154.3 with ONE Nightshade 15!
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Bronze Member Username: Team_nemesisdjWilmington NC Post Number: 12 Registered: Jun-09 | You are right, it is the internet so I call bullshit So what is your K-factor set at on the TL? Why don't have panels in your car? A daily driver consist of full interior brah. Any sub can go down to mid 30's, but what does it sound like? Probably a hollow F A R T, but of course I havn't heard it and you will say, oh no it sounds great. You still fail in my book. damn keyboard commando @ its best ...again i will offer a open invitation to you to come out to a show ..then all the "talking out your anus"can really be in the open .....talk is cheap ..if your so cofident about what your saying ...come show/prove it to me |
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Silver Member Username: CozceSt. Louis ILLside, Pronounced: ... U.S.A. Post Number: 746 Registered: Mar-08 | Quacker, you fail in everyones book. |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 23338 Registered: Oct-05 | nice to see this forum is getting some quality new members. |
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Bronze Member Username: Roman_noodlesBalling, Usa Usa Post Number: 49 Registered: May-09 | Since we are giving names, I welcome the spammer and the oompa loompas that followed. Think about it, you only come here to show products and don't help anyone.  wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 23340 Registered: Oct-05 | wait there used to be a cool dude on ssa that used to type "wheeee" after every posts. forgot his name though. john you the same guy? if so wassup man. lol. |
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Platinum Member Username: Nyyfan13Northern VA Post Number: 11471 Registered: Jul-06 | Visitor/02 Park Ave Or am I thinking of someone else? |
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Gold Member Username: Drant19DUB-C, TX Post Number: 1754 Registered: Aug-07 | this thread went way too far from everyone saying what shoulda been said... Congrats on the score, thats hard to reach with multiple subs. the fact you did it with 1 15" is amazing! Mad Props Jacob! for everyone else whos hating...where are your scores? put up or shut up. |
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Gold Member Username: Basebalz13Moneta, Va Usa Post Number: 1577 Registered: Aug-07 | no that is not vistior/ 02 park ave yanks fan or else he woulda said something to me on aim |
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Gold Member Username: Hittin1TEAM REVOLUTIONLake Charles... Post Number: 3428 Registered: May-07 | .i have no problem running my <ahem> RD amp at .5 ohm (before rise) and will be running at .33 ohm in a week or so. I have not heard any bad reviews on the sundown amps.. I would run them if I decided to change things up a bit.. I wouldn't hold your breath though. "-_-" |
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Bronze Member Username: SundownzMooresville, NC USA Post Number: 42 Registered: Nov-06 | John, 1) See my dB Drag stats page - my scores have been backed up within a few tenths at public shows on several different meters. Nice try, though! Heck, bring your own meter and I'll run on that too. 2) I had my panels out for my recently completed dampener testing - only the lower rear panels are out. For that matter that is legal in SS NW as it is behind the b-pillar and under the window line. It makes VERY little difference in or out. See dampener log here : http://www.sundownaudio.com/misc/96_Jeep/deadener/Log/ 3) As for the sound - it sounds fine. But hey, you don't have to believe that as a keyboard commando. But you are welcome to listen to it if you aren't scared it's too loud for you ;) |
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Gold Member Username: HdubbTeam Revolution Post Number: 4145 Registered: Nov-04 | mike hit it right on on the head. couldnt be more correct. i think this thread has got out of hand really. lots of bias in this thread and uneducated badmouthing from a lot of people. not just ray ray or qauck. |
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Gold Member Username: Basebalz13Moneta, Va Usa Post Number: 1578 Registered: Aug-07 | jacob, did you get my email? |
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Gold Member Username: Hittin1TEAM REVOLUTIONLake Charles... Post Number: 3431 Registered: May-07 | touche' Jacob |
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Bronze Member Username: Re_xxxGreen River, Wyoming U.S.A Post Number: 43 Registered: Apr-07 | The thing I have to say to the guy who said something about running sundown amps @.5 ohms... THATS WEAK!!! I know of about 10 people who run their RD Amps @ .35 DAILY....ON MUSIC!!!!! And no there not the exact same amps as the sundown... same board...but thats about it... And I know of two running @ .25 daily... So what you said was totally irellevant... And for anyone who wants to go and find out what a Nightshade is like... Just buy a Death Penalty |
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Bronze Member Username: Roman_noodlesBalling, Usa Usa Post Number: 51 Registered: May-09 | Oh man spammer, I can are less about it. Fact is, only time I have seen you over here you are posting about your product then POOF gone. You don't help anyone. Then when you get trashed you bring your nut huggers over here to "back you up". It is exactly what happens on every forum you are on. One person talks bad about your product and its like you have a email wrote out saved and ready to be sent to 5+ guys to post for you. That is all I wanted to prove with this thread. Looks like I was right and the people who actually understand what is going on will now see. I don't give a flying phuck if your sub is good or what you do. I just can't stand your ethics. You then after it gets heated post, "calm down sundown guys" or something along that line to make you look good. You are a piece of $hit and I hope people see what I see you devious B A S T A R D. |
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Gold Member Username: Basebalz13Moneta, Va Usa Post Number: 1581 Registered: Aug-07 | lol, you obviously have a personal grudge, i got a ? why dont you come after me? or say anything to me? why because im a well known/respected member on here? |
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Bronze Member Username: Team_nemesisdjWilmington NC Post Number: 13 Registered: Jun-09 | Oh man spammer, I can are less about it. Fact is, only time I have seen you over here you are posting about your product then POOF gone. You don't help anyone. Then when you get trashed you bring your nut huggers over here to "back you up". It is exactly what happens on every forum you are on. One person talks bad about your product and its like you have a email wrote out saved and ready to be sent to 5+ guys to post for you. That is all I wanted to prove with this thread. Looks like I was right and the people who actually understand what is going on will now see. I don't give a flying phuck if your sub is good or what you do. I just can't stand your ethics. You then after it gets heated post, "calm down sundown guys" or something along that line to make you look good. You are a piece of $hit and I hope people see what I see you devious B A S T A R D. ... }Ive answered the question i think 3 times now tard ..The only reason i even posted was that YOU<bold> acted like you know more about my truck than i do ....Funny thing is you actually think Jacob needs somebody to come to his defense on the ...internet/anywhere ...thats very funny ........my offer still stands ...i guess you do have some sort of vehicle ....bring it ..... |
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Bronze Member Username: Team_nemesisdjWilmington NC Post Number: 14 Registered: Jun-09 | lol, you obviously have a personal grudge, i got a ? why dont you come after me? or say anything to me? why because im a well known/respected member on here? watch yourself David ...he might start a <tight th0ng>attack on you too...Cause you truck has blue in it ..,you know how it is ,some people are always right ....i see it everyday ..funny sh!t ... |
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Bronze Member Username: Roman_noodlesBalling, Usa Usa Post Number: 52 Registered: May-09 | lol, you obviously have a personal grudge, i got a ? why dont you come after me? or say anything to me? why because im a well known/respected member on here? Because I can't understand your unstructured sentences. Learn how to type a proper sentence little man. |
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Bronze Member Username: Cdb004I got 6 12s 153.1 daily Post Number: 76 Registered: Oct-08 | "if you boys want to street beat up there in willmigton come to the A ill put some rides up no less than 200.00 per" I have a van that ill let you sit in if you come to Louisiana i like easy money. Plays music all day long. |
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New member Username: NightshadeGreensboro, NC Post Number: 3 Registered: Jun-09 | Mark Brockman aka: Hittin 1, you are right that there is a similarity between the RD and Sundown amps. I know of quite a few people running the saz line of Sundown amps at .25 ohms for daily as well. I don't happen to run mine at .25 ohms for daily and I was posting about my own experience unlike yourself I'm sure. Hell, I've even seen a saz3000d run at .125 ohms so why don't you put that in your pipe and smoke it? As for all of you that are calling those of us that run Sundown in our rides nuthuggers where the hell are you getting that from? If we were nut huggers we'd tell you that every other product out there on the market is junk other than Sundown and that's far from what we're doing. We defending a product that is being slandered by a crack head hood rat that would rather talk some internet smack than show us proof of what accomplishments that he's got for himself. I think that those of you that are just completely against Sundown have a secret love for the products. You can't admit it to everyone so you try to trash the name because you are that infatuated with it. You guys need to seriously grow up and please get your heads out of eachother's a$$es. The only products in there must be sh!t instead of the sh!t. All of you Sundown haters are a bunch of no name pu$$ies that can't even tell us what your great products in your vehicles are doing, nor could you prove it if your life's depended on it. Those of us that are saying we have done this and that with our Sundown products are telling the truth and are the real deal. Team Sundown FTMFW!!!! And if you don't like it I gots some dust caps for you to suck on bishes  |
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Gold Member Username: Basebalz13Moneta, Va Usa Post Number: 1582 Registered: Aug-07 | cory, your van is just straight crazy, no one wants a piece of that 155+ at 30 hz correct? |
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Gold Member Username: Basebalz13Moneta, Va Usa Post Number: 1583 Registered: Aug-07 | "Because I can't understand your unstructured sentences. Learn how to type a proper sentence little man." yo cuz dont u see my name b D-$ aka D-money, y u gotta be a hata up on my slang dawg, i talk how i talk, i do wat i do, its in my blood cuz. u jus a hata hatin cuz i got that sundown chit up in my whip sittin on dem 22's duece duece babay. so wat if imma set a few world records dis year ill take on anyone in dem streets for sum xtra cash flow, ya heard? Hi Hatas Hi hatas Hi Hatas werd? |
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Bronze Member Username: Roman_noodlesBalling, Usa Usa Post Number: 53 Registered: May-09 | Noneya, you are a stupid phuck. Only nut huggers would take the time to actually sign up on another forum to back their favorite company. That is beyond support, it is nut hugging. I just want to know if you are getting a reach around? Next, I have to say this. RD, IA, and others doesn't have a company that sells refurbs ALL THE TIME. There is always a sundown amp breaking. I think dbr has more stock than Jacob. What does that tell me? Someone uses the cheapest parts availbale maybe? Put that in your urethra and smoke it. |
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Gold Member Username: Drant19DUB-C, TX Post Number: 1758 Registered: Aug-07 | this thread bores me now... can we just let this one die? nothing good came from it, except the scores posted in the original post. |
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New member Username: NightshadeGreensboro, NC Post Number: 4 Registered: Jun-09 | First off if there's anything going in my urethra you'd be the one smoking it with your lips wrapped all around it. Isn't it past your bed time anyway little boy? I'm surprised that you can even spell Sundown to talk trash about it. Now let's get on the topic of Db r selling the refurbed Sundowns and not other brands. This is because Jacob sells the amps to Chris to fix instead of having them fix them and then send them back to the customers like the other companies do. It's easier for Jacob to just give the customer a brand new amp if anything happens to it instead of going through the long process of the customer sending it back and being without product for such a long time while it gets fixed. That is why you don't hear of them selling these other companies amps like you do Sundown. Not to mention that Jacob outsells both companies combined, so he's going to have more amps fail due to misuse then the others too. He can't help that sometimes morons like yourself buy his amps and turn the gain knob all the way to the right with a stock battery up front in their car. Is this what happend to you? Is this why you have such a hard on for Sundown. I usually don't get to calling names, but your phucking ghey. You have no valid points and you talk out your crap hole from every turn. Accusing Jacob of using cheap parts in his amps. OH WAIT I KNOW WHAT IT IS NOW, YOU CAN'T AFFORD SUNDOWN PRODUCTS FOR YOUR RIDE, CAN YOU? That must be what it is. And to think all this time I thought that you might have actually been able to own one and have a problem with it and that's why you were so hell bent on trying to give them a bad name. I guess you were pissed because Jacob wouldn't take your government check for an amplifier, I'm sure he told you to take it and buy a clue instead you fagget. Also I may have joined this forum to set the topic straight, but with the likes of you here it's not the kind of place I want to be anyway. There seem to be some kids like you here that have no idea of what they are talking about. You belong on car audio.com with the rejects over there. You guys would have fun smoking each other's poles over RD and whoever else you masterbate to while shoving your finger in your anus at night. |
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Gold Member Username: Basebalz13Moneta, Va Usa Post Number: 1585 Registered: Aug-07 | i still think john quack is with PAP... the name roman noodles is sooo familar i just cant think of where? |
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Bronze Member Username: Roman_noodlesBalling, Usa Usa Post Number: 54 Registered: May-09 | Meh, I don't feel like reading your BS post. What you say is not going to change anything but just feed my hunger for your stupidity. I like how you guys take this to heart. Pretty funny I must say. Calm down, go stick your lil peter in the RCA holes since Jacob isn't near you. It will be ok |
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Bronze Member Username: Re_xxxGreen River, Wyoming U.S.A Post Number: 44 Registered: Apr-07 | I remember when the first run of 3000ds came out, along with the RD 3250.1 The RD could be picked up for around 500 bucks. The SA3000D for around 900... and people were saying that was a good deal! And sundown has the best prices and blah blah... Now.... if I remember correctly that whole run of amps had heatsink problems. LOL.... but yet they cost more?!?!?! You bought the name, not the product... and a lot... LOT of people paid for it in the end when jacob bent them over when he knew he was making $$$$$$ off of this "awesome" pricing. Because I know EXACTLY what that amp costs directly from the factory And to me that is not very good service. More of a "I know people nuthug my shiit, so my prices are more than fair, even though you can have a BETTER made amp with the same board for cheaper" Now I say again.... Anyone who wants to run a NightShade sub.... Just look at either the Death Penalty or NightShade on different days... whichever one you can get for cheaper buy it! There the same! Who was the team member with the Motto : Team Sundown- We run our amps, but to win we pick different subs! |
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Bronze Member Username: Roman_noodlesBalling, Usa Usa Post Number: 55 Registered: May-09 | No mods in this forum to save your butt little man. |
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Silver Member Username: CozceSt. Louis ILLside, Pronounced: ... U.S.A. Post Number: 747 Registered: Mar-08 | John, the massive shits that keep coming from your mouth account for a 4 in wide assshole. |
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Bronze Member Username: Roman_noodlesBalling, Usa Usa Post Number: 56 Registered: May-09 | You are use to getting your @ss pounding and know how much comes out of a 4 inch assshole eh? You so nasty  |
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Silver Member Username: CozceSt. Louis ILLside, Pronounced: ... U.S.A. Post Number: 748 Registered: Mar-08 | Do you quack when your assshole reaches the 4in limit or just when it first goes in? |
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Bronze Member Username: Team_nemesisdjWilmington NC Post Number: 15 Registered: Jun-09 | I remember when the first run of 3000ds came out, along with the RD 3250.1 The RD could be picked up for around 500 bucks. The SA3000D for around 900... and people were saying that was a good deal! And sundown has the best prices and blah blah... Now.... if I remember correctly that whole run of amps had heatsink problems. LOL.... but yet they cost more?!?!?! You bought the name, not the product... and a lot... LOT of people paid for it in the end when jacob bent them over when he knew he was making $$$$$$ off of this "awesome" pricing. Because I know EXACTLY what that amp costs directly from the factory And to me that is not very good service. More of a "I know people nuthug my shiit, so my prices are more than fair, even though you can have a BETTER made amp with the same board for cheaper" Now I say again.... Anyone who wants to run a NightShade sub.... Just look at either the Death Penalty or NightShade on different days... whichever one you can get for cheaper buy it! There the same! Seth ,do you really want to go there ....We all know the RD story ....Why would i buy it when i can have the real thing ATOMIC...Hell even George will tell you that ....Call him he will not have a issue telling you ....And im not into talking down another product ...no matter how bad it was "pushed "down people throat ...And yes i put a end to that on several forums ...i have alot more that would really let alot of sh@t out into the open ,,,i could let out ...but why///Now onto having a heatsink issue ,now that pretty funny and a ingorant statemant ..funny thing is i ran 4 of the first batch of 3000ds...no issue what so ever ,i would still be running them today ,if i didnt step up in power .Honestly when i see you post posting .I always read for a good laugh ..I see you all over the internet bashing peoples product ...whats your point ,if you have so much knowledge<haha>start your own company ...then come back and talk to me |
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Bronze Member Username: SundownzMooresville, NC USA Post Number: 44 Registered: Nov-06 | 1) To answer your questions about refurbished products -- I send customers new amps rather than have them wait on repairs. If I had customers wait on repairs you wouldn't see any refurbished amps. Win-win for everyone -- the original customer gets a brand new amp and someone gets a good deal on a refurbished amp. I fail to see the problem here ? 2) My ethics John ? Please explain. I don't believe I've screwed anyone over - I'd say most of my customers are pretty happy and if they aren't they certainly haven't told me about it. 3) To RE_XXX... many people don't know the difference between nominal and DCR. Most 1/2 ohm nominal loads are 0.35 DCR as the coils are 0.7 DCR each. Same thing different way to say it. Also... how about you take a closer look at the subs -- you will find several differences from the DP to the NS if you looked beyond the outside of the motor structure. But I guess every sub with a 9" wide x 3" tall magnet stack is the same 4) Heat-sink problem, RE_XXX ? I have no idea what you are talking about on that one. We did improve the heat-sink from the original SAZ/SAX amps -- that doesn't mean there was a problem. The new case was tooled with a thicker top and internal fins primarily for the Class A/B amps but it appeared first on the SAZ-3000D. The #1 reason for the new case was for the SAX-250.2, which isn't released yet - as I found it to run too hot with the original case when bridged when testing the prototype. 5) Oh yah... and John - did you ever think that people back me up because they want to ? Maybe they are happy with the products, my service, and how I treat them. No... impossible... everything is a conspiracy. How about you tell us who you really are and why you have such a problem with me ? In any event. You will never be satisfied with any response that is provided - it is obvious that you simply have a problem with me and that is your business. It is also obvious you have proved nothing at all. So that is all |
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Gold Member Username: JkidderWorlds gunna end, In 2012 Post Number: 4149 Registered: Nov-05 | id pay to see this fight |
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Gold Member Username: Basebalz13Moneta, Va Usa Post Number: 1586 Registered: Aug-07 | "I remember when the first run of 3000ds came out, along with the RD 3250.1 The RD could be picked up for around 500 bucks. The SA3000D for around 900... and people were saying that was a good deal! And sundown has the best prices and blah blah... " wanna know why? RD is a cheap knock off... http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e321/hunterw86/100_2619.jpg http://ampguts.realmofexcursion.com/American_Bass_VFL_500.1/inside1.jpg funny thing is tho, i still get american bass cheaper :D hehe |
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Gold Member Username: Tatonka-[Team Audible Insanity]- Post Number: 2989 Registered: Mar-07 | You do realize that all three companys amps are mostly zenon based, so technically all are a "knock off" |
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Bronze Member Username: Re_xxxGreen River, Wyoming U.S.A Post Number: 45 Registered: Apr-07 | DJ.... we all know that the V.1 heavyweights were APX.... Thats no secret.... BUT HERES ONE FOR YA! You do know the APXX with the 4" coil... is a SHW knockoff!!! The SHW was the first SJA production sub with a 4" coil of that magnitude. So it is safe to say "Likewise, Atomic is just knockoff RD Audio. I was even asked that when the APXX with the 4" coil comes out... to test it against my 4" SHW. Now the V.2s are different, and so will be the Neo SHW. |
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Bronze Member Username: Re_xxxGreen River, Wyoming U.S.A Post Number: 46 Registered: Apr-07 | And D-Money, is that a D9 from Hunter? And if you look at the center of the board and note the HUGE difference.... that will tell you all you need to know ;) |
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Bronze Member Username: Roman_noodlesBalling, Usa Usa Post Number: 57 Registered: May-09 | I never said you screwed anyone. I am just speaking on what has happen in this thread. So you are teling me you posted this link nowhere else? I know what you are doing, I am not stupid unlike most. |
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Gold Member Username: Basebalz13Moneta, Va Usa Post Number: 1589 Registered: Aug-07 | "And D-Money, is that a D9 from Hunter? And if you look at the center of the board and note the HUGE difference.... that will tell you all you need to know ;)" yes i know that, kinda stands out, but other than that what differences do you see? besides all the cheap short cuts like i dont know my ab is gold plated, yours isnt? and yes the i have less but bigger caps, you have alot more smaller caps now i dont know a whole lot about amps... but to my understanding it would talk more time to fill the mass quanity of your smaller caps compared to my few larger caps that equal out to the same total cap anyways, so couldnt that inreturn make ur amp less effiecent? someone correct me if im wrong please |
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Bronze Member Username: Re_xxxGreen River, Wyoming U.S.A Post Number: 48 Registered: Apr-07 | I do believe the D9s are platinum. And what I was told is that the smaller ones are more efficient and stable. This came up with the IA 40.1 and AB 500.1 being the same amp, which we all know they are. |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 6786 Registered: Nov-05 | whats the box volume btw? |
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Silver Member Username: TeamrevolutionATLANTA, GA USA Post Number: 648 Registered: May-07 | "DJ Bronze Member Username: Team_nemesisdj Wilmington NC Post Number: 15 Registered: Jun-09 Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 07:46 am: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I remember when the first run of 3000ds came out, along with the RD 3250.1 The RD could be picked up for around 500 bucks. The SA3000D for around 900... and people were saying that was a good deal! And sundown has the best prices and blah blah... Now.... if I remember correctly that whole run of amps had heatsink problems. LOL.... but yet they cost more?!?!?! You bought the name, not the product... and a lot... LOT of people paid for it in the end when jacob bent them over when he knew he was making $$$$$$ off of this "awesome" pricing. Because I know EXACTLY what that amp costs directly from the factory And to me that is not very good service. More of a "I know people nuthug my shiit, so my prices are more than fair, even though you can have a BETTER made amp with the same board for cheaper" Now I say again.... Anyone who wants to run a NightShade sub.... Just look at either the Death Penalty or NightShade on different days... whichever one you can get for cheaper buy it! There the same! Seth ,do you really want to go there ....We all know the RD story ....Why would i buy it when i can have the real thing ATOMIC...Hell even George will tell you that ....Call him he will not have a issue telling you ....And im not into talking down another product ...no matter how bad it was "pushed "down people throat ...And yes i put a end to that on several forums ...i have alot more that would really let alot of sh@t out into the open ,,,i could let out ...but why///Now onto having a heatsink issue ,now that pretty funny and a ingorant statemant ..funny thing is i ran 4 of the first batch of 3000ds...no issue what so ever ,i would still be running them today ,if i didnt step up in power .Honestly when i see you post posting .I always read for a good laugh ..I see you all over the internet bashing peoples product ...whats your point ,if you have so much knowledge<haha>start your own company ...then come back and talk to me " Not downing my company? Yeah you are so at least speak the truth. RD subs are proven, If my product is the same is atomic how does my HW out perform both the apx and apxx by a good bit? Dude every time someone talks sh-it about what they run it seems like they try to bring another company into to defect stuff. Please don't bring my name into this lovely thread. It has nothing to do with me. |
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Silver Member Username: TeamrevolutionATLANTA, GA USA Post Number: 649 Registered: May-07 | deflect - my spelling is off prob due to how sick i am and all the meds i am on. |
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Silver Member Username: TeamrevolutionATLANTA, GA USA Post Number: 650 Registered: May-07 | At times this forum is more like a gladiator school since there is not any mods to cut the rude people off and ban them. its one thing to say you don't like something but is another to call people out of their name. What's the point on this tread? Jacob said he did a number and whats the beef? let it be if you dislike him keep the drama over pm's nobody wants to read all the garbage sh-it talking. |
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Gold Member Username: Basebalz13Moneta, Va Usa Post Number: 1590 Registered: Aug-07 | 3 cubes |
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Silver Member Username: TeamrevolutionATLANTA, GA USA Post Number: 651 Registered: May-07 | D9 is the best amp and the most powerfull built off that platform. We use many better parts then anyone else. Say a amp costed 1000 to make as is from factory the d9 costs 1125 due to upgrades and changes made and our up grades and changes are between us and zenon. I dont know the testing of other amps but a few guys did 40.1's vs d9's . D9 is close to 1000w stronger @ 14.4 and close to 2,000 @ 16v. The changes alow it to go low in impedance. We have a guy with a .3 ohm load btweet 2 amps and he has no issues. That is .15 ea he doesnt burp it but can roll in all the time with no clipping. i have two dual .7 wired to .35 each them brought up to .7 between two amps, thats .35 each and this is daily. My 5750's go into protect within 10 secs on same load. |
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Silver Member Username: TeamrevolutionATLANTA, GA USA Post Number: 652 Registered: May-07 | oh 1 last thing LOL just because a cap or a transformer is a certain size doesnt make it the same. Not even close a couple of the d9 parts are out source and sent to zenon. |
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New member Username: Derrick824SC Post Number: 7 Registered: Jun-09 | Steve, I believe you'll notice that your boy Seth was the one that brought your company into this thread. You'll also notice that DJ didn't say one slandering remark about your products unlike your boy who wants to do nothing but talk out his @$$ spewing pure lies. So far everything I see coming from Seth has been a bold face lie. It's quite obvious you have no real experience with the products you're trying to bash & don't have any clue what you're talking about. What a freaking joke. And people wonder why RD has gotten a bad name. Cause of childish $hit like this. First Evan and now Seth. Who's gonna be the next RD fanboy? |
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Silver Member Username: TeamrevolutionATLANTA, GA USA Post Number: 653 Registered: May-07 | dude just because the biggest a-ss hole in the world owns a rolex and brags about it and talk sh-it about other watches makes rolex have a bad name? Come on man he doesnt work for me so don't make them one. another way to look at it is if a guy buy 10,000.oo worth of sundown stuff and then talks mad stuff on the forums and talks bad about every other company so then sundown has a bad name? I am not the puppet master i do not control the thoughts or actions of others, only my own. So whatever seth say or does in life is up to him. If he was quoting me or saying i said this or that id have a problem. But i do not have the time to troll the forums to see what this or that guy is saying. I would encourage you to do what i do, brush it off your shoulder. I used to get mad about forums and people talking stupid. Now i could give 2 shits. What can you do sit there all night and think of comebacks ? Id rather be in the club making it rain or chilling with the family or watching a movie. All are alot less stressfull do you agree? |
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Silver Member Username: TeamrevolutionATLANTA, GA USA Post Number: 654 Registered: May-07 | evan was a dealer so i took care of that. Part of the reason i do not have offical online reps or any online dealers. I do not want anyone on the forum saying the represent my word ever again |
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Bronze Member Username: Re_xxxGreen River, Wyoming U.S.A Post Number: 49 Registered: Apr-07 | Bold face lie? Wait wait.....if everything I said was a lie.... PLEASE by all means point them out.. I will be waiting patiently... |
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New member Username: Derrick824SC Post Number: 8 Registered: Jun-09 | I was just pointing out where the RD talk came from. It was an RD guy that brought that mess in here for no apparent reason. I see though he's even more of a joke than I originally thought. Also that last part of my post wasn't directed towards you. |
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New member Username: Derrick824SC Post Number: 9 Registered: Jun-09 | Dj already did that. Amps having heatsink problems and DPs and NightShades being the same sub?!? Just cause the motor looks similiar don't make them the same. You're worse than the guy that tried saying a NightShade was a rebadged MT. |
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Silver Member Username: TeamrevolutionATLANTA, GA USA Post Number: 655 Registered: May-07 | cool well now i am going back to my bed to shiver and sweat at the same time. Being sick is horrible |
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Bronze Member Username: Roman_noodlesBalling, Usa Usa Post Number: 58 Registered: May-09 | Cliff notes: Jacob comes in here once again to show product and leave. Doesn't stay to help anyone on forum. Jacob gets heat and emails nut huggers to come to rescue. 3 guys sign up on forum to argue because someone "disrespected the sundown family". Now another brand is brought into mix of being disrespected to take heat off sundown. Threads ends up like all sundown threads when someone doesn't like sundown. |
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Gold Member Username: Big_edge_headMilwaukee, WI Post Number: 3870 Registered: Mar-07 | Goddamn, any of you have any idea how hard it is to read through this sh!t when no one uses the \quote command or at least some fu<king quotations!  |
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Bronze Member Username: Re_xxxGreen River, Wyoming U.S.A Post Number: 50 Registered: Apr-07 | Ahhhhhhh... thats weird.... I could swear it says "So far everything I see coming from Seth has been a bold face lie" Side by side, the DP and NS look identical (minus the basket) And yes I have played, and didnt notice a difference between the two... They might have small softpart differences, but dont act like there different. |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 23345 Registered: Oct-05 | yes please use quotations. |
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New member Username: Derrick824SC Post Number: 10 Registered: Jun-09 | That's funny cause the only cliffs I'm getting from this post is There's a bunch of haters on ecoustics. |
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Bronze Member Username: Re_xxxGreen River, Wyoming U.S.A Post Number: 51 Registered: Apr-07 | "That's funny cause the only cliffs I'm getting from this post is There's a bunch of haters on ecoustics." I dont hate at all.... I just call bullshit where I see it. Kind of funny how when RD in the beginning was in a war with everyone about being Atomic and yadda yadda.... NOBODY cared if they got ragged on. But when sundown gets questioned its a war. And people are just haters. HYPOCRITS Sorry for sticking up and stating what I felt. I happen to like sundown, and a lot of companies. |
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Bronze Member Username: Roman_noodlesBalling, Usa Usa Post Number: 59 Registered: May-09 | If 2-3 people are a bunch of haters, I wonder what you would do if 5 people hated? No one asking you to stay either. |
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Platinum Member Username: Nyyfan13Northern VA Post Number: 11474 Registered: Jul-06 | "Jacob comes in here once again to show product and leave. Doesn't stay to help anyone on forum. " Let's look at this for a second. Jacob has 22 posts since '06 and probably 18 of them in the past week so that's not too fair to judge him on. Even if he did stay on here and help out more, everything he would post would be misconstrued by douchebags like yourself as self-promotion and biased. So why should he post? I'm glad we don't have people coming on here and promoting their own sh1t over and over again like in the past (no names/companies be mentioned). I'd rather have people who have no affiliation with any company coming on here and giving advice. Dealers and companies should post in threads regarding to their product and nothing more. And to be honest, we don't have too many threads on Sundown here (nothing against them, I'd love to run it). But seriously, this whole thread is retarded. Jacob started a thread that showed what his product is capable of and wanted to show off what number he pulled (impressive number at that). Don't we all do that? Get off his d1ck and let the man do his stuff. His company makes a sick product. If you don't like his product, don't focking buy it then. What's so hard about that? Don't like what the thread is about? Don't focking open and read it. Simple as that. This argument is pointless. |
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Bronze Member Username: Derrick824SC Post Number: 11 Registered: Jun-09 | Man nobody here said a thing about RD. You were the one that wanted to jump in here and start comparing RD stuff. RD > the world = FANBOY. Bashing products you have no experience with = HATER. Get some real world experience then come back to this conversation. |
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Bronze Member Username: Re_xxxGreen River, Wyoming U.S.A Post Number: 52 Registered: Apr-07 | "Man nobody here said a thing about RD. You were the one that wanted to jump in here and start comparing RD stuff. RD > the world = FANBOY. Bashing products you have no experience with = HATER. Get some real world experience then come back to this conversation." The only reason why i said RD, was some sundown FANBOY said he knows of people running the amps @ .5 ohm, and I just said that is irrelevant to the thread cause I know of RD users running at way lower impedances... and it started. Experience? I guess with over 40,000 dollars in subs over the past 5 years and over 15k power at my disposal means I have NOT a clue what im talking about.... Nor that I run a single sub with over 5k daily. Your right..... Not A CLUE.... Grow Up |
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Gold Member Username: Van_manBoston South, MA Post Number: 4870 Registered: Mar-06 | idk who any of theses ppl are... |
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Silver Member Username: CozceSt. Louis ILLside, Pronounced: ... U.S.A. Post Number: 750 Registered: Mar-08 | You guys all suck. |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1824 Registered: Apr-07 | Wow Re XXX, that's a lot of money to waste in 5 years. That would be a nice chunk of change towards your mortgage or kids college fund. Could you not find a setup you were happy with, or did you blow a lot of subs? If you haven't found something you're happy with may I suggest a nightshade? |
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Diamond Member Username: WingmanaliveWww.stainles... .ecrater.com Post Number: 20608 Registered: Jun-06 | X2!  X3! Quite frequently. For the most part. Can we please get on with life?  |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1825 Registered: Apr-07 | Oprah has the money to by 15,000 watts, does that mean she has experience or knowledge? Just making a point that money or what you have at your disposal doesn't give you credibility. Jacob: congrats, that's a great score. I need to go up there and get you to build me some enclosures I live in Myrtle Beach. Hell, come here next time we're grilling out if you like the beach. Maybe Derrick/Gary/DJ would want to make the trip out here again since I can't make it to any shows right now. Who can say no to steak on the grill? |
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Bronze Member Username: Re_xxxGreen River, Wyoming U.S.A Post Number: 53 Registered: Apr-07 | I have blown a few subs, and I just tested subs out to see what they did in different enclosures and what kind of beating they could take. I have liked a lot of subs. T3 TSNS SoundStream XXX RD Audio HW 05 RE XXX I even broke a DDZ...... I work in the oilfield as an engineer so money isnt a problem. I'm not the most knowledgeable... but when you buy enough stuff and play as much as I have... you have to know something. I dont know very many people putting 15.5 volts to a 5kw amp to a single sub in a daily setup that does a 150.4 and plays the lows ;) Took about 2 years of testing to get it where its at. And im not done, im probably gonna tear it out and try the new SS XXX's and the new Neo SHW. |
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Gold Member Username: HdubbTeam Revolution Post Number: 4148 Registered: Nov-04 | lol. fanboys..,,,the kettle calling the pot black |
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New member Username: NightshadeGreensboro, NC Post Number: 5 Registered: Jun-09 | "The only reason why i said RD, was some sundown FANBOY said he knows of people running the amps @ .5 ohm, and I just said that is irrelevant to the thread cause I know of RD users running at way lower impedances... and it started." I'm your so called fanboy d-bag. I made a true statement about the Sundown products that doesn't have a phucking thing to do with RD. Not to mention I didn't say I know someone doing something, I'm the one doing it unlike yourself who is referencing stuff other people have done. That's what makes you a hater/fanboy. You either have no experience with something so you hate, or you just think it's cool to be associated with a certain brand. You would probably buy Nike subs if they came out wouldn't you? Hell it sounds like the owner of RD thinks that your a tool and doesn't want what you say having anything to do with his product to begin with. You were quick to call us Sundown nuthuggers, but I think that you need to get the RD shaft out of your mouth for a minute and come back to reality. You call me a fanboy. A team Sundown member and NSPL WORLD RECORD HOLDER. I'm not saying I'm the greatest there ever was, is, or will be but I'm saying that my 2 Nightshade 15's off of 3400 watts is doing a 151.2 on the dash sealed in a box tuned to 37hz. That is exactly .7db louder than your 15 with 5000 watts. Give me 5000 watts and I'll show you a 154. So what I'm really trying to say is that you wasted 2 years of your life testing and your still not as loud as my daily driver box  I'm sick if retarded no name I learn everything I know on an audio forum phucks like yourself. I'm an actual professional car audio installer and have worked in the field for over 4 years until recently moving to North Carolina. You said yourself you work in an oil field. I wouldn't try and tell you sh!t about oil, just like you don't need to try and tell any of us sh!t about Sundown, a product you have no experience with. |
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Gold Member Username: Drant19DUB-C, TX Post Number: 1763 Registered: Aug-07 | RE_XXX: " I dont know very many people putting 15.5 volts to a 5kw amp to a single sub in a daily setup that does a 150.4 and plays the lows ;) " jacob got a 154.3 on a single 15" nightshade... as seen in the OP. maybe you should get look into sundown products im tired and cant believe i wasted so much time reading all this B.S. |
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Bronze Member Username: Derrick824SC Post Number: 12 Registered: Jun-09 | "Experience? I guess with over 40,000 dollars in subs over the past 5 years and over 15k power at my disposal means I have NOT a clue what im talking about...." "when you buy enough stuff and play as much as I have... you have to know something" ^^^ Totally clueless statements. That really made you look freaking dumb. Owning equipment doesn't make you smarter (obviously). And it's also obvious you don't have any clue about Sundown products which is what this entire thread is about. Why do you want to keep making it into an RD thing? THIS THREAD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU OR RD! "I dont know very many people putting 15.5 volts to a 5kw amp to a single sub in a daily setup that does a 150.4 and plays the lows ;)" Hahaha, none of us Sundown guys need to use that much power to get loud. Talk about inefficiency. 5k amp @ 15.5v so you're probably seeing around 7kwatts and only doing a 150.4?!? All I can do is shake my head. A couple guys say Sundown sucks. Whatever. Those guys are saying that without any experience with the product which makes them straight haters. Sundown Audio is still fairly new compared to the other large companies that have been doing this for a long time but Sundown is growing strong & fast. Sure it's not the most popular product and you're not seeing them wide spread YET but take notice cause we're setting records out here and will be coming for yours next. I guarantee you that anyone who competes regular in Meca, Nspl, and CompOnly know the name well. It's only a small matter of time before it gets big into the other orgs too. |
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Gold Member Username: JoebruceTC Sounds/DLS Post Number: 2582 Registered: May-04 | I hit 160 DBs with 4 Sony Xplod subs and 4 Sony amps! /thread |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 23346 Registered: Oct-05 | thanks for using quotations guys. |
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Bronze Member Username: SundownzMooresville, NC USA Post Number: 60 Registered: Nov-06 | First off, thank you Steve Miller for being a voice of reason in this thread. You said alot of stuff I was thinking... I don't make people post what they post, they have their own opinions... x2 to that. --- As for my single sub box volume it is really closer to 3.5 cubes or so and uses 96 in^2 of port area. I've helped several people build similar boxes if they just ask -- as this enclosure has done nearly the same numbers in three different vehicles. --- Lastly -- I already posted "So that is all" and I was serious. So no more e-arguing in this thread for me |
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Silver Member Username: WickedbassNashville, Tn Post Number: 653 Registered: Jan-08 | Okay guys seriously. QUOTES. Use them I know this forum doesn't have the neat and nifty little quote button like most others but here is how ya do it. \ quote {the stuff ya wanna quote} Remove spaces. Simple as that. Let's give it a whirl.
Okay, now that that has been taken care of.... Congrats Jacob on the great score. And... To certain members in this thread (you should know who you are) grow up, quit b!tching or STFU and GTFO!!! That is all. Have a nice day. |
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Gold Member Username: Basebalz13Moneta, Va Usa Post Number: 1592 Registered: Aug-07 |
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Platinum Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 11625 Registered: Jun-04 |
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Platinum Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 11626 Registered: Jun-04 | See I can do it haha. |
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Gold Member Username: Basebalz13Moneta, Va Usa Post Number: 1594 Registered: Aug-07 |
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Bronze Member Username: Derrick824SC Post Number: 13 Registered: Jun-09 |
Awesome. Am I now considered one of the cool guys? |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 23347 Registered: Oct-05 |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 23348 Registered: Oct-05 |
you sure are. |
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Gold Member Username: Basebalz13Moneta, Va Usa Post Number: 1596 Registered: Aug-07 |
No..... u fail |
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Platinum Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 11630 Registered: Jun-04 |
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Silver Member Username: WickedbassNashville, Tn Post Number: 654 Registered: Jan-08 |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 23350 Registered: Oct-05 |
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Silver Member Username: WickedbassNashville, Tn Post Number: 655 Registered: Jan-08 | ^Haha, agreed. |
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Gold Member Username: PitbullguyThe Chicago area Post Number: 3871 Registered: Oct-06 | Wicked laying down the law as usual.  |
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Bronze Member Username: Re_xxxGreen River, Wyoming U.S.A Post Number: 54 Registered: Apr-07 | "jacob got a 154.3 on a single 15" nightshade... as seen in the OP. maybe you should get look into sundown products" LOL........ 154 is a nice number...in a burp box... and with 10k Tune it below 36 with 5k and lets see that 154 with a single driver.......... And noneya.... two 15's vs one 15.... take one out and just have one and lets see what you do... I will even let you put 5k to that single NS, and lets play a 5 minute song, unless you dont think that NS could handle it? I never said I dont like Sundown products. I will be purchasing a NS and putting it in this install, I am always looking for a better woofer. I just hope it can get me the numbers I want, but also take the power I will give it daily for hours on end. |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 23351 Registered: Oct-05 | how much does the nightshades go for? also does sundown have some sensible drivers that have sick sq? all these controversies is making me want to try one. |
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Bronze Member Username: SundownzMooresville, NC USA Post Number: 63 Registered: Nov-06 | The Z15 is our best sounding sub out at the moment. |
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Gold Member Username: Big_edge_headMilwaukee, WI Post Number: 3871 Registered: Mar-07 | Buy one Chad! |
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Bronze Member Username: SundownzMooresville, NC USA Post Number: 64 Registered: Nov-06 | The Z15 has already been tested in the woofer round-up as well -- if you are interested in those results they are available. It has a sound much like the previous generation SI Mag v.3 driver. |
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Bronze Member Username: SundownzMooresville, NC USA Post Number: 65 Registered: Nov-06 | The Z15 has already been tested in the woofer round-up as well -- if you are interested in those results they are available. It has a sound much like the previous generation SI Mag v.3 driver. |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 23354 Registered: Oct-05 | only 15 though looking for a 10. btw do you do sponsorship jacob? now i'm not talking about no audio comp sponsorship but for car shows. i will be entering car shows like spocom, HIN, and few others in the future. it helps to have a sponsor. i would showcase one sub and amp in the trunk in a nice and clean install. then i would display the decal on the outside of the car. i'm not looking for free stuff. just helps to have a sponsorship when entering shows that's all. however a good price will help. also it won't hurt to advertise right? lol. http://www.spocomusa.com/v2_EVENT.html |
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Gold Member Username: Tatonka-[Team Audible Insanity]- Post Number: 2993 Registered: Mar-07 |
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Bronze Member Username: SundownzMooresville, NC USA Post Number: 66 Registered: Nov-06 | We have a few guys doing car shows on the Team. If you are interested you can use the contact form on our site to e-mail me. |
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Gold Member Username: Tatonka-[Team Audible Insanity]- Post Number: 2995 Registered: Mar-07 | Good score, Jacob. Sucks that this thread turned into one huge flame war |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 23355 Registered: Oct-05 |
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Silver Member Username: WickedbassNashville, Tn Post Number: 656 Registered: Jan-08 |
You know it man! All day every day!  |
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Platinum Member Username: Rovin1 15 = 149.5 DBs ...Trinidad & T... Post Number: 15090 Registered: Jul-05 | man i saw this thread doing 200 posts & what was wondering whats up only to see a bunch of bashing what a WOB .... |
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Gold Member Username: Basebalz13Moneta, Va Usa Post Number: 1598 Registered: Aug-07 | chad your not trying to compete with me for the best looking sundown car are you |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 23360 Registered: Oct-05 | don't worry. mine won't be just a sundown car cause i will have sponsor from other performance companies as well. |
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Gold Member Username: Basebalz13Moneta, Va Usa Post Number: 1601 Registered: Aug-07 | im kidding chad glad to have you back from that g@y "making your car faster" phase. FYI you can give a girl a org@sm by the viberations from your subwoofer but not how fast your car can go ;) |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 23361 Registered: Oct-05 | lol |
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Gold Member Username: Tatonka-[Team Audible Insanity]- Post Number: 2996 Registered: Mar-07 |
I usually just lay my car out when I want that effect  |
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Gold Member Username: Basebalz13Moneta, Va Usa Post Number: 1603 Registered: Aug-07 | i have a rocker switch that pumps the front up and lets the back out, then switch it the other way it lets the front out and pumps the back up so its like a see saw horse they like that at certain times ;) |
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Gold Member Username: Tatonka-[Team Audible Insanity]- Post Number: 2998 Registered: Mar-07 | I know this, David. Me and you have the same switchbox remember? lol |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 23362 Registered: Oct-05 | damn that looks sick dumped. sick nick. |
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Gold Member Username: Basebalz13Moneta, Va Usa Post Number: 1605 Registered: Aug-07 | oh we did? jeez i have a bad memory but ya how you like that switch tried it out with a girl on top yet? |
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Gold Member Username: Basebalz13Moneta, Va Usa Post Number: 1606 Registered: Aug-07 | btw, tucking stock xtreme 16's FTMFW  |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1827 Registered: Apr-07 | Or you could just try doing it right without mechanical help  |
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Gold Member Username: Tatonka-[Team Audible Insanity]- Post Number: 2999 Registered: Mar-07 |
There's no fun in the usual way. I like to mix it up a bit. |
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Gold Member Username: Basebalz13Moneta, Va Usa Post Number: 1611 Registered: Aug-07 | haha point said nick, its always fun with a little twist in it
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