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Bronze Member Username: DomenicoGlendale, AZ USA Post Number: 58 Registered: Apr-09 | Bought a truck, had 2 12 kicker comps Ina custom box made for "some jl subs bro" and a garbage amp..600 watts. Now I put in two alpine type rs (12) in a porter pre fab box & pdx1000 and the kicker comps sounded way fckn better... WHY?! |
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Silver Member Username: Kingandsons07TEAM NEBRASKA Lincoln,NE Post Number: 938 Registered: Aug-08 | cuz type r's are better then kicker and they will sound better in a custom box made just for them |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 7350 Registered: Nov-05 | prefab = fail its all in the install.. |
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Gold Member Username: SomedonniedudeIllinois Braaap MX Post Number: 2779 Registered: May-07 | x2 on the prefab failure. Not being an azz, but when you mean "sound better" do you mean louder, or actually sound better. I ask because I know people who say subs sound bad if they aren't loud, needless to say they are retards. Can you give us an example on how the kickers sounded better? |
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Platinum Member Username: Rovin1 15 = 152.5 DBs ...Trinidad & T... Post Number: 15545 Registered: Jul-05 | its because u used better equipment ... |
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Bronze Member Username: DomenicoGlendale, AZ USA Post Number: 59 Registered: Apr-09 | The alpines just didn't bang hard, it seemed like they weren't having stiff bass. If you know what I'm saying?? The kickers would fckn shake everything in my truck and shake my eyeballs and have that weird feeling in yr throat, the alpines did not.. &&& what do you mean it's beacuse I used better equip?.. the kickers sounded better the the type r's &+ I know prefab is weak sh!t but it's just a temp box, obvs lol |
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Silver Member Username: Mpinto19kColorado Springs/, CO Post Number: 306 Registered: Feb-09 | Well using prefab box is part of your answer as to why. If you think the Kickers sounded better than the type R's than you need to get those R's out of that prefab sh!t and listen again. Granted that just might be your kinda style I don't know but I've heard both and kicker is loud yes but sounds no where near as clean as type r's which can still get really loud. Like jack just said its all in the install |
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Bronze Member Username: DomenicoGlendale, AZ USA Post Number: 60 Registered: Apr-09 | Yeah I came to that conclusion as well, just don't fell like dropping couple hundo ona custom box for some subs I might not even like. Now dynamat... yay or nay? |
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Gold Member Username: Snowball123West Allis, WI Post Number: 3205 Registered: Oct-07 | couple hundred? Spend 40 bucks on wood and like 10 for screws and glue. |
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Silver Member Username: EricmbWaycross, Georgia United States Post Number: 190 Registered: Nov-08 | nay... the dynamat is not going to fix ur current problem at all.. spend like 25 dollars on a sheet of mdf and build you a box.. if you know how to do some simple math, know how to use a power drill, and a saw you can make a box.. |
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Silver Member Username: Simple_smithLapeer, Michigan United States Post Number: 112 Registered: Dec-08 | Why would you waste your money on dynamat if your box is the problem? Building a new box would be ~40 bucks Build it right and it will sound good. go to http://reaudio.com/speaker_box/LPort_Box_Calc.html and design your box |
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Gold Member Username: BonhamdTraverse City, MI Post Number: 1940 Registered: Nov-07 | agreed - kevin (ducka) can help you with the design im sure i think hes built a few boxes for his type rs |
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Platinum Member Username: Rovin1 15 = 152.5 DBs ...Trinidad & T... Post Number: 15546 Registered: Jul-05 | disregard my post up there since i misread what u said - my bad most likely what happened is that the Rs does not like that prefab box & is not performing good in it , if u get a proper ported box im sure just 1 of those types R will r@pe both comps also check ur deck & amp filters ...tuning makes a world of difference ... |
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Bronze Member Username: DomenicoGlendale, AZ USA Post Number: 74 Registered: Apr-09 | I wasn't implying that dynamat would be my solution. Jus an off topic question. About building a box myself, I'm positive I can build it, I just don't know how to tune a box & sh!t About making sure my amp is filters are straight & sh!t what should I set all my sh!t too on it? like the gains & sh!t. (pdx 1000) I have Kineitk power cell cap b.s. should I both hooking it up? |
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Silver Member Username: Mpinto19kColorado Springs/, CO Post Number: 313 Registered: Feb-09 | Go to the website given a couple of posts up and it tells you the tuned freq to the specs you put in. |
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Silver Member Username: Prozack52Cincinnati, 2-audio puls... Post Number: 571 Registered: Feb-08 | yea build a box bud |
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Gold Member Username: DuckaShelby Twp., MI United States Post Number: 1248 Registered: Jan-08 | 4-4.5 cuft @ somewhere around 32-38hz depending on your car and what you prefer. You said you have a truck so I would tune around 32 - 35 hz. Use the RE enclosure calculator... That is the easiest. It has to be your install, because I have r's in a trunk car and I destroy 15" comps in an suv in every aspect. It may have something to do with how your subs are positioned. They may not be loading very well. Pics of your current install. |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 7358 Registered: Nov-05 | from you comment on filters and gain.. you've probably got the amp setup completely wrong as well |
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Platinum Member Username: Nd4spd18Philadelphia, PA Post Number: 10694 Registered: Jul-06 | ^^ x2 |
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Gold Member Username: JoebruceTC Sounds/DLS Post Number: 2849 Registered: May-04 | Yea dog like all dem knobs n sh!t needs ta be turned to da right wayz n sh!t |
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Gold Member Username: DuckaShelby Twp., MI United States Post Number: 1250 Registered: Jan-08 |
^exactly, turn them all, all the way to the right. |
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Bronze Member Username: DomenicoGlendale, AZ USA Post Number: 76 Registered: Apr-09 | Ducka; thanks for the info & I had the subs blowin to the back of the seat and I didn't like it so I turned em so they'd blow upward and it sounded better and then I turned em so they'd blow toward the back a good 4-7 inches and it sounded the best. & really? All the way to the right? Now what determans what hz you should pick for your box? Like if I had two 12s and played em what would be pointed out to be that'll make me be like oh sh!t this needs to be blah blah blah lol |
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Silver Member Username: Mpinto19kColorado Springs/, CO Post Number: 314 Registered: Feb-09 | Lol don't turn them all the way to the right, I'm not gonna give advice on tuning because I dont know enough about it but he's messing with you... or so I hope  |
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Bronze Member Username: DomenicoGlendale, AZ USA Post Number: 77 Registered: Apr-09 | Yeah I kinda figured.. |
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Gold Member Username: DuckaShelby Twp., MI United States Post Number: 1258 Registered: Jan-08 | Yeah i was kidding. bass boost all the way down, gain set by either ear or dmm (i dont feel like going into detail about that right now). those are the two most important knobs the others can generally be adjusted to your preference and how the system is set up. What do you prefer SPL(loudest, less musical) SQL (middle ground) SQ (most musical) Tuning depends on if you like spl, sql, or sq. Personal preference and the type of sub you are using determines a range of tuning that would be acceptable. try standing the box on its side and having it against one of the sides of the truck facing in. My friend did this in a extended cab s10 and was noticeably louder. Not guaranteeing results, but it is another option to try. |
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Gold Member Username: •cam•BC Canada Post Number: 2583 Registered: Nov-06 | Ego seeps out from under many of these posts. Take it easy, guys. Setting the gain by ear is not too difficult. Find a song with clear, heavy bass and turn off your mid-range and high frequency speakers. Set the headunit EQ to flat, turn off any other processing, and set the volume to 3/4. Play the song and slowly increase the gain until you hear distortion. Back off on it a little bit and then listen for a while, put your ear to the sub and listen for signs of stress. Basic rule of thumb: if it sounds bad, turn it down. You could also let them oscillate a while then turn it off and feel the dustcap. If it's super hot, you may want to turn it down and listen again. With a little practice, clipping becomes painfully obvious. If you've got any musician friends, they could probably help you set the gain and get a feel for clipping. |
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Gold Member Username: Snowball123West Allis, WI Post Number: 3239 Registered: Oct-07 | woa sh*t. what's up cam? |
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Diamond Member Username: WingmanaliveWww.stainles... .ecrater.com Post Number: 21403 Registered: Jun-06 | What's up dude? As far as advice? Been doing that for years and also been suggesting it! |
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Gold Member Username: •cam•BC Canada Post Number: 2584 Registered: Nov-06 | Just gonna be getting back on the road so I resurrected my battery from 1/4 Volt. It's holding 13.5 now. Glad I get to keep that $100 I was sure I'd have to spend! Guess I didn't disconnect after that one time I started it up to maintain the battery. Wait... Wow. I just realized I never disconnected the aft battery... How have you guys been? |
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Diamond Member Username: WingmanaliveWww.stainles... .ecrater.com Post Number: 21412 Registered: Jun-06 | Hagnin' on......by a thread, so to speak.  |
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Bronze Member Username: DomenicoGlendale, AZ USA Post Number: 78 Registered: Apr-09 | Cam; thanks for the help I went to home depot and talked to them about getting some wood and tools and told em I was going to build a box and the dude told me that Rey would cut me the pieces I needed so all I would have to do is glue and nail the the box together. |
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