deepest bass I've ever heard.I have to fold down atleast one of the back seats at all times, preferably the the seat behind the passenger because the port on the box hit the back seat behind me,its a 2 door 97'Dodge Avenger.You can here me coming from a 1/4 mile away. I only meant to complement JL's W7, and MTX's Thunder Amps, most importantly, whoever made that plexiglass box. |
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Unregistered guest | i would go with 2 13w7. 2 1000/1 jl amps. ull b hitting high numbers and sounding good doing it. dont go with kicker cuz they are loud but sound crappy and they dont last very long. myself i run 2 12" rockford p3. |
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j diddy Unregistered guest | Well if you are wanting some bad azz speakers you could try matts audio juggernauts,cerwin vega strokers, or personally my favorite soundstream xxx.(they have best sq with amazing bass). If you purchase alarge watt mono amp like the st 6500 watt mono amp or something of that nature you could drop your ohms and independence levels to make your amp work less and hit harder. jls are a awesome brand but thereare alot of high-end speakers out there. Another company to look at is phoenix gold, they have been in the game for a long time. Good luck picking a system i wish i had a crap load of money to blow!! |
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Anonymous | How does the new 12" Kicker L7 stand up against the 12w7 from JL??? |
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Unregistered guest | Hey, Well If U guys want somting better than the JL W7s GO with THe MTX 9500 It Blows The JL AWAY !!! and a few pointers for the Guy with the subaru WRX GO Buy some COmponents speakers like 4 and buy about 2 pairs of tweeters and put them in the back and front, TO get clear Highs Get an amp to power the tweeters and Ur mids{COMPONENTS} if u get regular speakers they will easily distort . . . If ur buying 2 JL W7 13in . Make a custom enclosure to make more space available and if u cant make a custom box Idunno lol just do sumting Get a deck with a built in EQ so u dont have to spend extra for an equalizer . Um POwer the Suba about 70% of the peak power . . . well thats all the tips i have for u MAN and IF U GUYS WANT A GOOD SUB GO WITH THE JLS lol if u wanna Kill a JL go With MTX 9500 If U Guys want PURE SPL Get the Cerwin Vega STROKER PRO . . . And If u Guys like SQ AND SPL WITH GOOD LOOKS go with The Kicker solo X and L7s K guys Peace |
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Anonymous | Um Audio Heads MTX Jackhammer Is Awesome And the JL audiuo is comming with a New SUB JL PRO AUDIO W13 5000watts RMS and 10000watts Peak Um . . . 20 in like the Jackhammer And is about 250 LB without the magnet cover and 280 with the magnet cover . . |
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Bronze Member Username: N8d1Baltimore Post Number: 41 Registered: Jan-06 | 280 lbs! That's crazy. Sure, your ride might sound great but you wont be able to get it's butt movin' with all that additional weight. :-) |
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Silver Member Username: YukhuiMyrtle Beach, South Carolina USA Post Number: 285 Registered: Jan-06 | Has anybody noticed that he Jackhammer was hitting around 130 dB's in that video? I just read about a pair of 6.5" Tang Bands doing around 131 dB's with 100 watts. I'm just saying there are WAY better deals for the money, the Jackhammer sucks. |
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Gold Member Username: NuckParkhill, Ontario Canada Post Number: 1720 Registered: Dec-04 | I recommend a Rotel rb985 for the hammers, I run them in my closet at HOME |
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Gold Member Username: NuckParkhill, Ontario Canada Post Number: 1721 Registered: Dec-04 | You may also try the new Macintosh amps, also in use at my HOME STEREO. |
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Gold Member Username: NuckParkhill, Ontario Canada Post Number: 1722 Registered: Dec-04 | Velodyne PL12 is a very good sub with bass management for the HOME STEREO enthusiest |
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Gold Member Username: NuckParkhill, Ontario Canada Post Number: 1723 Registered: Dec-04 | Lowest bass is not the only consideration for HOME Audio listening |
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Gold Member Username: NuckParkhill, Ontario Canada Post Number: 1724 Registered: Dec-04 | Dual subs can be useful for filling spots in a LIVINGROOM |
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Gold Member Username: NuckParkhill, Ontario Canada Post Number: 1725 Registered: Dec-04 | Aseperate amplifier can be used to power passive subs in a HOME THEATRE |
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Gold Member Username: NuckParkhill, Ontario Canada Post Number: 1726 Registered: Dec-04 | Powered subs are very common in a HOME THEATRE |
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Gold Member Username: NuckParkhill, Ontario Canada Post Number: 1727 Registered: Dec-04 | 10" powered subs are very ffective in the HOME |
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Gold Member Username: NuckParkhill, Ontario Canada Post Number: 1728 Registered: Dec-04 | Do you detect a co-incidance here? |
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Silver Member Username: DavidpaPortland, Oregon US Post Number: 156 Registered: Nov-05 | well said nuck! |
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Bronze Member Username: Jeffless600Post Number: 56 Registered: Feb-06 | Forget the jackhammer..its actually 369lbs from the mtx website and is ACTUALLY $7900.000 dollars... and needs a TRUCK/SUV to fit in properly. Its for show.. |
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Gold Member Username: CenusHicksville, Ohio Usa Post Number: 1477 Registered: Jan-05 | WTF, how the he11 is this thread still alive, it started all the way back in januaray. |
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Bronze Member Username: Custom_boxesPost Number: 55 Registered: Mar-06 | fock them jls go get the new re xxx cheaper an i hear there better |
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Bronze Member Username: Ryanshaw3ballPost Number: 12 Registered: Mar-06 | THE MTX JACKHAMMER IS A HORRIBLE choice. you could buy 3 or 4 18" re mt's and some really good amps for half of what the jackhammer cost by itself. |
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New member Username: ShortysetniesPost Number: 10 Registered: Mar-06 | Subfanatic said to buy from Indo Audio... DON'T. Read this , https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/car-audio/210729.html, to find out why. I have been screwed over by them and I am not the only one. Plenty of other people say the same. It has been almost 4 months and I still don't have what I bought. Just tryin to look out for everyone. DO NOT BUY FROM INDO AUDIO!!!! |
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Silver Member Username: LewassBoomfield Hills, MI USA Post Number: 396 Registered: Jan-06 | SUBFANATIC RIPS EVERYONE OFF - BE WARNED |