What sub KILLS THE LOWS!
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Gold Member Username: DeadrabitMarionville, MO Post Number: 1865 Registered: Jun-07 | looking 8cuft or less and i want to tune low as i can. i was looking a pair of FI Qs (best thing i know of) do u know of anything that will hit the lows better than the Q? powered be an aq2200 |
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Platinum Member Username: Nyyfan13Northern VA Post Number: 11466 Registered: Jul-06 | Get more power at 3 ohms and I got an idea |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 6761 Registered: Nov-05 | 4 RE SE 12"s tuned at 28hz |
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Gold Member Username: RideredderCornell, IL USA Post Number: 1634 Registered: Sep-05 | ^^Kevin, are you sponsored by RE or what? I've never seen you suggest anything but RE. |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 6762 Registered: Nov-05 | its just the truth lol.. they have a very low FS and they drop the lows.. budget wise would be about the same cost as the Fi Qs and i did just recommend someone an idmax or pair of idqs in a recent post i base my information from listening experience not from hearsay or reading.. ive ran RE for 4yrs and never had an issues.. and ive put the subs through a lot more than they should have been in a few cases most people on here will post what they know.. perhaps if enough people can agree on the they the OP may make the decision to run that or not and yes ive heard many and many systems.. but they were not my own so how can i base my decision on a 5-10 minute listening session VS hearing something every day in my own rides/home will the fi qs get low? yes.. but i'd stack 4 SEs against them any day |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 6763 Registered: Nov-05 | and to post something different.. how about an AA Ava..  |
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Gold Member Username: DeadrabitMarionville, MO Post Number: 1868 Registered: Jun-07 | it does have a very very low fs but its only rated at 600 rms. does it have 2.5 or 3 inch coils? yanks what is ur idea? |
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Gold Member Username: CtmikeCt. Post Number: 6733 Registered: Feb-06 | yanks' idea is a nice sub. honestly, grab 4 idqv2s', last i saw they were on sale at woofersetc.com. 4 idqs' would be so nice. or, if you really want lows, try a maelstrom-x! if anything like the shiva-x, you'll absolutely love it! |
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Bronze Member Username: A12voltman80St. paul, Mn Usa Post Number: 40 Registered: Feb-09 | do you own old re's or the stuff they try to pass as the same they have now? |
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Platinum Member Username: Nyyfan13Northern VA Post Number: 11468 Registered: Jul-06 | Eh, it's a decent little sub isn't it Mike? Lol. Sound Splinter RL-s is my idea. Need quite a bit more power at 3 ohms though. |
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Gold Member Username: CtmikeCt. Post Number: 6734 Registered: Feb-06 | ever get yours installed yanks? |
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Platinum Member Username: Nyyfan13Northern VA Post Number: 11469 Registered: Jul-06 | Got it sitting 5 feet from me right now waiting still. Been riding around bassless for the past 2 months  Aiming for late this month/early July for install. Just gotta buy the wiring now. |
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Bronze Member Username: A12voltman80St. paul, Mn Usa Post Number: 42 Registered: Feb-09 | the trick is to get a subwoofer that can play flat and have some type of output. I have owned tc subs and did they go low! but you had to find certain songs to play and listen to them over and over since 90% of the songs were to high for the some to pick up since they are so peaky. I also owned a PG titanium elite. I came up with a box that played flat from 20-70 hz within 3 db but it had no output. I also use LMS programs to design my boxes and have been playing with subwoofers and subwoofer box design most of my life. I am still waiting for a sub that can play flat without being in a 10 cube box and still maintain output. I would like to see a challenge for that instead of spl all the time. |
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Gold Member Username: JkidderWorlds gunna end, In 2012 Post Number: 4144 Registered: Nov-05 | what kind of wiring do you need yanks? i uninstalled one of my setups about 4 months ago and still have a good bit of wiring sitting around |
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Platinum Member Username: Rovin1 15 = 149.5 DBs ...Trinidad & T... Post Number: 15077 Registered: Jul-05 | ''''''''4 RE SE 12"s tuned at 28hz'''''''' i like that idea even in a sealed box too wud be sick sweet ..... |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 23335 Registered: Oct-05 | the soundsplinter rl-s is the lowest fricking sub i've heard in my life. yanks is very lucky own one. i wish i had one of those subs. sup rovin. |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 6764 Registered: Nov-05 | "I am still waiting for a sub that can play flat without being in a 10 cube box and still maintain output. " 04/05 XXX |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 23336 Registered: Oct-05 | how did i know you were going to say that kevin. |
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Gold Member Username: Snowball123West Allis, WI Post Number: 2829 Registered: Oct-07 | Cause XXX>RL-s |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 23337 Registered: Oct-05 | lol clown |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 6765 Registered: Nov-05 | i wasn't much impressed with the rl-s i head.. it got low but the output wasn't there not what i was expecting |
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Gold Member Username: BernymacPhnom PenhCambodia Post Number: 4648 Registered: Sep-04 | ^^ Same here. It definitely got low but it didn't "hit" like I expected it to. It didn't hit the high notes well. It just got really low. |
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Gold Member Username: Drant19DUB-C, TX Post Number: 1753 Registered: Aug-07 | how about 2 15" RE SEs 8cubes@30Hz.... cuz thats what ima build  |
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Gold Member Username: DeadrabitMarionville, MO Post Number: 1869 Registered: Jun-07 | what about the revo? |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 6766 Registered: Nov-05 | abarca, 12" SEs drop lower than the 15"s.. this is why i suggested 4 to make up the cone area difference |
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Platinum Member Username: Nyyfan13Northern VA Post Number: 11470 Registered: Jul-06 | The output on the one I heard is all I need to be happy. 135 dbs for daily driving is all I need to be happy. Anything else is just gravy to me lol. |
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Diamond Member Username: WingmanaliveWww.stainles... .ecrater.com Post Number: 20606 Registered: Jun-06 | "but its only rated at 600 rms." Put clean power to any well built sub and watch that number soar. |
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Gold Member Username: Drant19DUB-C, TX Post Number: 1755 Registered: Aug-07 | "abarca, 12" SEs drop lower than the 15"s.. this is why i suggested 4 to make up the cone area difference" |
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Gold Member Username: Drant19DUB-C, TX Post Number: 1756 Registered: Aug-07 | the FS for the 12 is 25.1 Hz Fs for the 15 is 22 Hz am i wrong for thinking that the lower the FS, then the lower the sub can go?? for some reason thats what i thought |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 6767 Registered: Nov-05 | whoops my bad, thats what i get for being sick all day today |
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Gold Member Username: Drant19DUB-C, TX Post Number: 1757 Registered: Aug-07 | haha its all good man...so im right about the FS?? i just wanna make sure for future reference and so i dont give out wrong information |
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Gold Member Username: Snowball123West Allis, WI Post Number: 2835 Registered: Oct-07 | i like her, I wanna wife her. |
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Gold Member Username: SomedonniedudeIllinois Braaap MX Post Number: 2665 Registered: May-07 | The RL-s is more on the SQ side. The tc-3000 or Lightning audio storm should have more output. My storm played very flat sealed and the sq was sex. I've never listened to a Q so I can't compare, but my Atomic APX had a strong low end... then again it was a 10" in a ~2.7cf box @ 35~36 hz in my trunk. It would eat up mid to upper 20 hz region hard. |
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Gold Member Username: Hittin1TEAM REVOLUTIONLake Charles... Post Number: 3429 Registered: May-07 | I would take 2- RL-s's sealed over 2- 0/4-0/5 XXX's all day. But, let's be honest... Both subs are amazing to say the least. dBLK, what is this setup going in? |
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Platinum Member Username: Rovin1 15 = 149.5 DBs ...Trinidad & T... Post Number: 15080 Registered: Jul-05 | my 2 10s re se in 1 cuft for each sub in a sealed box did 139.8dbs on the termlab meter... who says SQ sounds soft .... |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 6768 Registered: Nov-05 | yep, metered my SEs on half power .. .7 cubes per chamber and seats don't fold.. did a 141.3 @ 48hz TL .. this was a sweep not a burp, ive never actually burped them i'd expect mid to high 143s |
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Gold Member Username: DeadrabitMarionville, MO Post Number: 1873 Registered: Jun-07 | its going in this guys car... i forgot what kind it was. but he is paying me to build it because places in this area charge a million bucks. so i told him about the Q and just thought i would tell him about anything else that may be good he just wants lows. but i think how the subs looks makes a difference to him too. he didn't like the 12 idea because he didn't think the magnet looked as cool if it was inverted. ill show pix and stuff if u guys want. ill prolly start friday |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 6769 Registered: Nov-05 | they look almost the same? Lol |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 23342 Registered: Oct-05 | gotta admit my pair of rl-s's didn't sound all that loud but it was due to the box size. i just couldn't get a large sealed box in my trunk. also its not easy powering a single 3ohm sub. lol. but the title states what kills the lows and i say the rl-s really kills the lows more than any other subs i've heard or owned. the excursions were ridiculous when it hit the lows. hahaha. |
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Gold Member Username: RideredderCornell, IL USA Post Number: 1636 Registered: Sep-05 | "its not easy powering a single 3ohm sub" ^^Exactly why I haven't hooked mine up yet. I want to hear this thing so bad, but I don't have an amp that will push it yet. |
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Bronze Member Username: SundownzMooresville, NC USA Post Number: 49 Registered: Nov-06 | I agree on the older RE XXX subs - those were great low-end monsters. |
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Gold Member Username: DeadrabitMarionville, MO Post Number: 1874 Registered: Jun-07 | do you guys know a place that sells the xxx at a good cost? best i could find for an 18 was still around 900 |
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Bronze Member Username: SundownzMooresville, NC USA Post Number: 50 Registered: Nov-06 | Maybe try finding a local dealer to hook you up ? I haven't really seen the new XXX selling cheap anywhere new. |
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Gold Member Username: DeadrabitMarionville, MO Post Number: 1876 Registered: Jun-07 | i do know a place! ill call today. if i got the 18 i could tune to 20Hz. now would tuning that low sound like crap? i have just never seen anything that low and do'nt want to screw this one up |
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Bronze Member Username: SundownzMooresville, NC USA Post Number: 52 Registered: Nov-06 | Very little music goes that low... so I wouldn't tune that low. 30Hz or so will do it nicely as your port will still reduce excursion substantially down to 25 Hz (1/3 octave). |
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Gold Member Username: DeadrabitMarionville, MO Post Number: 1877 Registered: Jun-07 | jacob i like u thanks guys! |
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Gold Member Username: JkidderWorlds gunna end, In 2012 Post Number: 4146 Registered: Nov-05 | ewww?? |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 6771 Registered: Nov-05 | dBlk, were talking about the 04/05 XXX models.. not the new ones |
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Silver Member Username: Armykyle1Ms Us Post Number: 650 Registered: Dec-08 | JL subs will get lower than you think but they're pricey. I had a W6 13 in 3cubes @28hz, stupid good SQ and nasty lows, just lacked in overall output. This sub here will get silly low with great output. http://www.diamondaudio.com/content/view/125/191/ The D6 is a great sounding sub as well. Hex pros and or D9s are fantastic subs. the D3s are even awesome they will easily handle 200 watts over rms. I don't know why none of guys recommend diamond. They make a really solid product. Any way diamond gets my vote. I'll take a D3 over a RE. |
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Gold Member Username: DeadrabitMarionville, MO Post Number: 1878 Registered: Jun-07 | can't find any of the 04s |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 6779 Registered: Nov-05 | you just missed a killer deal on an 04/05 XXX on ebay.. lol $290.50 shipped check ca.com or diymobile.com .. theres gotta be one floating i know theres an 18" |
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Gold Member Username: DeadrabitMarionville, MO Post Number: 1879 Registered: Jun-07 | WOW! 290! gosh i did miss out |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 6782 Registered: Nov-05 | yea.. you should find someone to buy my SX 15s.. lol |
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Gold Member Username: SomedonniedudeIllinois Braaap MX Post Number: 2668 Registered: May-07 | I had a 15" D6 and it had a descent low end. I mean it got low, but didn't get as low as my TC9, ED SPv2, APX, or LA storm. None the less the D6 is still a solid sub and can take a beating. |
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Silver Member Username: Armykyle1Ms Us Post Number: 651 Registered: Dec-08 | IMO the D6 seemed to play a lil higher than the D3s and D9s, I love em lol |
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