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New member Username: JjevansGreenville, Michigan USA Post Number: 1 Registered: Feb-10 | This is my 1st post so please bear with me. I recently purchased a 96 Civic Coupe. Audio was terrible so I went really cheap (anything would have been an improvement). Found a Pioneer DEH-P3100UB (22rms) for 80 bucks and Pioneer TS-A-6962 6x9s for 30 bucks. The sound from a $110 system blew me away. Super low and rich bass with some power behind it too. I don't see an amp in my future because this thing is plenty loud already. Some people think I have a sub in the trunk! In the past, the 6.5 door speakers never seemed to add much. But since I have such a good start and the car is setup from the factory for component fronts, I now want to more carefully select the last set of speakers. I've done some research and have come up with some components that may or may not be good choices. I've tried to stay away from high rms/low sensitivity/high impedance combinations because of power limitations that I have no intention of addressing. I want to stay fairly low in price but added a couple mid level sets because they had high sensitivity and/or low impedance so my deck just might push them. I don't care if it pushes them to their potential. I just don't want muddy sound at moderately high volume. Yes, I have high and low pass filters at my disposal with this HU. Below is my list: Sony XS-GTX1620S. 5-60rms, 88db@1w, 40Hz-22KHz, 4 ohms, $46. Alpine SPE-17CS. 35rms, 91db@1w, 35Hz-25KHz, ?ohms, $85. JBL P660c. 90rms, 94db@1w, 45Hz-23KHz, 2 ohms, $129. Focal Access 165A1. 60rms, 92db@1w, 60Hz-20KHz, ?ohms, $190. I'm leaning Alpine or JBL but feel free correct me. I wonder not only about the price of the Focals, but about their narrow frequency response as well. Maybe I'd never miss the lows because the Pioneers hit 28Hz and my ears possibly won't discern above 20kHz? Oh yeah, I'm open to new suggestions too. Thanks. |
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New member Username: WgrubbsPost Number: 1 Registered: Feb-10 | I'm doing research like you, everything i am finding tells me to drop the rear speakers for sound imaging quality.. So though it seems weird to me esp since i like watching dvds in the car i am going with 200-300 set of fronts instead of 200-300 worth of back and fronts, so ill have front components and a small sub in the rear. |
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New member Username: CwruckPost Number: 9 Registered: Feb-10 | go with the alpines, they will suite your needs of not running an amp.. i would stay away from the jbl and focal because that is getting high in price just to waste potential. I hate running speakers on the head unit but i can understand where your coming from, your just trying to get a good sound without having to spend $500 to have a slightly better sound, so the alpines will work for you. But to tell you the truth i highly doubt your pioneers are getting as low as 28 hz... they may hit that frequency but i dont think you can really hear it at all, and definitely cant feel the bass. but if im wrong thats great for you! |
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New member Username: CwruckPost Number: 10 Registered: Feb-10 | also check out mb quart. i know they have some decent components for like $45. i think they are the the fsa216 or something like that. im pretty sure they end in 216 |
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New member Username: BloodforgePost Number: 9 Registered: Mar-10 | Friend of mine has these kickers running off of HU only power and they sound reasonable good with good mid bass, fairly effecient 6 1/2 and descent sounding tweeters. They only run 79.99 Shipped. http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_8768_Kicker+DS650.2.html |
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Platinum Member Username: GlasswolfColumbia, SC USA Post Number: 12764 Registered: Dec-03 | honestly? on head unit power, pretty much every speaker in teh world is going to sound about the same. You won't get any real brilliance from a speaker without being able to provide ample, clean power with plenty of reserve, and that requires a dedicated amplifier with a good power supply in it. If you have no intention of buying an amp to drive the door speakers, then just buy the cheapest speakers you can find and live with it. |
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Silver Member Username: Jwbulger79Florida Post Number: 530 Registered: Nov-04 | not that any post by GlassWolf needs my validation, but i 100% agree with his comment above. Power is key. If you can swing $300-$400, you can get a 2-channel amp (40-75 watts RMS per channel), an amp kit, and a decent set of components, and put together a nice sounding front stage, but it all starts with the amp. That setup alone will put out 100x more bass than your head unit powered speakers could ever dream of. There's not much improving on what you have now unless you get an amp. Just hang tight, save your money, and when you have $300-$400, make the leap and you'll never look back. oh yeah, and stay away from Sony car audio stuff. in general, it's junk. |