Archive through June 28, 2004
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the voice Unregistered guest | myself or others cannot find any link at |
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Anonymous | You will find that if you: 1) get an IRC client from www.mirc.com 2) join an undernet server using the command /server us.undernet.org 3) join #dsstech using the command /join #dsstech that there is a thriving community discussing these topics LIVE. |
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Bronze Member Username: SkullsPost Number: 28 Registered: May-04 | Some good news there is still hope. He called me and walked me through everything. The loader seemed to be working properly and doing everything that it should be doing, but I don't believe I have an ISO loader to see if this is real or not. So hang in there. |
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tusf Unregistered guest | the voice when you go to cpwave's site you click on cpwave page 3 (the other day it said page 2) and you get to |
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Bronze Member Username: ElgringoviegoPost Number: 38 Registered: Jun-04 | Dennis -- let's try this: I believe you said you have 8 files, including the 3M. Post the titles or names of each of the files (or somehow identify them if you can). Someone on this site can tell you how to load them, and in what order, or even if you need a particular file. (For example, one of the files you received was a bin file. You probably already have a bin file installed and won't need to use the new one. Also, another of the files was a WinEx 5.5, I believe you said; if you already have WinEx 5.0 maybe you won't need to install that one, either.) Do you see where I'm going? If there's any validity at all to satthouse's offer, they'd have to send the entire package to any buyer because they'd have to assume that the buyer isa first-timer and didn't have anything. Try it, Good Buddy. |
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skyhawk Unregistered guest | Dennis, why can't you just forward the files to someone that has an ISO loader? Let them test it and get back to you. | |||
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Bronze Member Username: ElgringoviegoPost Number: 39 Registered: Jun-04 | Well, a day late and a dollar short. Sorry, Dennis, but I posted that last comment before seeing your latest "good news" comment. You said that you have a h-card loader. That's ISO, but maybe not good enough. Keep the faith...and I know you will. Ken |
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CK Unregistered guest | Sorry to be a pain here, but is a Mikobu III M6.2 the proper loader for the P4"s? Thank you in advance for any answer on the matter. CK |
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Anonymous | ck dont be a smmuck.nobody knows which loader until the p4/5 hack comes out...everybody scamming right now | |||
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CK Unregistered guest | Gee, I apologize for my "smmuckosity" but earlier I read posts stating that people weren't sure if they had the right equipment. I was just asking man..that's how you learn. Geez  CK |
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Bronze Member Username: ElgringoviegoPost Number: 40 Registered: Jun-04 | CK -- Ignore Anonymous. That's why he's anonymous. From all indications you're going to need an ISO loader, and a simple flash might do the trick for your Mikobu, but for right now don't buy/do/change anything. Ken |
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Bronze Member Username: ElgringoviegoPost Number: 41 Registered: Jun-04 | CK -- Ignore Anonymous. That's why he's anonymous. From all indications you're going to need an ISO loader, and a simple flash might do the trick for your Mikobu, but for right now don't buy/do/change anything. Ken |
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Bronze Member Username: HackmanSpartaburg, S.C. United States Post Number: 66 Registered: May-04 | Bandit yes you are correct in what you said. These boxes are gold. They have never been hit and will never be hit. Good luck in finding one. Miss my tv: Go to 3msprivatedss.com and scroll down and you will see Dishnet support very good prices and an awesome place to do business. Thats where I get all my stuff. Plus equipment: Dssstuff.ca is a good place for merchandise. So how do you go wrong. Buy support for Dish, then get a jtag reader and quad iso programmer with dual switches 3.57 and 3.68 and bam you can do dish and the rumored p4's with same equipment how do you go wrong. Win win situation. BUT HONESTLY I HAVE A MODEL 270O AND IT HAS TAKEN UPDATES TO READ LIKE A 2800 AND IT WORKS FLAWLESSLY. LOTS OF PEOPLE GOT ECMED TUESDAY AND MINE STILL WORKS LIKE A CHARM. Spoke with many people while getting some extra boxes done to sell and these folks haven't had theirs done in over 6 months. they said they average from 4 to 9 months eveytime. |
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Bronze Member Username: HackmanSpartaburg, S.C. United States Post Number: 67 Registered: May-04 | For you not happy about not NFL Sunday ticket with dish. No big deal. When you get a dish done it gets so many local channels that you still can watch all the games but it won't be thru Sunday Ticket. You will just be watching it through thier local broadcast. So you still get the same games... And dish has something called Dishnet Ticket. And they have all sorts of sports ppv channels which will carry a lot of games also. |
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mcvolfan Unregistered guest | tusf the link does not take you to dsscentral but the files section does. Voice i am also a member at central, so what gives? | |||
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Bronze Member Username: HackmanSpartaburg, S.C. United States Post Number: 68 Registered: May-04 | So if you have the resources and the heart too switch you won't be disappointed. I am and will be forever a Dtv supporter, fan, and fellow hacker. But in the mean time the saying goes a dog even knows to get out of the rain, Well a tv lover of sports and ppv must have tv, even if it means switching brands, yoou switch brands. | |||
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Bronze Member Username: HackmanSpartaburg, S.C. United States Post Number: 69 Registered: May-04 | ||||
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tusf Unregistered guest | mcvolfan you're 100% right but my point is still valid about there being some type of connetion. like you said what gives? | |||
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dss dork Unregistered guest | walter do you have a digital lock installed | |||
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Anonymous | i guess kenneth david knoes everything,hes the only one with the p4/5 hack...everyone listen to ken david.you will still be on this site for months to come talking about the same things..p4/5 is not coming..your living in a dream world | |||
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New member Username: Greg_kPost Number: 2 Registered: Jun-04 | Walter, what would be the best Dishnet system to buy to receive all the local channels to watch NFL games? What would be the price range for something like this? | |||
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tusf Unregistered guest | i'm all for hacking any type of television service available to me. the more channels i have the happier i am. i have them all dish, bev, cable and subbed dave, but it still hurts to see walter giving up so quickly and pitching dish like there's no tommorow. | |||
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Bronze Member Username: ElgringoviegoPost Number: 42 Registered: Jun-04 | Anonymous--you are anonymous and rude and you are to be ignored. A pox be on you! |
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Bronze Member Username: HackmanSpartaburg, S.C. United States Post Number: 71 Registered: May-04 | The price range also depends own where you live also I guess. Average for a dish box card and programmed with remote here is $300.00 to $400.00 pending own who you know. The dish itself is from $75.00 to $ 100.00 bucks and the remotes run $30.00. I havn't giving up own Dtv: I spend the whole week while I am out of town working Mon. thru Thurs. 3 to 4 hrs a night trying to figure out a backdoor around these cards. The most I have had one to run is 3hrs wideopen. I have fried quite a few cards. So I am doing my homework don't worry. |
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Bronze Member Username: HackmanSpartaburg, S.C. United States Post Number: 72 Registered: May-04 | Personally Greg all the boxes are good that I mentioned but me myself I have a 2700 and my couseing has a 301-10 and a 3900 and all three work great. The dish to have is a Dish 500. It has the built in switch to receive both 119 and 110 degrees to receive all channels available. Plues it is a dual Lnb. But the best is a 7200 if your lucky enough to get one. | |||
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Bronze Member Username: HackmanSpartaburg, S.C. United States Post Number: 73 Registered: May-04 | No dork I don't have a digital lock installed just a few blocker patches is what was done to mine. But if I do stay with Dish I will have a Tsop lock put in my box. If you have the method and understand the technique in doing it I wouldn't hesitate installing one. | |||
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Bronze Member Username: HackmanSpartaburg, S.C. United States Post Number: 74 Registered: May-04 | 1000 2000 3000 dp301-10 dp301-13 2700 2800 3700 3800 3900 4000 5000 501 6000 6100 6200 7100 7200. Greg the dp301-13 has a sticker in the front on the top kinda near the right of the box on the inside stuck to the board. From left to right the 3rd letter needs to read from A-I if the 3rd letter is a J more than likely it will have to have a video modification done to it and its cost $65.00 to do that and have it programmed which still isn't bad. But after modified one time then the price goes back to 40 bucks. And thats J-Z for the video modification. Can get box card programmed for 225. Dishes are anywhere from 50 to 100 bucks pending own where you get one. New I paid 84 dollars for one from a dishnet store. Remotes run 30 bucks also. |
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Bronze Member Username: SkullsPost Number: 29 Registered: May-04 | TELL ME HOW AND WHO TO SEND FILES TO. i'LL BE HAPPY TO, THIS WAY WE WILL KNOW. WHO HAS A GOOD ISO AND CAN HELP ME THRU SENDING THEM. I'M IN AND OUT TODAY SO I AM AND WILL BE A LITTLE BEHIDE GETBACK TO ALL |
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the voice Unregistered guest | Dsscentral has NO knowledge or association with Cpwave..and does NOT endorse it or their claims...its that simple..who knows why cpwave linked to our Files area,maybe cause they don't have a forums,chat,or files section of their own.. | |||
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Bronze Member Username: TvlonelyPost Number: 54 Registered: Jun-04 | Dennis - I've got an ISO. If you have instructions with the files, I'll give it a try. You might want to send them to 2 or 3 guys. | |||
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New member Username: Monty_ohanahPost Number: 10 Registered: Jun-04 | Hi, guys. Looks like I missed a lot since last night, huh? At least there is still a glimmer of hope. Leslie, I'm sure that you know this already, but you do stand a chance of looping the card or causing outher problems with it. Whoever does this should have a couple P5's available just in case. Personally, I only have P4 since that was what all the original talk was about. Ordered a P5 off Ebay last week & haven't gotten it yet, so I won't be of much help at this point as far as trying it goes. Keep us posted. | |||
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LEGION..many are we Unregistered guest | Ive got an Absolute 1 premium edition..4 in 1 combo loader.Can anyone tell me is this classed as an ISO loader if I need it to work on the P5 down the road? I just got into this hobby b4 they cut the signal and am not to familuar with the hardware.But i have been reading lots here in this forum....Thankx guys | |||
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Bronze Member Username: More2itPost Number: 15 Registered: May-04 | CK I have several ISO's and a Mikobu III. You will probably be able to flash the Mik and pull the jumper and make it work but nobody knows for sure. There are lots of good ISO reader / writter / repair units out there and they are cheap if you don't buy them thru sattelite dealers. They are perfectly legal to own if you buy them that way also. I would look into purchasing one just in case. You can always use it for other stuff...copying you phone sim chip, writting to it... etc. |
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Bronze Member Username: More2itPost Number: 16 Registered: May-04 | Legion crack open that bad boy and see if it has an Atmel chip - AT90S2313-10PI or a AT90S8515-8PI inside. If it does you need to do a search and you can find out the dip settings for turning it into an ISO |
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miami' number one Unregistered guest | for who is concern i know someone that has had more information on the p4-p5 card and he says that if you hold up with your money invesments on programing till july 11th there will be great programming and the unloper will be finished.he has done this for seven years and remember guys miami florida is 1 50,000 people hacking wide assho- e dave!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |||
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the voice Unregistered guest | copy and paste.. There is a lot of talk going around about the possibility of using an ISO Programmer to work with the P4/P5/D1 cards. There are a lot of peeps who do not know the difference between an ISO Programmer and a Loader (were not around for H card days). So here is a quick reference for ya's. LOADERS: Loaders first showed up in the H card days and were originally designed to unloop H cards. They are still sometimes referred to as "Unloopers" by experienced testers. Loaders require some smarts. They employ a micro controller (loaders are embedded devices). A Micro controller manufacturer named ATMEL makes some great micro controllers which, because of their single cycle op code capabilities, have become the tester's preferred controller chip. The ATMEL AT90S2313 series micro controllers have a flashable EEPROM, which makes updating quick and easy. You can see where the terminology has all come from in this hobby... "Atmel, loader, unlooper, flash... ect" How loaders work: Loaders work by counting the clock cycles after resetting the card and causing the cards supply voltage to drop below 2.5Vdc at the opportune time. This is called "Glitching". When the card's supply voltage is below 2.5Vdc, it cannot create a logical "1". (5V digital circuits require >2.4Vdc to create a logical 1). If you want the data in a particular address to be 0x00, then you would glitch the card when the processor reads that particular address. No matter what value is in that location, it will be read as a 0x00. BASIC RULE: Loaders/Unloopers use "Glitch" technology to force their way in and write to a card. ISO PROGRAMMERS: ISO7816 is a standard that establishes and governs the physical size and pad layout of the cards used by NDS and other companies all over the world. All the cards used by DTV are physically the same, although the controller chips inside them differ greatly. An ISO Programmer is a device which interfaces a PC to an ISO7816 compliant card for communication purposes. It contains only 3 basic components: 1) RS232 interface 2) 3.58MHz clock source 3) Card socket There is no need for any smarts and therefore no need for a micro controller (ATMEL). All it does is connect the data IO line from the card to the Data TX & RX line of the Comm port and supply a clock source to run the card. Your PC does all the talking to the card. IN REVIEW: 1) A Loader is an embedded glitching device containing its own micro controller. It uses Voltage Glitching techniques to force its way into an ISO7816 compliant card. Loaders are fairly complex devices. 2) An ISO Programmer is an interface which allows your PC to talk directly to an ISO7816 compliant card. A programmer is an extremely simple device which can be quickly made at home. If you have a loader, it will probably (depends upon which loader you've got) be possible to acquire a FLASH (Program) for its ATMEL which will basically turn off all glitching and make it act like a simple programmer. |
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tusf Unregistered guest | i know it's not much of a post, but i just talked to my buddy and will be going with him to the store (on the reserve) on monday. he only returned the message i left him a few minutes ago. i know only the name of the store, no phone or address. when there's more useful info to post i will. | |||
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Haaaaaaaaaaaaaah Unregistered guest | no dtv and beer make Homer go something, something | |||
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Bronze Member Username: HackmanSpartaburg, S.C. United States Post Number: 76 Registered: May-04 | P4/D1 to be swapped out next sumer for the new Gold cards C&P from another site! Some more bad news for testers of DTV out there. DTV and NDS announced a new 6 year contract on March 6th as we all know. In several other docments, agreements and stock holder meetings being reported by The Wall Street Journal now, DirecTV via new owner Murdock is making some MAJOR changes fast now. They have developed a new card for DTV which is gold or yellow in color and is being called "The Gold Card" now by the Underground and the NDS Media PR. It is out now in Beta testing with a few selected very secretive DirecTV users. I have yet to see it but have heard of this card for a few months now as being real and is now confirmed by some who have seen the card it is real and does exist. Hope to get a picture soon of it but this thing is really being kept under wraps by DTV and NDS now. Here also is a press release a couple days ago by NDS that is also futher Intriguing. Seems PIRACY for DTV is coming to a major slowdown even more now with this new NEWS and things to be. They are saying they hope to have this new card in complete operation and exchange by NEXT SUMMER at latest. Well, thats it for now but this card is most likely based on the same unhacked card being used in Europe the past two years and now in Australia and no one as of yet has hacked into it in any shape, way or form. Appears DTV has finally got things right with the cards now even more so than with the P4/D1. SO anything with current DTV cards now that may come out or is out in the underground deep down somewhere it will all be short lived. __________________ See instead of being called a p6 its the dreaded gold card. |
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Bronze Member Username: HackmanSpartaburg, S.C. United States Post Number: 77 Registered: May-04 | Sorry but I really didn't want to be the bearer of bad news. So even if the hack comes out and we buy new equipment it will not last long enough to enjoy. | |||
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Bronze Member Username: TvlonelyPost Number: 55 Registered: Jun-04 | Interesting...Saathouse is now Paypal verified. I don't know if they've got a hack or not but now they have a slight bit of crediblity in my book. | |||
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the voice Unregistered guest | I would stay away from both cpwave.net and satthouse.com...both are obvious scammers...cpwave linked to dsscentral files area without authorization...here is atr-killer's (dsscentral's site owner) response to the dsscentral members when asked about cpwave.. ......................................... we are not associated with that site in any way, they have linked to our archive using public urls that we ourselves use to link them for you guys. We were not aware until this evening that this site was linking to our file archive. We have sent them an e-mail asking them to desist copying our site style and links .................................. any site that has to link to another due to lack of their own files,obviously has no credability and definitely NO P4 hack!...so be careful out there...the voice |
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tusf Unregistered guest | walter from what i've heard, both dish and bev are soon going to be switching their networks from nagravision 1 to nagra 2. if that's true, then the way we currently hack them will be invalid aswell. seems like their really working hard to screw us, meaning we all have to work harder and pray. | |||
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Bronze Member Username: ElgringoviegoPost Number: 43 Registered: Jun-04 | Walter Brown--They can come out with the Gold Card in the summer of 05, but the swap will take two years to complete just as it did with the P4/P5, if not longer because they'll have a lot more customers to contend with than they did beginning two years ago. Leslie jones -- I believe satthouse has something too. They stayed w/Dennis through to "completion" as far as they were concerned, but the Good Guy Dennis didn't have the right equipment and/or technical savvy to make it work. I don't know who the most qualified person in our Chip-In Group is, but it's not Dennis, myself or yourself. Further, Dennis might not get his money back because Satthouse sent him just what they said they would, so be prepared to reimburse him. Have you noticed that some really smart guys are the biggest nay-sayers with regard to DTV, and not-so-coincidentally most of them are from the dss.central/dss.community who seem to be pushing Dish, and doing a good job. |
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Bronze Member Username: John4949Post Number: 20 Registered: Jun-04 | Dishnet is switching too? Damn...I was starting to warm up to the idea... As for nfl games. I live in Texas but the team i like to watch is in California...I got a few California local channels last season but rarely got the 49ers game(used nfl ticket instead)..California has 3 NFL teams so sometimes its difficult to get the channel with the 49ers game on. |
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Bronze Member Username: John4949Post Number: 21 Registered: Jun-04 | Voice, "John...share a DTV subscription with your family and/or buds....order PPV's and NFL Sunday ticket online via directv.com site and then all IRD's and sharer's can view.." How does ordering that stuff online allow me to help others???? |
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Bronze Member Username: John4949Post Number: 22 Registered: Jun-04 | Dennis and Walter, Thanks for the info.. |
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Bronze Member Username: HackmanSpartaburg, S.C. United States Post Number: 78 Registered: May-04 | The only card going out in the near future is the Rom 3. Every other card is still going to be up and kicking. Looking at about 6 to 9 months before the Rom 3 is killed. But guess what don't matter their is still Rom 2 and Rom 10. And if your guys are as smart as mine. They already have a way around all that. These guys created their own card so unless they kill the data stream, the people around here will still have tv. But if you have done your homework the only reason the Gold card is coming out is because Dish, and Dtv are going to have to use the same Satellite to send out the signal for tv reception. Appointed by the federal Government. And also when the Rom 3 card goes down that is the same thing that the FTA receivers are using. I know their not using a card but the technology is based own the Rom 3 and when it goes so Does FTA. Or to wwhom Free to Air. Silver Bullet and Pansat receivers. |
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Bronze Member Username: HackmanSpartaburg, S.C. United States Post Number: 79 Registered: May-04 | Tusf if you have paid attention the process started a while back when the 311 receiver come out with no card. And also the new yellow and blue card. These two in particular still haven't been hacked. Say it is possible that the yellow blue card will never be done. They say the card less receivers are very much capable of programming but will take further measures of testing to know. |
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tusf Unregistered guest | dennis if no one's able to help you with the files satthouse sent you, i know plenty of people that have the know how and access to any type of hardware needed to rock and roll. i have a friend that works for load@home and another dealer/friend that has the most amazing software programmer who had been writing great private hu and h 3ms for years. let me know. | |||
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Bronze Member Username: SkullsPost Number: 30 Registered: May-04 | Hey guy just got in had a very nice time was on a Harley run. I'll send the files to a few people that have different ISOs The way mr3m had me set them up there 5 files in one folder once you open up the 1 folder and go to the one with the 100 on it a window pops open you put the card in and you press unloop take 10 seconds then you check the 2nd box from the top and press load 10 more second.It seemed to work fine.but now i'm really confused after what the Voice said about loaders and ISO. So i'll put this in as many hand who wants to try.I need to know a name of a good ISO Or if it works for one of you's i'll get that one. hopeful with a few people ISOING this we will know for sure today eather way Till later. |
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Simple Minded Unregistered guest | OMG.. I think I have a p4 hack. Let me test it and I'll get back to you. | |||
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CK Unregistered guest | Kenneth David, The Voice and poster as "none" thanks for the help and patience..it's really appreciated. This is great! CK |
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the voice Unregistered guest | A few points based upon some comments made here about either me or Dsscentral.. First of all Dsscentral is very active with Dish,Bev and FTA for the obvious reasons,cause its the only things working NOW!..why would we push DTV,we are not scammers!..We do still have a very active P4/D1 area and new P4/5 files to test,and do hope/expect the P4 to be hacked sometime,but NOT yet!...we provide options to TV,radio,movies,computers,etc..U decide what works best for U!....we do NOT "push" anything..and are NOT nay-sayers at all..if U say that then U really don't know much about our site!..we are a very positive,realistic site..we just don't encourage people to blow their money on every scam in town.. All satellite (Dss) sites/dealers are not thieves,turbodss.com sells a great iso (Mikobou) for under $50.. Sharing DTV subscriptions saves U,your family,and friends much money monthly..so u ask "how does that help others"?...huh?..I was simply letting U aware of that option since U want the NFL Sunday ticket and appeared to be disturbed about its cost and the need to subscribe to DTV..BTW,U're posts say nothing about "helping others"...U were only concerned about yourself and the NFL.. We at Dsscentral/Dsscommunity truly believe in reality...and sharing and helping in a postive way,thats why we are the BEST!..BTW,I endorse dsscentral cause these are all truths,not BS!..and this is not a "recruiting" thing,we have free membership and sponsors...I just want people to know the truth.. |
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Bronze Member Username: R_solePost Number: 35 Registered: Jun-04 | ~~~ can I get an Ahmen fr the voice~~~~~ | |||
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CK Unregistered guest | Voice: Thanks for the info on availible options...is Dish set up tog the way of the current P4 DTV situation in the near future? I though I had here or else where something about ot not being long before that also went down thus not to spend the money if you were a DTV user waiting for a P4 fix. Again, any info is appreciated. CK |
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Bronze Member Username: John4949Post Number: 23 Registered: Jun-04 | Voice: Perhaps i wasnt being clear. When i said "how does that help others?". What i mean is, How does ordering online vs ordering service over the phone allow me to share service with family and friends.. As for just thinking of myself? Making a bit a leap arent ya? You dont know me. If and when i finally get free tv again,Im gonna make sure my family and friends have access to the same. |
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Bronze Member Username: John4949Post Number: 24 Registered: Jun-04 | I simply want to know how i can share a current DTV subscription if i sign up for one. Im not sure why you were offended by my post. | |||
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Bronze Member Username: ElgringoviegoPost Number: 44 Registered: Jun-04 | John Davis -- What "the voice" meant was that you can subcribe to DTV and get multiple receivers/cards at about $5 a crack for each one of the extras; these extras can then be used in anyone elses' homes independently of the others. The voice can be cranky at times. Dennis--I'm gonna e-mail you. I have been trying to get 'hold of the the best on-line guy in the business right now, and he just got back to me this a.m. He'll help you: if it can be done, he'll get it done. CK -- Thanks for the thanks. |
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Anti_Dave_Tv_2004 Unregistered guest | Welcome to www.satthouse.com We know we will be your final destination for all your dss needs. There are a lot of scammers out there and we want to warn you not to jump into anything just because they said it worked. Here at www.satthouse.com we are an established name and have been around for quite a while. Check out what we have to offer. *************************************************************** We're proud to announce that we DO have a working P5 3m, We also have a loader to go along with it. Any ISO will work with our 3m. No, most likely your old loader will not work. If you want to order a loader from us that we know will work we can get you taken care of, But please refrain from asking us if your old loader will work. We have told you right here that unless it is an ISO loader it most likely will not. ********************************************************* We want you to know that we are much more than just a Dss site. We have also have support for cell phones too. All of our support packages for cell phones include "How To" instructions and long lasting "Ghost" numbers. All of our phone numbers assigned last on average of 4-6 months! Check them out for yourself. |
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Anti_Dave_Tv_2004 Unregistered guest | Ok guy's that is a copy and paste from the site listed in links ..for refference to anyone who doesnt know the P5/D1 is the HDTV version of the P4 . same theory with high def support and some tivo add-on's ..that being said ....Could this be real (?) naturally i am more than a little sceptical , as i'm sure you all are ..does anyone know anything about this site (?) not opinion or heresay ,hands on knowledge ..Cali777 .....Simple Minds ...Walter Brown ...the only 4 people i have previously conversed with that have a clue . ever deal with them or hear of anyone who has (?) wew all put our ears to the floor , use our personal resources .contacts ,info , cross check ..my opinion .as i noted P4-P5/D1 i basically the same demon .. the P5/D1 is HDTV ready with Tivo and DVR enhancments ) ( record HDTV to DVR with Tivo ) i asess they have found a way to dump the eeprom and acess the micro processor through faults and backdoors in the HDTV Tivo add on's in the P5/D1 ,this is evident by the release of only the P5/D1 compromise and not including the P4 in any way .Also the P5/D1 went out for the beta test "p4 been out for like 2 years " I still cant help but think this is another scam and is concurrent with the rumors surronding the bogus file that began circulation again ( some newbie wannabe hacker) of the file that communicates with eeprom and gives basic info on card status ...blah blah blah ... again no mention of P4 makes me wonder ..being all major sites and searches in general contain P4 alone and not P5/D1 could by a viable way of directing unwanted attention to the sites and end users in general ....keep it simple stupid ,as the old adage goes .run searches on the site name ..dig around .ask around .. email phone ( as i did and will continue to do ) All we can do is verify and remain optomistic and above all positive . in leu of getting windy i will rest it for now lmao ! ....remember ....to beat the best "Dave" you gotta be willing to test "Us" ... Cheers .....happy testing ... \M/ P.S. I havent written any opinion or educated guesses and or posted here or anywhere else in months ,simply because i had no pertinant information i deemed worthwhile to impart upon the masses ,,this may well be worth nothing at all ..lol....the dfeinition of "useless" story of life as a tester . all for the hobby ....dewd ! ....gods help me, i'm watching jesse lames and kid c0ck bike week special on discovery chanell ....ahahahahhaha i'm goin mad !!!!! .......Test on ....heh ) |
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Bronze Member Username: R_solePost Number: 36 Registered: Jun-04 | Anti... check the history, we have all been checking that out...a couple people have purchased it but ti does not look good...should know more in a day or 2 | |||
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mcvolfan Unregistered guest | dont think the p5,d1 and hdtv link have anything to do with the change from p4 to p5,d1. i have hdtv ird and p4 for 2 years now. could be wrong thoough. I personally think its a scam because their "hack" has been around for a while- long enough for their files or software or something would have leaked out by now. Or atleast someone that has got it working would be posting somewhere. news travels fast in the dss community. I recommend reading the forums over at dsscentral and you will learn all you need to know. | |||
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Jeff H Unregistered guest | Has anyone found a way to just clone a P4 or P5 card...I can get full blown subscribed cards to clone just need a program to read and write. | |||
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Anonymous | has anyone heard or tried 3moffshore.com they now say they have a fix taht is a 3m and not the boot strap thingy they had going on beofre.. i thought i read a while back that walter tried or knew someone who tried 3moffshore and it worked... all i need to knwo is if they are scammers or not? | |||
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miami' number one Unregistered guest | I dont need to prove nor care if any one believes but there is a hack. It requires a new loader and new flash file. Speed is SLOW I'll say that much. IT does glitch into the card at a weakponit while the card is doing checks. The hack has been around for a long time (atleast several months) Offered to dealers only this pint I know a 3 dealers that have it one has closed site and reopened (I think under a new name) after getting the hack. The price to dealers is around 25K. New interface, new scripts and THERE IS NO RELEASE OF ANY SORT of opcodes. AND THEY ARE DIFFERNT then hu how diff dont know but different for shure. If you want it it will be out in about 2 months to public and DAVE will be selling it cheapest!! Just remember you get what you pay for ;). As for the site that I belong to that has the hack well the price is about 1200 per member by INVITE ONLY! So not much luck getting it if we dont know who you are or a member cant vouch for you. This Keeps your sorry putz and sweaty shmuck out DAVE! | |||
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Anonymous | how do we get the site name etc? can we buy scripts off you? i woudl be willing to pay that mcuh as i kno wi could rebate it back off friends etc and split it up, but in order to do so i need some info?? | |||
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the voice Unregistered guest | JDavis,..maybe I misinterpreted U're post,sorry...shared subscriptions and ordering PPV or NFL online is free and then is shown on ALL receivers in the subscription...ordering via phone,costs extra money and I'm not sure if the PPV or whatever will just be available on your "main" IRD..ordering via the remote will ONLY allow that particular remote/IRD to get the programming..heres how to share a subscription,order as many IRD's and card as possible ($5 extra each per month)then give the IRD and married card to your family members or buds,then call DTV and they will "activate" the cards and IRD's,then if the subscription is $100 a month,just split the bill based upon the number of family/buds involved..I share a premium package (gets all channels) with 5 others..my bill is $17 per month,and we will do same for NFL ticket if no P4/5 hack is out by then..just keep phone unplugged and order PPV's ,sports etc "online".. Sorry if I appeared cranky,but am very proud and defensive of Dsscentral.. As far as Dish goes,U have a guy here who is very knowledgeable,Walter Brown...I have seen his posts and advice, I respect his posts..my understanding is Dish cards are going to be swapped out like DTV,but honestly I'm not a Dish guy,so ask Walter or visit Dsscentral forums or chat,U will get a straight answer from one of the Dish mods (eric,castaway or another)there...I'm still playing with DTV..who really knows how either DTV or Dish is going to go!..we just keep trying and testing,sharing whatever we can.. |
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New member Username: MedisPenticton, BC Canada Post Number: 1 Registered: Jun-04 | I just came across a P4 card at sell.com that is claimed to be a clone guaranteed for 9 months. Does anyone know if this is a scam? | |||
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New member Username: MedisPenticton, BC Canada Post Number: 2 Registered: Jun-04 | Actually, I forgot to mention that I am not really all that technically savy, but I am a depressed DTV user with severe withdrawal symptoms. I really want to buy a 'card' but I am confused by all of the conflicting info and don't want to buy a card if it would be totally useless. | |||
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AnonymousLY Unregistered guest | You are about to download the first P4/5 (there is no difference) "NON" BS script, that actually has some use for us, and opens the door for every P4/5 script to follow. This script repaired, but not originally written by my team, along with others that were written by my team (various geeks and Mods from all sites, sworn to release P4/5 software as "FREEWARE"), is the missing link all script writers have been looking for. "DAVE you are now "officially" "FU--ED". This script when conjoined with others we have in the making, will give us an unmarry script "Very Shortly". And then "VERY SHORTLY" after that release, start watching for Activations first & then 3ms. This script is like putting your HU card in Extreme and hitting: "Check Card Info". It tells you the illusive cam ID, how many PPVS, the complete card history, and much more. It is so much fun to run that I have spent all morning reading info off of P4s and 5s that I didn't know were good or not. You will love it! "Enjoy it" to those who had faith, and may those who were negative and said we wouldn't crack this card:"May you choke on it". Oh, P.S. use an ISO flashed with 2.0 P4 flash, and use new winex ini settings for P4. P.S.S. "Dave", I take no credit for this script, it simply appeared in my computer one day. Maybe one of your "clowns" emailed it to me. ? |
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the voice Unregistered guest | that is very old...presently there is No program to "clone" a P4/5 card...but there is a winexp script called P4-D1 card checker v3 UL4s.xvb that does read P4/5 cards...and it works with any Hu loader thats UL4S flashed...its a start.. | |||
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churchboy Unregistered guest | hey everyone....been gone since Friday night....what did I miss.....just the headlines!!! I see the post has been busy! Dennis, u watching TV yet? Tusf, any news from Kanawake? ...I guess i will star reading from where we left off... |
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tusf Unregistered guest | churchboy my buddy said the store was closed today, i'm supposed to go check it out with him tommorow. i'm praying. | |||
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Anonymous | p4 file that is pretty close anyone want to help jmill
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Anonymous | p4 file that is pretty close anyone want to help jmill | |||
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tusf Unregistered guest | i went to |
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Simple Minded Unregistered guest | Ok so anyone try this thing? | |||
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tusf Unregistered guest | personally i'm not trying anything untill i go to the store i posted about a few days ago. there's nothing better than being able to deal with someone your giving money to face to face. i also just went to |
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dss dork Unregistered guest | I have heard different. I spoke last week with a canadain source that says there IS a HACK for P4. He says it has been up a running for 2 months in vancouver. The software and hardware was just released last week to the dealers for $150,000. The dealers are charging $500 a card to be programmed for the public. This is all I now. I do have the sources email address if anyone doubts me. |
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dss dork Unregistered guest | I have heard different. I spoke last week with a canadain source that says there IS a HACK for P4. He says it has been up a running for 2 months in vancouver. The software and hardware was just released last week to the dealers for $150,000. The dealers are charging $500 a card to be programmed for the public. This is all I now. |
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dss dork Unregistered guest | Murray Hill, N.J. - A group of researchers at Bell Laboratories has developed a new instrument so sensitive it can take pictures of individual electric charges on and below the surface of semiconductor devices. The instrument, known as the single-electron transistor scanning electrometer (SETSE), combines two major developments of recent times, the single-electron transistor (SET) and the scanning-probe microscope. The SET, co-invented in the late 80's by Bell Labs researchers, is a cryogenic device of microscopic size whose electrical resistance is very sensitive to the electric fields emanating from nearby electric charges. This device is so sensitive it can easily detect not just single electrons but as little as one percent of an electron's electric field. The SET consists of two tunnel junctions, similar to diodes, interconnected by a minute metal "electron island" which senses the electric fields. The second development, the scanning probe microscope, dating to the mid-80's and now in use in many forms, produces maps of physical properties of a surface on a scale comparable to that of electron-microscope images. The microscope uses a sharp tip as an ultra-small probe, which is brought gently into near contact with a material surface. A particular physical property, such as contact force, can be detected in the microscopic region below the tip. As the probe is scanned back and forth across the surface, images of this property can be captured by the microscope. In creating the SETSE, the researchers have put the circuitry of the SET literally on the point of a needle (see Figure 1 in this press release at Lucent Technologies (NYSE: LU) Internet web site, http://www.lucent.com/press/970425.bla.html). The probe consists of a sharpened glass fiber, similar in size and shape to a small sewing needle but with a much finer tip that tapers down to a tiny, nearly flat area at the end. This flat area is only 500 atoms (100 nanometers) wide. The SET is formed on this tiny area. The "electron island" covers most of the area and the two tunnel junctions are at either edge of the island. Electrical connections extend from the junctions up the side of the needle to the detectors. When brought close to a semiconductor or other surface, the SETSE probe picks up signals from all charges close to the island and measures the total charge to a small fraction of an electron. By scanning the SETSE probe back and forth, an "electric" picture emerges of the charge distribution on the surface. (see Figure 2 and Figure 3 in this press release at Lucent Technologies Internet web site, http://www.lucent.com/press/970425.bla.html). The authors have published an article, entitled "Scanning Single-Electron Transistor Microscopy: Imaging Individual Charges," in the April 25, 1997 issue of Science. They are Michael J. Yoo, now at Philips Laboratories, and Theodore A. Fulton, Harald F. Hess, Robert L. Willett, LaRue N. Dunkleberger, Robert J. Chichester, Loren N. Pfeiffer, and Kenneth W. West, all of Bell Labs. Hess noted that usually many electrical charges are sensed by the probe at once. "Typically there can be up to 300 electrons influencing the SET island at one time, which makes seeing individual electrons in the crowd a bit tricky," he said. "But, we were able to detect individual electrons by using light to move a very small fraction of them to different locations. By comparing the 'before' and 'after' picture, we can see individual spots where a new electron has arrived or where an old one has disappeared." Hess said, "The whole thrust of the semiconductor industry is to make transistors of ever smaller size and the day is not far away when only a handful of electrons will control a device's performance. The SETSE can help us locate where the electrons and charged dopant atoms are in a semiconductor material, such as gallium arsenide devices doped with silicon. The location and the amount of dopants and how they release electrons is critical to device performance. With the SETSE, we can image those charges with excellent sensitivity." He cautioned that the SETSE is at present a research tool and commercial use is as yet far off. For example, the device currently operates only at cryogenic temperatures of minus 462 °F, requiring elaborate cooling techniques. The authors expect, however, that with time the device will be reduced in size, producing images with finer details, and will be made to operate at higher temperatures. "In principle," said Fulton, "operation at room temperature with 100 times better detail is a reachable goal. The SETSE's proven ability to see single electrons is an incentive to work hard toward that goal." Bell Labs is the research and development arm of Lucent Technologies (NYSE: LU), which designs, builds, and delivers a wide range of public and private networks, communications systems and software, consumer and business telephone systems, and microelectronics components. Lucent Technologies was formed as a result of AT&T's restructuring and became a fully independent company - separate from AT&T - on Sept 30, 1996. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information, reporters may contact: George Moffatt 908-582-4815 (office) 908-544-1726 (home) Email:moffattg@lucent.com Carl Blesch 908-582-7474 (office) 908-306-0784 (home) Email:cblesch@lucent.com |
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tusf Unregistered guest | dss dork i believe you cause as i said my buddy claims to know a store that's fixing cards (but for $250) with a working 3m. i live in montreal canada. | |||
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Bronze Member Username: John4949Post Number: 25 Registered: Jun-04 | Voice: I just want to make sure i have this down right.... #1 I would need to order a brand new DTV system with several receivers (with cards). #2 Order service (the premuim package) online. i have just a few quick questions #1 This will result in my friends and family sharing the cost of dtv even if we live in different houses? #2 How many recivers and cards can you get for one account( or should i say,how many were you able to get)? #3 When it comes to ordering pay-per view movies and P0rn. Will that stuff show up on the main account if one of my friends orders some? Sharing a premuim package and sharing the cost of nfl ticket sounds perfect to me. If this works..Your my new hero! |
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tusf Unregistered guest | john davis when ordering dave tv you want to order just the cards. if you order the receivers and all they want to come install it for you. when you call to order tell them you already own however many recievers you want to run (personally the most amount of recievers i've ever seen on one account is 7). you're gonna need all the serial numbers from all the recivers (on the back of the boxs). i believe if you have all the serial numbers when you call (i'm not sure because i didn't have the serial numbers with me when i called) they'll send you all your cards overnight FOR FREE. i know 100% that they will at a minmum send you three cards free overnight and once you get them and call them back to acctivate those three cards they will send you your remaining cards free. now for everyone you want to share with you, you send them the card or cards you sellected for them (you must keep track of which card goes with which reciever box. match card # with reciver #). none of them can ever hook up to a phoneline. when they get their cards they stick them in their receivers you call to acctivate and minutes later everyone's up. each card has about 25 ppvs that the can store without being hooked to a phoneline, so if you order with your remote control eventually you will use up all your ppvs. also when you order with remote only that receiver picks up the ppv. you do not get charged for your ppv when ordering by remote if not hooked up to phoneline and once all 25 ppv have been used and the card is full. the only confirmed way at the moment to clear is to plug it into the phone (you will then get charged for all ppvs, once you pay the card is fully cleared again for another 25 but don't have people at different addresses hooking to the phone. if you order your ppvs online you will be billed for it right away but all receivers will pick up the ppv. hope that clears it up a little. | |||
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tusf Unregistered guest | john davis dave does not want people to do this. just making sure you knew that before you call | |||
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Bronze Member Username: John4949Post Number: 26 Registered: Jun-04 | One more thing: I have an old unpaid bill with dave. The only time i need to call him is to pay off the old bill and request new cards be sent(with only two or three arriving right away). Once the first few cards arrive..I order service online (dont call?). Then more cards will come and they will automatically get service when they are plugged into their receivers? |
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tusf Unregistered guest | the unpaid bill i'm sure you'll have to pay. when i called originally i wanted six cards but didn't have the six different receiver serial numbers with me. they told me the'd send me three of the six right away, when i get them put them in their respective receivers and then call them back to acctivate. once i did that they then sent me my remaining cards which again i had to put in the remaining receivers and call to activate. you order your ppvs online if you want to share them, that's all i use with their online service. | |||
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churchboy Unregistered guest | tusf...tks for the update keep me posted | |||
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the voice Unregistered guest | Pay the old bill..call DTV,order x cards based upon x IRD's (can use any old IRD and serial#),receive cards and insert into IRD's (write down which card into which IRD),give IRD's to anyone at anyplace U want,have everyone plug in IRD's,unplug phone lines,call DTV and activate subscription..now everone order PPV's etc "online" using the Directv.com online master account...now all no matter where they live can watch...do same for NFL sunday ticket,or any sports package,PPV event(boxing,PPV movies...now split the costs...all online purchases will show up on 1 bill (master account),irregardless who orders in your group..this is very simple..BTW,I know of some who have 10 IRD's,but suggest U keep it down to 5-6,but your choice...oh yes,each card wil cost U a one time $20 fee (since U're a previous subscriber) and a $5 monthly fee..and tusf gave U good and correct info also.. BTW...why are all so eager to give their money away to these scammers,cpwave,satthouse and 3moffshore...chill,when the real hack is out and being sold at any site,EVERYONE will know within 1 day!...there are few secrets in the Dss world.. |
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tusf Unregistered guest | i just got the directions to get to the store, so i'm headed to the reserve. | |||
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Bronze Member Username: John4949Post Number: 27 Registered: Jun-04 | Voice..sorry to be asking a million questions on this,But i thought that if DAVE activates my card over the phone that only the card in my box will work. For instance,My brother lives across town..Will his card work if he plugs the viirgin card into his Rceiver (with phoneline unplugged) while im calling to activate my own service over the phone? Since the payperview just shows up on the maion account. Freinds and family and myself can order up to 25 movies each but they wont show up until i plug my phone in... Man..Im sooo freaking happy right now!!!! |
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me again Unregistered guest | The hack is out and the guy wants 5 million. So far there are around 25 websites all putting the money together and it will be launched on all the sites simultaneously. I dare you to flame me because when it happens I want this post stickied so all you flamers can lick bag. Don't buy any fixes unless it is a big launch on around 25 sites on the same day. |
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creeper99 Unregistered guest | Sorry guys that satthouse site are a bunch of scammers bought their bullshit scripts too basically old hu scripts renamed ! these guys are the same scammers that operated p4now.com who took lots of peoples money stay away from these" A holes" please! there running there bs site out of Canada | |||
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tusf Unregistered guest | well i just got home from the reserve, it took me a little while to find the place but i found it and it was closed. no bs drove out there and sign said sorry were closed. maybe they closed cause today's happens to be canada's federal election i'm not sure. i did get their phone number which was displayed outside the store so tommorow i can call to make sure i'm not going again for nothing. anyone in the montreal area that wants to try and go, just drive to kanawake and ask pretty much anyone in town how to find the satellite store and they'll know (there's only one). again i'm not 100% sure they have a hack, i was just told they do, and like almost all of you i don't really believe anyone has it untill i see it for myself. so basically no new news yet, i'm trying. john davis when you call dave to activate once you already have your cards in whatever receiver wherever it is, you read the matched number on card they gave you with the serial number of whichever receiver the card is in and with no phoneline that receiver will instantly start to work. you have to activate each receiver one at a time with all the numbers that i already explained you need. |
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Bronze Member Username: R_solePost Number: 37 Registered: Jun-04 | there is no excuse for running scam sites, but you have to admit there is some real thick irony about people complaining they got ripped off while trying to steal somthing... ~~ ok reflective moment over~~~ and news on the hack? |
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windup Unregistered guest | TUSF Found it a little hard to believe that the hack for p4 cards is alive and well on an indian reservation in Quebec I hope to make the trip worth while you purchased some whiskey and smokes And I hope like heck that it turns out they have it so I can pay in Canadian dollars |
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trini Unregistered guest | I from Trinidat and have a working hacked DTV card. It's been on for over 6 months now. I bought it from someone in Miami for 500 us$. He dont want me to mention his name, maybe he wants to make some money first. I don't care if you guys believe me or not, but i have free tv with all channels open. If I knew how the cards works I would send you the info but I have no clue how these cards works, I just buy programed cards. If you want proof tell me how. |
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Bronze Member Username: R_solePost Number: 38 Registered: Jun-04 | Watch p0rn for 24 hours Trini, then tell us everything you have seen! or better yet send us a card! |
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tusf Unregistered guest | for some reason i really don't find it hard to beleive that the hack could have become available on an idian reserve before the internet or many dealers. if any of you guys reading know anything about the indians that live on the reserves near montreal, so so so many of them have their hands into all kinds of the sketch $hit. the way i see it, definately possible, but again nothings certain yet (hopefully tomorrow this indian store thing will be solved). |
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