Silver Member Username: Ez2ctvPost Number: 117 Registered: Dec-07 | Rumors are that CW will have a solution for N3 that will require additional hardware similar to a "dongle" BUT (and this is the key) DOES NOT require internet connection. Google TWIN protocol currently used in Europe it is guessed as this is what CW is refering to as a NON IKS solution. |
Silver Member Username: Bazuka2020Post Number: 790 Registered: Oct-05 | Quote: Originally Posted by cripet View Post We have a new feature, twin protocol, for the 3020IR, but what is it for? Anyone can help? Thanks hi my friend twin protocol is for GBOX AND card shairing. good luck __________________ All Files posted are for educational purposes only No NDS SKY UK Cable hack discussion allowed! ALL MEMBERS PLEASE READ & FOLLOW SATMOZ RULES & GUIDELINES Read them here:- [http://www.satmoz.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=2 |
Gold Member Username: Saqeeb9000Post Number: 5519 Registered: Oct-07 | tony that will be totally amazing, if its true, but if its dongle, i will think it will req internet connection, cnx dongle are also available now.. |
Silver Member Username: Ez2ctvPost Number: 118 Registered: Dec-07 | Satellite Key Sharing (SKS) speculation is that in addition to the "Dongle" you will also need to have a additional dish/lnb pointing at a certain satellite to obtain the key updates. IKS without the internet Thus SKS |
Silver Member Username: Bazuka2020Post Number: 793 Registered: Oct-05 | Thats very interesting. lets have some more input |
Bronze Member Username: Shredd3rTORONTO Post Number: 40 Registered: Mar-09 | If CW beats VeiwSat to the fta solution, then CW will be the #1 receiver in the fta industry. Making me happy. |
Silver Member Username: JaysonPost Number: 339 Registered: Aug-06 | I don't like how that sounds...it means more hardware = much more money to spend |
Bronze Member Username: Shredd3rTORONTO Post Number: 41 Registered: Mar-09 | Ya it might be more hardware but after this N3 fix there probably wont be another one for years. |
Bronze Member Username: Waqarkhan1971Post Number: 67 Registered: Mar-09 | what else we want ??????????? so my captive works also will work then |
Gold Member Username: SatgrlDil Mei DarD a Jaga ... Post Number: 1817 Registered: Oct-07 | what if all the receivers only start working with internet connection first sonicview now nfusion..hmm it would be pretty interesting |
Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 15401 Registered: Jun-06 | Good progress. Good info, tony pandy. |
Gold Member Username: Saqeeb9000Post Number: 5547 Registered: Oct-07 | sat grl ur post is confusing |
Gold Member Username: SatgrlDil Mei DarD a Jaga ... Post Number: 1821 Registered: Oct-07 | HAHA sada i mean like what if all receivers require the internet connection thingy)...lol i meant first it was sonicview ihub thingy now its captive works haha i messed up |
Gold Member Username: Saqeeb9000Post Number: 5548 Registered: Oct-07 | ok sattelite key sharing is totally new to me... |
New member Username: SearchPost Number: 8 Registered: Mar-09 | I heard that also about CW. Also heard that this will be exclusive to the CW 600P. |
Bronze Member Username: HannityREPUBLICAN, LOVE COUNTRY Post Number: 34 Registered: May-09 | tony pandy Silver Member Username: Ez2ctv Post Number: 118 Registered: Dec-07 Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 03:54 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Satellite Key Sharing (SKS) speculation is that in addition to the "Dongle" you will also need to have a additional dish/lnb pointing at a certain satellite to obtain the key updates. IKS without the internet Thus SKS ................................................................................ ................................................................................ .........Tony, that actually sounds very believable!!! FANTASTIC idea, because the internet connection thing is strictly for losers. A separate dish to constantly update keys, how will they stop us? Sounds awesome!! I AM IN |
Gold Member Username: RiconissanPost Number: 1481 Registered: Feb-09 | I agree. Nice weekend Tiger. |
Gold Member Username: Saqeeb9000Post Number: 5553 Registered: Oct-07 | well this is definately "innovative" to me... iks eks slinger and now sks.. where are u king,,,,,,,,,,,,, they can't stop us now |
Bronze Member Username: HannityREPUBLICAN, LOVE COUNTRY Post Number: 35 Registered: May-09 | Thanks Rico, I never really recovered from round 1 weather. Not using it as a excuse or anything, just that I was prepared for US open conditions, and I never quite adjusted. You might have noticed that the top 10 only had one person that played in the bad weather, and that was yours truly. |
Gold Member Username: RiconissanPost Number: 1482 Registered: Feb-09 | Hey make 3 putts and it would have gone another 18. You had to know Barnes would fall apart. And Mickleson the guy just can't finish. Anyway a cool $1/4 mil to come in what 6th? |
Silver Member Username: BernardmiPost Number: 512 Registered: Dec-07 | If they really mean a "dongle" then this is bad news because a "dongle" can cost anything from $100 to thousands !!!!! Dongle is a key protection that you plug into a serial or parallel port. Like the ones used to run Autocad software. The software constantly check to see if the dongle is still plugged-in otherwise it stops working. Dongles cannot be copied and can only be bought from a single source. Get prepared to pay ! |
Gold Member Username: RiconissanPost Number: 1483 Registered: Feb-09 | And that "Source" sounds like it will be Charlie. |
Gold Member Username: RiconissanPost Number: 1484 Registered: Feb-09 | TOL are you sure a dongle cannot be duplicated? |
Silver Member Username: BernardmiPost Number: 514 Registered: Dec-07 | Nope. Cannot be copied. Autocad license costs $10,000 and it relies on a dongle. If you could copy the dongle, you would be a rich man ! |
Gold Member Username: RiconissanPost Number: 1485 Registered: Feb-09 | But there are Limited "older" versions of Autocad that are out there free. Didn't those hacked copies once use a key? |
Silver Member Username: JaysonPost Number: 340 Registered: Aug-06 | TOL you will need the dongle, a new dish + LNB and if u don't have a CW you'll need one as well....so perhaps you'll have to spend something between $500 to $1000 to be up again??? |
Gold Member Username: RiconissanPost Number: 1486 Registered: Feb-09 | Jayson You would think that every box manufacturer will have this option eventually. |
Silver Member Username: JaysonPost Number: 341 Registered: Aug-06 | of course...I did think of that too Rico...my point an only my opinion is that would end up being costly taking into account that somebody would have to pay for the new sat...... |
Silver Member Username: ChumleyPost Number: 372 Registered: Dec-08 | Rico = Imbecile |
Gold Member Username: RiconissanPost Number: 1487 Registered: Feb-09 | Chumley's Father |
Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 15402 Registered: Jun-06 | SonySat has announced a service similar to Nfusion. Very soon all manufacturers will be turning to IKS and/or dongle and/or SKS. I can't keep pace with the terminology. |
Silver Member Username: JaysonPost Number: 342 Registered: Aug-06 | yeap....and that would be scary cause we might think that they have no permanent solution for N3 so they are turning to card/key sharing as the long term fix.......whether it is by internet or sat or whatever... |
Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 15403 Registered: Jun-06 | It would be worth it if it means a service free of ECMs! |
Bronze Member Username: Shredd3rTORONTO Post Number: 42 Registered: Mar-09 | |
Silver Member Username: Ez2ctvPost Number: 119 Registered: Dec-07 | This is a picture of a Dongle being used in Europe. It is not from CW and only to represent what is used for SKS in Europe. fact or fiction on what CW will do, time will only tell. |
Bronze Member Username: HannityREPUBLICAN, LOVE COUNTRY Post Number: 36 Registered: May-09 | Speakin as a NON coder, this sounds like the perfect situation. Why would the computer be needed? Isn`t the computer with IKS only needed as a way to deliver the keys to the dongle/whatever? If you are delivering the keys to the dongle/whatever, by way of the extra satellite dish, then no need for computer, in my mind? However if a computer was needed you could use a junker just for that? My question is this......If we are getting the keys delivered via satellite, what satellite are we using? Is somebody renting a spot on a private satellite? Or is CW having their own satellite launched from kakistan(sp), we could all chip in... lol But seriously, what satellite is available to us for SKS? |
Gold Member Username: RiconissanPost Number: 1491 Registered: Feb-09 | Like TOL says above. The source of the key may come at a price. Buy the dongle for a few hundred dollars. Charlie sends the keys. And also periodic ECM's.? |
Silver Member Username: FrobiPost Number: 370 Registered: Aug-06 | Ya, buy new dongle every year after ECM. Indirect subscription. |
Silver Member Username: Ez2ctvPost Number: 120 Registered: Dec-07 | My question is this......If we are getting the keys delivered via satellite, what satellite are we using? Is somebody renting a spot on a private satellite? Or is CW having their own satellite launched from kakistan(sp), we could all chip in... lol But seriously, what satellite is available to us for SKS? that is the $ 10,000.00 question I question IF CW has to uplink the "FIX" (key, control words, card etc.) WHO (what company) will lease them the Satellite ????? and will the Satellite be viewable in all of North America ? To many questions to be answered and again CW & SKS is only a RUMOR at this point. Great concept SKS and IF (IF is the BIG word) it works, supported and cost is minimal then it is a IKS killer. |
Bronze Member Username: HannityREPUBLICAN, LOVE COUNTRY Post Number: 37 Registered: May-09 | I read that SKS was already in Europe, so is it only a rumor? |
Silver Member Username: JaysonPost Number: 343 Registered: Aug-06 | one ECM they could use is hire north korea to fire a missile and destroy the sat that is providing the keys ....Rush your question about not needing the computer is an interesting one...but remember that sat communications are affected by weather so there is another catch for SKS...although if the weather is affecting communication, then you will not have good signal after all... |
Silver Member Username: Getmo96Post Number: 132 Registered: Jul-08 | Does the dongle run a a DOS program? |
Gold Member Username: RiconissanPost Number: 1520 Registered: Feb-09 | No. ROM Basic Like the commodore 64 |